Firestarter remix

[Busho]

anyone heard it??

go to www.scantraxx.com

then go to MP3

then go to SPECIAL

then click on the white vinyl sleeve an drag it over onto the lil turntable to listen to it

[Jay M]

is this the one with the uunderworld remix on the other side

[A-lusion]

it was 'released' as a bootleg on the Scantraxx pres Hardheadz party 15th may.
There are only 300 copies.. and then can't be bought in the stores, well.. not in all stores.
Firestarter rocks! The b-side is another born slippy remix

[piginabush]

I dont really like it, it doesnt do anything with the sample that hasnt been done before :roll:

[DJ SPUDIE]

Didnt like this

[Jutt]

Not too keen on this but I must say its a wicked site and I'll def be buying tunes from there :clap:

[ben miles]

ive got it liked it for a while now ive gone off it its an oldie.

[Paul Nisbet]

i honestly thought (and putting this is as constructivly as possible) that this was a bag of shite! :shock:

[Paul Nisbet]

btw, thats the kinda shite thats ****in hardstlye up imo. :cry:

[A-lusion]

when you hear it on a big room with 30000 it'll definately move your feet ;)

[Paul Nisbet]

It would only move my feet towards the face of the dj who played it im afraid.

Im gonna stand firm on this one, wat i said was harsh, but i honestly think that this funkin tune is doin hardstyle no good at all.

[Paul Nisbet]

30 peeps - 30,000 peeps?

Makes no odds, think the smaller room will probs ave the best crowd tbh. :shock:

[Andy__C]

I'm off the opinion that it would go down well on a decent system........ non hardstyle purists'l dig it ...good track to mix it up

[Paul Nisbet]

decent system? Why does it need to be on a decent system? Will it come with a label on it sayin "dont play unless u ave a decent system"

Its boring, plain, bland, unimaginative, cheesy, and just plain wrong?

Its so predictable its UNREAL, sounds like one of those awful floorfillas!!!


Jesus.

[Yoshimitsu]

decent system? Why does it need to be on a decent system? Will it come with a label on it sayin "dont play unless u ave a decent system"

Its boring, plain, bland, unimaginative, cheesy, and just plain wrong?

Its so predictable its UNREAL, sounds like one of those awful floorfillas!!!


Jesus.

i agree hear m8. it is shite :doh:

[Andy__C]

bu - this tune aside.......... don't u think a decent system make's tunes that u've heard compressed over realplayer with shit echoey weak bass and had dismissed as shite........then sound awesome??

happens with me........



as for this tune - diff strokes fer diff blokes I suppose........

[Yoshimitsu]

bu - this tune aside.......... don't u think a decent system make's tunes that u've heard compressed over realplayer with shit echoey weak bass and had dismissed as shite........then sound awesome??

happens with me........



as for this tune - diff strokes fer diff blokes I suppose........

yeh sometimes thats true. ive heard a tune on the net and thought PAH! :lol:

Then i hear it in a club and im like OMG :shock:

[Paul Nisbet]

decent system? Why does it need to be on a decent system? Will it come with a label on it sayin "dont play unless u ave a decent system"

Its boring, plain, bland, unimaginative, cheesy, and just plain wrong?

Its so predictable its UNREAL, sounds like one of those awful floorfillas!!!


Jesus.

i agree hear m8. it is shite :doh:

Totally mate, im not tryin to be a cock here, but this is just plain wrong. And call me a twat and fold me up sideways and post me to india. But this is wat imo, is wat is funkin up the hardstyle scene for me anyways.

Every scene which blows up, gets ripped apart by shite like this, ie trance/Ian van dahl - Hardcore - Dougal and force and style and all that ****in plop.

Get it to funk, rite away from here.

[Yoshimitsu]

innit this shouldve been relased on suntec :nono:

[Paul Nisbet]

innit this shouldve been relased on suntec :nono:

LMFAO, so spot on its unreal.


Do hardstyle a favour, and dont buy or support it.

:nono:

[Yoshimitsu]

innit this shouldve been relased on suntec :nono:

LMFAO, so spot on its unreal.


Do hardstyle a favour, and dont buy or support it.

:nono:

dont worry m8 i wont :lol:

[DJTrubass]

id play it if i wos given it for free

[Jay M]

the other side is even worse tbh :nono:

[A-lusion]

you can't argue against someones opinion, you'll like it or not.
But this remix is sounding so much better than the suntec releases lately, so to compare it with them?? nah, I think you can't.

But anywayz, it's NOT made to make profit out of it, since it's not really for sale.
So even if you reject buying it.. that wouldn't even be possible :)

[A-lusion]

and there is of course a difference in music made for the bigrooms, and the music for your homestereo set.
Maybe a track doesn't sound that great at home.. but great at a party. And maybe a track will have no effect on the audience in a club while it's great for listening pleasure right?

[Paul Nisbet]

Nah i disagree mate, this would go down well in my local cheese den.

Im debating with u, like the local elections. Why play this to 30,000 peeps when u can play some quality music that doesnt resort to a good old helping of cheddar? Surely playing music that is a little less commercially orientated to such a large crowd would be better?

Ofcourse its probs not gonna see release, its a bootleg. How would they afford the samples, and in my view, if this sells out. It will do the round again like the crud hard house version and repressed a million times.

This isnt any better than suntec imo.

[Yoshimitsu]

Nah i disagree mate, this would go down well in my local cheese den.

Im debating with u, like the local elections. Why play this to 30,000 peeps when u can play some quality music that doesnt resort to a good old helping of cheddar? Surely playing music that is a little less commercially orientated to such a large crowd would be better?

Ofcourse its probs not gonna see release, its a bootleg. How would they afford the samples, and in my view, if this sells out. It will do the round again like the crud hard house version and repressed a million times.

This isnt any better than suntec imo.

word :clap:

[Voorheez]

This tune is absolutely awful.

It's not even done well, plus it's been done a million times before. Get some originality, get some better production skills and stop releasing abominations like this.

[Busho]

i wish i never brought this up now :cry: :cry: :lol:

[A-lusion]

good old helping of cheddar
hehe, gotta learn some Englisch expressions I think.

anyway.
Of course you can say the track sucks and you don't like the fact that the sample is ripped from firestarter.
But my point of mentioning the 30000 people was to say it really gives a energy kick on the dancefloor. The overdriven guitars with the simple but catchy lead over it.
I didn't really meant that the track gets better when playing it in front of 30000 people in stead of less in a smaller room. You just like it or now.. I like it.

But to bring up the ripping in hardstyle.
In EVERY housemusic style music is ripped. The saifam releases of the past and present contain a lot of ripped samples aswell. Even complete 're-played' leads from tunes back in the 70s.
The latest suntec releases are influenced by other old and well known tunes aswell.

I think firestarter is some kind of holy track for you guys, since the production is in my opinion also technicaly better than releases on some other labels. In that case I totally understand it, because I also have that with certain tracks. (for instance born slippy, that's why I don't like the b-side of this bootleg)
But I never heared a remix of firestarter before, that's why it gives something extra to me.. and it's not because I know the ones who produced it.

[Voorheez]

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, everybody is - but we're discussing our opinions to form a conclusion on what we all generally think as a whole. So far, not many people are really for this track on here, but i'd be interested to hear from them if there is anyone else...

For me it's not just that the sample is ripped from Firestarter, you're right that a lot of dance music is based on some form of plagurism - but it has to be done well to succeed. It has to try something new with the material, and not just repeat what has already been done with a different bass - whcih is exactly what this track has done.

It's lazy and just stealing someone else's work to give yourself some acclaim to me. A lot of the Saifam tracks pay homage to tunes rather than just ripping them off. Alantic Wave - Reforced is how it should be done. More like a tribute to original track, and doing something else with it, rather than just chucking it over some tired bassline.

[Paul Nisbet]

Firestarter rmx is filled wi cliches... its pantenhosen.

Not fit to wipe my bottom. :rambo:

[Yoshimitsu]

Firestarter rmx is filled wi cliches... its pantenhosen.

Not fit to wipe my bottom. :rambo:

:lol: :lol:

[Andy__C]

**** u lot read too much into ur tune's sometimes ha ha!! :lol:

Can't we just agree to disagree on this un??


I personally quuite like it even though I really ain't fussy on a lot of hardstyle re-mixes of well known tune's...........don't think it goes down well.........I think prodigy's sound goes well with hardstyle - love mixin voodoo people in with hardstyle and cuttin the harsh hardstyle noises into it..... :rambo:

I think I'll like this un played the right way on a good system......... happens with some tune's........

my housemate's got a good ear for what sounds pants on ur pc but slam's on a decent set-up...... I;ve dissed him for buying some tune's, then when I hear him play em out am jealous I didn't pick them up (a couple of Sigma releases a few months ago spring to mind, can't remember the names right now)...........

we'll see how it goes innit!!

[Busho]

i just got a few new sigma 1's that sounded pretty pants on the net. but on ma system they sound wicked!! :clap:

[Yoshimitsu]

i just got a few new sigma 1's that sounded pretty pants on the net. but on ma system they sound wicked!! :clap:

recent sigma releases only sound good on a system coz of their trademark bassline. The actual tunes comin out are pretty average imo

[DJ Pearcey]

I havent heard this firstarter tune yet but I can just tell that its not gonna be for me,as it sounds like another cheesy hardstyle poopy pooper :doh:

[Yoshimitsu]

I havent heard this firstarter tune yet but I can just tell that its not gonna be for me,as it sounds like another cheesy hardstyle poopy pooper :doh:

it is m8 :doh:

[Voorheez]

Can't we just agree to disagree on this un??
This is a discussion board for discussing hardstyle on though. This is discussing what we think on this tune. If you read my post I actually asked people who like to come forward and put their case forward.

[Andy__C]

aye - I know it is.........


but saw it gettin a bit pointless:

"its wank"

"not it isn't"

"oh yes it is"

"oh no is isn't"


............so the seemingly obvious conclusin so far being that some people like it, lotsa people didn't.....neither was gonna change their mind...... so there was definalty a disagreement.......... and rather than carry on with some

"its wank"

"not it isn't"

"oh yes it is"

"oh no is isn't"

could just say some like it, some disagree....and agree on that point.... :doh:

[Busho]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

well said there Mr C :lol:

[Voorheez]

No, cos it's not as moronic as that.

We're actually making valid conversation about it, not just mindlessly saying it's wank and no it isn't. We're bringing up points for people of the opposite opinion to consider and judge, which again is a discussion, and we're on a discussion board.

This still can be discussed further I feel personally.

[Andy__C]

no it can't ;) :lol:

[Busho]

OI!!!
MY THREAD

MY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO FURTHER DISCUSSION!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Paul Nisbet]

No, cos it's not as moronic as that.

We're actually making valid conversation about it, not just mindlessly saying it's wank and no it isn't. We're bringing up points for people of the opposite opinion to consider and judge, which again is a discussion, and we're on a discussion board.

This still can be discussed further I feel personally.

:clap:

[Paul Nisbet]

Piss. :nono:

[Yoshimitsu]

Piss. :nono:

:lol:

[DJ SPUDIE]

I havent heard this firstarter tune yet but I can just tell that its not gonna be for me,as it sounds like another cheesy hardstyle poopy pooper :doh:


Innit thats why I aint bothered to listen to it!