So much shit...

[DJ Corbzy]

There's about 20 new releases on germantrance.com and about 15 of them are absolute WANK hardstyle.

Do you not feel disgusted that all this wank is raping the scene?

[Voorheez]

Not at all. I play whatever is good, and i'm not really bothered if the rest is shite, because it's not related to me in anyway.

[MARKEG]

no it really is annoying the amount of shit hardstyle about. i feel like i'm having to put up listening to so much crap just to find the good stuff. it's getting really labour intensive too. :cry:

[DJ Corbzy]

no it really is annoying the amount of shit hardstyle about. i feel like i'm having to put up listening to so much crap just to find the good stuff. it's getting really labour intensive too. :cry:

Yeah mate, I mean I don't mind GOOD hardstyle, but everything on there was absolute shite!!

Trying to find good stuff amonsgt the crap is getting harder all the time.

[ben miles]

no it really is annoying the amount of shit hardstyle about. i feel like i'm having to put up listening to so much crap just to find the good stuff. it's getting really labour intensive too. :cry:

Yeah mate, I mean I don't mind GOOD hardstyle, but everything on there was absolute shite!!

Trying to find good stuff amonsgt the crap is getting harder all the time.I totally agree sum of the stuff cumin out is absoluteley shite it takes a while to find a good track.

[Voorheez]

Personally I can judge if a track is shite within seconds, and I turn it off and listen to the next one.

[DJ Corbzy]

Personally I can judge if a track is shite within seconds, and I turn it off and listen to the next one.

Yeah that's it mate, I don't mind doing it on the occasion, but when it turns out that your doing that for almost every sample, you wonder whether to carry on!! :shock:

[Yoshimitsu]

i only buy tracks that get my attention within 30 seconds usually otherwise its medioce/shite :lol:

[Voorheez]

It goes on weeks for me sometimes. I've gone about a month before hearing something i've even remotely liked, but I still carry on. This was during the past 6 months, when I haven't played out much either so got away with not buying much. You have to stick with it through the rough times though.

The perseverence is paying off now because i'm buying quite a bit now, although not a lot of it could really be called hardstyle per se. I still listen to every release on Dance Pollution and Suntec even though they haven't released anything i've liked for months. They might one day surprise me.

Sure it was better a year ago when 9 releases out of 10 were brilliant, but you can't turn back time, and something new will come along soon.

[DjLiamB]

no it really is annoying the amount of shit hardstyle about. i feel like i'm having to put up listening to so much crap just to find the good stuff. it's getting really labour intensive too. :cry:

I know exactly what you mean. buyin tunes ends up being a chore rather than a pleasure

[lukekendall]

yeah mate ive stoped lissening to hardstyle really except the labels that you expect to be good and always have strong releases.


its sad tho, wish there was more good stuff about :cry:

[DJ Pearcey]

we knew this allready lads! loads of shit and the odd decent one, pa! old news! :eh: :neutral:

[Yoshimitsu]

we knew this allready lads! loads of shit and the odd decent one, pa! old news! :eh: :neutral:

anyone seen the new suntec!! "9pm till i come" :lol:

it was only a matter of time :doh: :nono:

[Tim Hidgem]

Too true lads.

Its the time it takes to find the good tunes thats getting up my nose!!!

I spent 2 days this week searching around for fresh sounds for a gig I've got on saturday.

2 ****in days!!!!

I only bought 12 tunes!!!

Got some real bangers though! ;)

[MARKEG]

yeah this is outrageous. i don't remember it EVER being as bad as this. release overload!!!! especially with hardstyle. sometimes i just cant believe i'm sitting listening to crap like this damn suntec thing in order to find something good. i mean, traulling through this cheese for a few hours a day on the net is eventually going to infect your mind somehow. surely? hmmm. i do wonder sometimes. i need to find a way of sorting this out and fast.

[Yoshimitsu]

yeah this is outrageous. i don't remember it EVER being as bad as this. release overload!!!! especially with hardstyle. sometimes i just cant believe i'm sitting listening to crap like this damn suntec thing in order to find something good. i mean, traulling through this cheese for a few hours a day on the net is eventually going to infect your mind somehow. surely? hmmm. i do wonder sometimes. i need to find a way of sorting this out and fast.

ive been listening to loads today and at least 95% were shite :shock:

[Voorheez]

I don't really know how you guys spend so long! I listen to every new hard trance and hardstyle release and it takes me about 10 mins a night unless I find something good

[Yoshimitsu]

I don't really know how you guys spend so long! I listen to every new hard trance and hardstyle release and it takes me about 10 mins a night unless I find something good

i dont look each day i do it less often 4 longer

[DJ Corbzy]

yeah this is outrageous. i don't remember it EVER being as bad as this. release overload!!!! especially with hardstyle. sometimes i just cant believe i'm sitting listening to crap like this damn suntec thing in order to find something good. i mean, traulling through this cheese for a few hours a day on the net is eventually going to infect your mind somehow. surely? hmmm. i do wonder sometimes. i need to find a way of sorting this out and fast.

Yeah we need a crap filter on germantrance.com, only good releases filter through! :lol:

[Voorheez]

I think they do filter it already, if you check out some of the stuff juno or the euro sites sell, you'll find much worse

[DJ Corbzy]

I think they do filter it already, if you check out some of the stuff juno or the euro sites sell, you'll find much worse

Well filter it again, just to be safe! :lol:

[Yoshimitsu]

I think they do filter it already, if you check out some of the stuff juno or the euro sites sell, you'll find much worse

Well filter it again, just to be safe! :lol:

there should be a personalised filter..

include cheesy dance tune rips.. yes/no

show suntec releases yes/no

etc. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

I think they do filter it already, if you check out some of the stuff juno or the euro sites sell, you'll find much worse

Well filter it again, just to be safe! :lol:

there should be a personalised filter..

include cheesy dance tune rips.. yes/no

show suntec releases yes/no

etc. :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's the one! :love: :lol:

[techno_smack]

You could well be onto something there!!

[Paul Nisbet]

Things are hard at the mo, tbh i really would mind seeing more of the ASYS, Future tribes stuff... kinda old style hard german trance but with elements of hardstyle also in it...

That would be class, imo there really doesnt seem to be anyone doing anythin good enough to right home about, sam punk was for a bit but now findin his stuff gettin a tad stale...

wats happenin.

The screetcy/scratchy synth is were its all goin wrong for me personally, is had the arse ripped out of it, and its been inspected by a 100 strong group of "high pitched squeel enthusiasts", put back together by that squad with a "super squidger 2000" to make it squeel 2000x Better.

Get rid of the squidge/squeel/screetch for me. :shock:

[techno_smack]

Yes what the F*ck is that screaching sqealing shit all about, how f*cked must u be to not think that sounds shite!

[lukekendall]

Yes what the F*ck is that screaching sqealing shit all about, how f*cked must u be to not think that sounds shite!

gives me a head ache afetr a while :doh:

[MARKEG]

Things are hard at the mo, tbh i really would mind seeing more of the ASYS, Future tribes stuff... kinda old style hard german trance but with elements of hardstyle also in it...

That would be class, imo there really doesnt seem to be anyone doing anythin good enough to right home about, sam punk was for a bit but now findin his stuff gettin a tad stale...

wats happenin.

The screetcy/scratchy synth is were its all goin wrong for me personally, is had the arse ripped out of it, and its been inspected by a 100 strong group of "high pitched squeel enthusiasts", put back together by that squad with a "super squidger 2000" to make it squeel 2000x Better.

Get rid of the squidge/squeel/screetch for me. :shock:


paul it's like you've written down everything in my head. i look for precisely the same thing in my music. sam punk i definitely rated massively but yeah, he seems to be doing that same formula shit that all producers eventaully fall into :(

when i hear that screech i really dont like it when i'm buying records. although when i hear it out (sometimes i'll play a hardstyle record for something other than the screech but it'll come in) you do see something in it's energy, but i fail to see how hardstyle can develop buy using this simple sound. it almost feels like hard house. in fact wasn't hard house based around one sound - the hoover oh, and an off beat bass?

[DJ Corbzy]

Things are hard at the mo, tbh i really would mind seeing more of the ASYS, Future tribes stuff... kinda old style hard german trance but with elements of hardstyle also in it...

That would be class, imo there really doesnt seem to be anyone doing anythin good enough to right home about, sam punk was for a bit but now findin his stuff gettin a tad stale...

wats happenin.

The screetcy/scratchy synth is were its all goin wrong for me personally, is had the arse ripped out of it, and its been inspected by a 100 strong group of "high pitched squeel enthusiasts", put back together by that squad with a "super squidger 2000" to make it squeel 2000x Better.

Get rid of the squidge/squeel/screetch for me. :shock:

Are these machines operated by Hardstyle Squeeling Squirrels?

[Voorheez]

I think even the hennes & cold bassline is a bit tired now. I tend to go for tunes that have something a bit more original

[DJ SPUDIE]

I think even the hennes & cold bassline is a bit tired now. I tend to go for tunes that have something a bit more original


Its still a class baseline no doubt ;)

[davemoore]

ah im lost :doh:

[DJ SPUDIE]

:lol:

[Yoshimitsu]

ah im lost :doh:

not suprised :doh: :lol:

[Paul Nisbet]

Things are hard at the mo, tbh i really would mind seeing more of the ASYS, Future tribes stuff... kinda old style hard german trance but with elements of hardstyle also in it...

That would be class, imo there really doesnt seem to be anyone doing anythin good enough to right home about, sam punk was for a bit but now findin his stuff gettin a tad stale...

wats happenin.

The screetcy/scratchy synth is were its all goin wrong for me personally, is had the arse ripped out of it, and its been inspected by a 100 strong group of "high pitched squeel enthusiasts", put back together by that squad with a "super squidger 2000" to make it squeel 2000x Better.

Get rid of the squidge/squeel/screetch for me. :shock:


paul it's like you've written down everything in my head. i look for precisely the same thing in my music. sam punk i definitely rated massively but yeah, he seems to be doing that same formula shit that all producers eventaully fall into :(

when i hear that screech i really dont like it when i'm buying records. although when i hear it out (sometimes i'll play a hardstyle record for something other than the screech but it'll come in) you do see something in it's energy, but i fail to see how hardstyle can develop buy using this simple sound. it almost feels like hard house. in fact wasn't hard house based around one sound - the hoover oh, and an off beat bass?

Dito man.

It has got to the point when peeps i know maybe give me a bit stick for being behind hardstyle, and really i have no annumition or comeback to what there sayin as deep down i know there right. Ie everytune has the screetch and old the basslines are the same. Really what can u say to that? That hurts me, as im well passionate about my music, but to see something im really into kinda go down the pan a bit, its sad.

Straight on for their black off shoot, deserve praise and support for having the balls to release what they have, the first 2 releases have been spot on and a welcome addition to my box. If i knew or had any contact with these guys i would have a 3 page email to them telling them how fantastic imo a job there doin.

Kinda said to myself at the turn of the year things hopefully would pick up, but they aint really.

Whats gonna happen? After goin on some foreign site and gettin my way thru there hardstyle section, i found 2 things. Millions of screetches and secondly wat could be a little more worryin for me anyhows. Was that more and more records carried a really cheesy or silly rap kinda vocal thing. Wats wi that?

Shame we are not seein kramer stuff, with a kinda hard german sound with a techy slant, along the lines off DSC 1.

Is the kinda thing Straight on doin the way forward? Havin an off shoot releasing that kinda dark german sound with hardstyle influence?

[Voorheez]

Yeah i've noticed the rap vocal thing. Definitely does not work...

Blame Mindcontroller for starting that whole thing!

[DJ Corbzy]

Techno is the way forward IMO....

I can see myself playing ALOT of it in the future...

[Paul Nisbet]

Techno is the way forward IMO....

I can see myself playing ALOT of it in the future...

Is it for u tho mate, ave u just started playin it cause hard trance is quiet it at the mo? If thats ur reason then ur gonna get bored wi tech and move onto summit else? If u stick with wats in ur heart, the sound will come good again. Full circle and all.

[Yoshimitsu]

Techno is the way forward IMO....

I can see myself playing ALOT of it in the future...

Is it for u tho mate, ave u just started playin it cause hard trance is quiet it at the mo? If thats ur reason then ur gonna get bored wi tech and move onto summit else? If u stick with wats in ur heart, the sound will come good again. Full circle and all.

well said. just coz hardstyles a bit stale @ the mo doesnt mean ill ever stop likeing it or playing it (i hope) :shock:

[DJ Corbzy]

Nah I mean Hard Trance in general, I'm getting a little bored of it TBH.

Getting well experimental and I can see myself making some changes in my style and that...

[Yoshimitsu]

Nah I mean Hard Trance in general, I'm getting a little bored of it TBH.

Getting well experimental and I can see myself making some changes in my style and that...

fair play i suppose. im in no way bored at the mo though

[Voorheez]

I don't personally like it when people pledge allegiance to a particular genre and then stick to it and only it no matter what. I nearly fell into it myself - you get known for a style you play, then you feel you have to stick with it even when it starts to stale. You can end up getting typecast, and the genre will bring you down with it.

Just play whatever you like and don't really worry too much about what it is exactly. Music changes very fast, so you need to move with it and go where your ears tell you.

Of course if you still love the genre as much as ever then stick with it. Unnecessary change just for fashion or appearance is perhaps an even worse scenario to fall in.

[Paul Nisbet]

Nah I mean Hard Trance in general, I'm getting a little bored of it TBH.

Getting well experimental and I can see myself making some changes in my style and that...

For sure mate, but are u gettin experimental for the right reasons, are u gettin pushed into summit again that u mite lose interest in?

[serox]

There's about 20 new releases on germantrance.com and about 15 of them are absolute WANK hardstyle.

Do you not feel disgusted that all this wank is raping the scene?

trance producers jumping on the hardstyle wagon? :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

There's about 20 new releases on germantrance.com and about 15 of them are absolute WANK hardstyle.

Do you not feel disgusted that all this wank is raping the scene?

trance producers jumping on the hardstyle wagon? :lol:

I don't get it?

[Yoshimitsu]

There's about 20 new releases on germantrance.com and about 15 of them are absolute WANK hardstyle.

Do you not feel disgusted that all this wank is raping the scene?

trance producers jumping on the hardstyle wagon? :lol:

I don't get it?

:lol: me neither :doh:

[skron]

finding good hardstyle now is akin to searching for a needle in a haystack...

:doh: