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Evil G
24-06-2004, 12:41 AM
should i be saving up for a sherman filterbank 2, or is there something less expensive that's still good? anyone tried the filters from vermona?

(i'm not really interested in plugins)

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 12:43 AM
yep, less expensive and very phat indeed is the akai mfc42

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 12:45 AM
sherman is top draw too though..

akai is amazing, sherman is even more amazing

Evil G
24-06-2004, 12:45 AM
thanks, i'll check it out.

mux
24-06-2004, 01:08 AM
The Electrix FilterFactory is apparently pretty decent. I have the FilterQueen, which is the younger sister to the Filterfactory - less knobs, no MIDI. Not as cool. With MIDI and sync'd LFOs, I think I would use this more. Sometimes you can find them cheaply.

Yes, they're analogue.

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 01:18 AM
its decent but not phat like the akai & sherman

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 01:20 AM
ive got the electrix eq killer.. cost me £60 but i would spend hundreds to get another.. amazing sounding box..

mux
24-06-2004, 01:34 AM
ive got the electrix eq killer.. cost me £60 but i would spend hundreds to get another.. amazing sounding box..

Word. Would trade my FilterQueen for a second EQKiller without thinking twice.

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 01:36 AM
a BIG TIME unsung hero the eq killer

MARKEG
24-06-2004, 02:08 AM
i bought the sherman second hand of the old chris mccormatron

and i have to say, it's definitely got it's own sound.

which is a good thing in my book amoungst all this computer plugin tomfoolery.

:)

herman
24-06-2004, 12:26 PM
The Mutronics Mutator is a bit of an animal but its only low pass and is a bit pricey now i belive.

Basil Rush
24-06-2004, 12:52 PM
I wish the sherman was stereo I can tell you that ... it'd get loads more use ...

mux
24-06-2004, 08:29 PM
Mmmm, Sherman Quad Modular Filter.

http://www.sherman.be/images/gal_qmf2.jpg

*droooooool*. Only 95 of these were made.

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 10:59 PM
oh my god look at that!

yeah the akai is good as its got independent stereo and mono filters..
they each have thier own inputs but the only trouble is they share a stereo output..

jesus
24-06-2004, 11:25 PM
there was one of those akai mfc42 down me local cash convertor the other week for £149. if only i had some money :roll:

Evil G
24-06-2004, 11:50 PM
the mutator looks interesting, but so far i'm still leaning towards the sherman. it will be a few months before i can buy any new kit anyway, so i might as well start saving for the one that makes the sound i want.

i guess in the meantime i can experiment using the nord modular. it's filters aren't the greatest sounding, but it does have envelope followers, and i want to try the thing where you modulate the cutoff frequency of one sound using an envelope follower on another.

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 11:53 PM
hahaha, nice avatar JC

Jimfish
24-06-2004, 11:54 PM
i want to try the thing where you modulate the cutoff frequency of one sound using an envelope follower on another.

woah! where does one start on that??.. i want a go!

Evil G
25-06-2004, 12:13 AM
i want to try the thing where you modulate the cutoff frequency of one sound using an envelope follower on another.

woah! where does one start on that??.. i want a go!

the idea being that one instr will "sing along" with another, adding glue to the track without adding mud (because the frequencies being emphasized by the moving filter *should* all be in tune).

there is a good example of this on the mutator site actually, but be warned, it's in real audio.

Jimfish
25-06-2004, 01:15 AM
yeah i know but any tips on how would you make it happen?

Evil G
25-06-2004, 01:18 AM
i'm about to give it a try. if i can come up with something that doesn't suck i'll post it.

Evil G
25-06-2004, 02:53 PM
well i put something pretty basic together in the nord modular, and ended up with hours of fun tweaking it. i'm on at 15% patch load so i have lots of room.

all i did was run a synth into the R audio in on the NM, and a drum track into the L audio in. the synth is then sent through a multi-mode filter and out the main outs. the drum track is fed to two envelope followers, one of which controls the cutoff of the synth's filter, the other controls the resonance.

i played a static loop on the synth, and as i faded a drum track in, the synth went crazy, just as hoped. still needs work, but this will definitely keep me entertained for a while. :)

wish i'd thought of this sooner...

sash
29-06-2004, 11:42 PM
i read on another forum the mfc 42 lacks character.

Jimfish
30-06-2004, 12:09 AM
ive had a lot of gear over the years and out of every peice of gear to come out in the last few years one thing that most definitly has character is the mfc..

sash
30-06-2004, 10:42 AM
ive had a lot of gear over the years and out of every peice of gear to come out in the last few years one thing that most definitly has character is the mfc..

Sweeeet cuz ive been lookin at gettin one but when i read the 'lack of character' thread it got my mind thinkin. Comments like yours put back the smile on me face :)

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