CALLY & JUICE - FROM SHIT TO SELLOUT

[DJ Corbzy]

FRANTIC EUPHORIA CD3 MIXED BY CALLY & JUICE

First they get signed to Nukleuz, now they're releasing a CD alongside Anne Savage for Frantic Euphoria.

How can 2 completely talentless DJ's get so much media attention? Oh well I suppose it is Nukleuz and that, nothing special.

What happens to all the good hard working people then?

[Paul Nisbet]

FRANTIC EUPHORIA CD3 MIXED BY CALLY & JUICE

First they get signed to Nukleuz, now they're releasing a CD alongside Anne Savage for Frantic Euphoria.

How can 2 completely talentless DJ's get so much media attention? Oh well I suppose it is Nukleuz and that, nothing special.

What happens to all the good hard working people then?

Mate, i was gonna comment on this, this is a ****in pile of shite. No matter wat anyone else says.... if u think this cd is good. Ur WRONG.

Just wasnt wantin to start the old cally and juice argument again. :nono:

[Busho]

im not even gonna start on this subject guys :nono:

[Tristan]

if u think this cd is good. Ur WRONG.

agreed

[Yoshimitsu]

im gonna pre-order my copy now!!!! :love:




















yeh rite :lol:

[Busho]

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[Hakka]

Is there even Hardstyle on this CD?

[Busho]

the press release for the cd ( only the cally n juice bit)



Over the last year Cally & Juice have been the brightest stars in uber Hard Dance. Their uncompromising style and unique approach to their sets has won them admirers across the globe. They have emerged from their stronghold in Wales to play at the majority of leading Hard Dance events in the UK. As well as this they have also been made residents for Frantic and have also been signed to the world renowned Nukleuz DJ agency which boasts DJs such as Lisa Pin-Up, BK, Rob Tissera, Andy Whitby and Caroline Banx. They have also just had a full release on Nukleuz Record’s Black label with their hardstyle monster ‘All You Bastards’ and are set to release their top secret new track in a couple of months. Keep tuned to www.nukleuz.com for more info! In London they have been booked to play at virtually every leading club nights including Convergence, Utopia, Frantic, Chemistry & the now legendary HardHouse Academy. The festivals are also not safe from the boys as they have torn up Escape into the Park in their native Swansea, Dance Academy in Portsmouth, Gods Kitchen, HardHouse Academy, Gatecrasher (NEC) & the world famous Creamfields. Currently Cally & Juice are also set to play at Impulz in Holland, Trinity in Helsinki and at Bionic’s 4th birthday. Watch out for this duo!



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[WEZ]

What happens to all the good hard working people then?[/quote]

oh the usual , they get brushed under the carpet of the cheese factory employees room !

[Tristan]

the press release for the cd ( only the cally n juice bit)



Over the last year Cally & Juice have been the brightest stars in uber Hard Dance. Their uncompromising style and unique approach to their sets has won them admirers across the globe. They have emerged from their stronghold in Wales to play at the majority of leading Hard Dance events in the UK. As well as this they have also been made residents for Frantic and have also been signed to the world renowned Nukleuz DJ agency which boasts DJs such as Lisa Pin-Up, BK, Rob Tissera, Andy Whitby and Caroline Banx. They have also just had a full release on Nukleuz Record’s Black label with their hardstyle monster ‘All You Bastards’ and are set to release their top secret new track in a couple of months. Keep tuned to www.nukleuz.com for more info! In London they have been booked to play at virtually every leading club nights including Convergence, Utopia, Frantic, Chemistry & the now legendary HardHouse Academy. The festivals are also not safe from the boys as they have torn up Escape into the Park in their native Swansea, Dance Academy in Portsmouth, Gods Kitchen, HardHouse Academy, Gatecrasher (NEC) & the world famous Creamfields. Currently Cally & Juice are also set to play at Impulz in Holland, Trinity in Helsinki and at Bionic’s 4th birthday. Watch out for this duo!



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Dont mean to be harsh mate but if you think Cally & Juice are good you must be pretty shit at mixing :neutral:

[Jutt]

I'm def not a fan

Ive been to Bionic a few times and the response they get there is amazing, they do have a following in the welsh scene :rambo:

[Yoshimitsu]

the press release for the cd ( only the cally n juice bit)



Over the last year Cally & Juice have been the brightest stars in uber Hard Dance. Their uncompromising style and unique approach to their sets has won them admirers across the globe. They have emerged from their stronghold in Wales to play at the majority of leading Hard Dance events in the UK. As well as this they have also been made residents for Frantic and have also been signed to the world renowned Nukleuz DJ agency which boasts DJs such as Lisa Pin-Up, BK, Rob Tissera, Andy Whitby and Caroline Banx. They have also just had a full release on Nukleuz Record’s Black label with their hardstyle monster ‘All You Bastards’ and are set to release their top secret new track in a couple of months. Keep tuned to www.nukleuz.com for more info! In London they have been booked to play at virtually every leading club nights including Convergence, Utopia, Frantic, Chemistry & the now legendary HardHouse Academy. The festivals are also not safe from the boys as they have torn up Escape into the Park in their native Swansea, Dance Academy in Portsmouth, Gods Kitchen, HardHouse Academy, Gatecrasher (NEC) & the world famous Creamfields. Currently Cally & Juice are also set to play at Impulz in Holland, Trinity in Helsinki and at Bionic’s 4th birthday. Watch out for this duo!



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Dont mean to be harsh mate but if you think Cally & Juice are good you must be pretty shit at mixing :neutral:

bit below the belt :lol:

[ben miles]

I'm def not a fan

Ive been to Bionic a few times and the response they get there is amazing, they do have a following in the welsh scene :rambo:They do have a massive following and theyve worked real hard for what theyve got. I dont see the point in arguing wether or not theyve made it cause they have and are starting to get some major bookings i.e Impulze,Faction, Godskitchen etc. As ive said before theyre great guys and are really passionate about what they do.

[hardstiler]

They do have a massive following and theyve worked real hard for what theyve got. I dont see the point in arguing wether or not theyve made it cause they have and are starting to get some major bookings i.e Impulze,Faction, Godskitchen etc. As ive said before theyre great guys and are really passionate about what they do.

innit! :clap:

theyre good at what THEY do, some people dont agree with it, but i doubt they care!

BTW im not a big fan of theirs either, but i do have respect for em as theyre obviously doing well, and having fun - which is what its all about at the end of the day! ;)

[lukekendall]

people must like cheese otherwice they would not be where they are :roll:

[Ashley]

They are shit, i listened to them from north :lol: :lol:

[Paul Nisbet]

people must like cheese otherwice they would not be where they are :roll:

lmfao, thats a statement.

Cheese is ****in pish, get it rite to funk.

[DJ Corbzy]

So the conclusion is that Cally & Juice are top of the cheese chain.

[Andy__C]

Aye - possibly.........

but as someone said earlier - people must like cheese then.......

can't see why they'd be on line-ups with Dana, technoboy, Trans Gens, Yoji, Tommy Pulse, Brennan and Heart, Clive King, Uberdruck & The Crow, Warmduscher, Blutonium Boy, Mark EG.....plus every big hard UK dj.......

or now get bookings at major Dutch (yup - home home hardstyle) events such as Impulz for the hardstyle arena;s to 60000 people the weekend before last........

[hardstiler]

Aye - possibly.........

but as someone said earlier - people must like cheese then.......

can't see why they'd be on line-ups with Dana, technoboy, Trans Gens, Yoji, Tommy Pulse, Brennan and Heart, Clive King, Uberdruck & The Crow, Warmduscher, Blutonium Boy, Mark EG.....plus every big hard UK dj.......

or now get bookings at major Dutch (yup - home home hardstyle) events such as Impulz for the hardstyle arena;s to 60000 people the weekend before last........

EXACTLY!!!!

their style may not be too popular here were there isnt much of a hardstyle scene but they are nailing it in holland!

[Andy__C]

innit.............plus I am suspect of what some people here (though not the majority) class as underground, and just who exactly is 'allowed' to be underground, what is played at 'underground' parties.......

[Ashley]

http://www.diverse-collective.co.uk/html/emoticons/Cheese.gif

[Paul Nisbet]

innit.............plus I am suspect of what some people here (though not the majority) class as underground, and just who exactly is 'allowed' to be underground, what is played at 'underground' parties.......

eh? All u have to do is check there Euphoria mix track listings, any man and his dog could tell u that is shite (imo, im right, deal with it!!!! lol)

I class them as playin shite, i couldnt care if it was underground or overground, over a bridge, over the ground 1st class with British Airways.

Its ****in turd. :evil:

[Busho]

Dont mean to be harsh mate but if you think Cally & Juice are good you must be pretty shit at mixing :neutral:



so im shit at mixing because i like cally an juice????


HOW THE FCUK DOES THAT WORK OUT
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


So does that mean People that like MZone arent so good at mixing either??
NO i dont think so :nono:

[piginabush]

Dance Academy in Portsmouth.....

shit, looks like my taxi fare home has just gone up a bit :shock:

[techno_smack]

total shite!! nuff said

[techno_smack]

there is no dance academy in portsmouth?

[ben miles]

I dont see the point in arguing over weather Juice And Cally are good or not cause at the end of the day theyve done very well for themselves. Also a lot of people think theyre CD is wank i personally think its a good CD when u take into consideration that they could not get clearance on most of the tunes, they have to go by Euphorias standards if u see them out its a totally different ball game especially when they play tunes like Ultrasonic - Jam 2 Jam and Dj Zany - Sky High but thats only my opinion.

[Louk]

whereas a few months ago i would gladly comment on forums like this about arguements over which dj is better etc i cant be ****ed anymore to be fair because at the end of the day its the same few who are arguing back and forth and its only one persons opinion! doesn't make a differnece, even if you reckon they are shit, what is posting on here going to achieve appart from to cause a heated debate ??

sorry these are just my thoughts, im happy to post positive things about tunes but not say things are ****ing shit etc anymore not worth it.

Louk

[Soundfixation]

haha i love this message board... simple fact i used to say this to many people in Portsmouth (Plymouth :lol: ) and they used to say 2 me i dont know what im on about... glad some other people agree with me..

[Paul Nisbet]

I dont see the point in arguing over weather Juice And Cally are good or not cause at the end of the day theyve done very well for themselves. Also a lot of people think theyre CD is wank i personally think its a good CD when u take into consideration that they could not get clearance on most of the tunes, they have to go by Euphorias standards if u see them out its a totally different ball game especially when they play tunes like Ultrasonic - Jam 2 Jam and Dj Zany - Sky High but thats only my opinion.

cmon mate, theres so much cack on it, that it makes little odds on wether they got 2 good tunes on it anyhoo?

Couldnt get clearance? Would u do a mix that u could only get clearance on second rate or even shite tunes. Its clearly aimed at a commercial market, so let them take shit from peeps like me who are musical snobs. :lol:

[techno_smack]

hahaha meh :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

I dont see the point in arguing over weather Juice And Cally are good or not cause at the end of the day theyve done very well for themselves. Also a lot of people think theyre CD is wank i personally think its a good CD when u take into consideration that they could not get clearance on most of the tunes, they have to go by Euphorias standards if u see them out its a totally different ball game especially when they play tunes like Ultrasonic - Jam 2 Jam and Dj Zany - Sky High but thats only my opinion.

Yeah this is a forum, I wouldn't bring this up in everyday conversation.

Like Paul said, there are people like us that have something to say when they think someone are shit, just like when something is good.

At least I finished the original post with a question for people to follow on from rather than just slating them for the fun of it.

It's not an personal attack just a point of view from someone who loves what they do and has a lot to say about it.

@Louk: You miserable cunt. :lol:

[ADDI]

im not getting involved in their this and their that arguement but tbh if ppl can't handle critisism they SHOULDNT WORK IN A PPL ORIENTATED SECTOR... everyone is entitled to their own views even though you dont agree with them!!!!!
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[Paul Nisbet]

im not getting involved in their this and their that arguement but tbh if ppl can't handle critisism they SHOULDNT WORK IN A PPL ORIENTATED SECTOR... everyone is entitled to their own views even though you dont agree with them!!!!!
:eh:

totally man, they ave made it quite far, and fair play to them.

But i always see peeps who make it that far and play wat i class as cheese, that its just a total waste to really go for it and try and push the music, m-zone and mark eg can do it, but i see the cheese as an easy way or a safe bet.

[Addict]

I think I'll listen to it before I comment on it
I really think Cally and Juice get slated far too much on this forum though (i've even done it), what good does it do really?

[DJRazza]

FRANTIC EUPHORIA CD3 MIXED BY CALLY & JUICE

First they get signed to Nukleuz, now they're releasing a CD alongside Anne Savage for Frantic Euphoria.

How can 2 completely talentless DJ's get so much media attention? Oh well I suppose it is Nukleuz and that, nothing special.

What happens to all the good hard working people then?

Mate, i was gonna comment on this, this is a **** pile of shite. No matter wat anyone else says.... if u think this cd is good. Ur WRONG.

Just wasnt wantin to start the old cally and juice argument again. :nono:


****in this again corbzy well said paul

[hardstiler]

I really think Cally and Juice get slated far too much on this forum though (i've even done it), what good does it do really?

its not just cally n juice that get slated too much, its hardstyle in general. why does everyone have to be moaning about how crap everything is all the time?! i love hardstyle, and if i hear tunes that are'nt all that good, ill ignore it rather than go on a forum and tell the world how sh!t i think it is!!!!!! :nono: :dontevengothere: now what is the point in that i ask you?!

[Busho]

if i hear tunes that are'nt all that good, ill ignore it rather than go on a forum and tell the world how sh!t i think it is!!!!!! :nono: :dontevengothere: now what is the point in that i ask you?!



i suppose its a good way to warn others about the crap thats floating around



(i was gonna add more to my point but i cant think of anything to say :lol: )

[Paul Nisbet]

I really think Cally and Juice get slated far too much on this forum though (i've even done it), what good does it do really?

its not just cally n juice that get slated too much, its hardstyle in general. why does everyone have to be moaning about how crap everything is all the time?! i love hardstyle, and if i hear tunes that are'nt all that good, ill ignore it rather than go on a forum and tell the world how sh!t i think it is!!!!!! :nono: :dontevengothere: now what is the point in that i ask you?!

Hardstyle in general gets a slating cause its stale as funk the now, not much else u can say to that? How many reasons can u give me to say otherwise?

Credit where credits due, but its not due here, i dont moaning about does any harm. Its being realistic... i used to buy shed loads of hardstyle, but im really struggling at the mo.

On the note of the euphoria cd, cmon man. Its pantyhosen, a pair of pantyhosen, from a 38 stone german granny with big hairy legs.

They had an oppertunity to show everyone wat hardstyles about, and instead they have done a hardstyle equivelant of "Hardstyle anthems, in yer living room 2034"!!!

[Jay M]

If people dont like something then dont listen to it or them, just listen to what you like and post about them.
too much negativite and not enuff positve aint good.


some ppl just sound like old moaning fishwives on this board lately

[Paul Nisbet]

I really think Cally and Juice get slated far too much on this forum though (i've even done it), what good does it do really?

its not just cally n juice that get slated too much, its hardstyle in general. why does everyone have to be moaning about how crap everything is all the time?! i love hardstyle, and if i hear tunes that are'nt all that good, ill ignore it rather than go on a forum and tell the world how sh!t i think it is!!!!!! :nono: :dontevengothere: now what is the point in that i ask you?!

Hardstyle in general gets a slating cause its stale as funk the now, not much else u can say to that? How many reasons can u give me to say otherwise?

Credit where credits due, but its not due here, i dont mind moaning about it, doesnt do any harm. Its being realistic... i used to buy shed loads of hardstyle, but im really struggling at the mo.

You gotta be positive, thats a 100% true, but wat is there to be positive about? Not a lot mate.

On the note of the euphoria cd, cmon man. Its pantyhosen, a pair of pantyhosen, from a 38 stone german granny with big hairy legs.

They had an oppertunity to show everyone wat hardstyles about, and instead they have done a hardstyle equivelant of "Hardstyle anthems, in yer living room 2034"!!!

[ADDI]

some ppl just sound like old moaning fishwives on this board lately:clap:

How much fish have you filleted today lads & ladies???

[Paul Nisbet]

If people dont like something then dont listen to it or them, just listen to what you like and post about them.
too much negativite and not enuff positve aint good.


some ppl just sound like old moaning fishwives on this board lately

Thats true, and a point. But wat good is it sayin nothing when someone is ripping the arse out of the sound u love?

[hardstiler]

But wat good is it sayin nothing when someone is ripping the arse out of the sound u love?

youre right, there is an obvious amount of producers out there who are 'below standard', but i still dont see the point in topics that are pages long about how sh!t one track, or two dj's are?!?!

how many posts on this forum are dedicated to cally and juice? i bet the amount outweighs the praise for other areas of hardstyle by a mile..

lots of negativity here, and seeing as its probably the biggest hardstyle forum in the UK, what hope do we have if a promoter comes on here to check out 'the buzz' and sees that the majority of views expressed are ones of 'how sh!te hardstyle is'.

its not just the bad producers that are killing the scene...

[Chazbloke]

i've looked at the tracklisting of the CD and it's total rubbish!
if they couldnt get clearance for some better tunes then they shouldnt have put the CD out ffs!
it's one of the first major UK commercial CD releases to have hardstyle on and it's kak!
my critisim of Cally and Juice is they have put their name to this cheese! they have choosen the glory of being on a Euphoria CD over the music....imo!

[ADDI]

But wat good is it sayin nothing when someone is ripping the arse out of the sound u love?

youre right, there is an obvious amount of producers out there who are 'below standard', but i still dont see the point in topics that are pages long about how sh!t one track, or two dj's are?!?!

how many posts on this forum are dedicated to cally and juice? i bet the amount outweighs the praise for other areas of hardstyle by a mile..

lots of negativity here, and seeing as its probably the biggest hardstyle forum in the UK, what hope do we have if a promoter comes on here to check out 'the buzz' and sees that the majority of views expressed are ones of 'how sh!te hardstyle is'.

its not just the bad producers that are killing the scene...

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: well said

[Paul Nisbet]

i've looked at the tracklisting of the CD and it's total rubbish!
if they couldnt get clearance for some better tunes then they shouldnt have put the CD out ffs!
it's one of the first major UK commercial CD releases to have hardstyle on and it's kak!
my critisim of Cally and Juice is they have put their name to this cheese! they have choosen the glory of being on a Euphoria CD over the music....imo!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: well said!

:shock:

[Paul Nisbet]

On the note of negativity, ur 100% spot on.

But i will say this, in my eyes it aint negativity, its critism for wat in my eyes is a piss poor attempt at puttin hardstyle out onto a cd comp market.

Negativity is rubbish, im guilty of it sometimes, but i can only see the cd in perticular as a pile of shite. Anyone with half a clue on hardstyle, and passion for it at all... would agree.

If things dont get said, things continue as they are.

[Louk]

On the note of negativity, ur 100% spot on.

But i will say this, in my eyes it aint negativity, its critism for wat in my eyes is a piss poor attempt at puttin hardstyle out onto a cd comp market.

Negativity is rubbish, im guilty of it sometimes, but i can only see the cd in perticular as a pile of shite. Anyone with half a clue on hardstyle, and passion for it at all... would agree.

If things dont get said, things continue as they are.

Haha that's contradictory as **** :lol: it's just an opinion mate, don't feel like i'm having a dig but it's just your opinion and it's not positive so therefore it's negative...words like Piss Poor and Pile Of Shite aren't the most of positive ways of conveying a message that you don't like it - fair enouhg you may not like it but the above sounds well negative to me and I'm sure others agree :)

Louk

[Paul Nisbet]

On the note of negativity, ur 100% spot on.

But i will say this, in my eyes it aint negativity, its critism for wat in my eyes is a piss poor attempt at puttin hardstyle out onto a cd comp market.

Negativity is rubbish, im guilty of it sometimes, but i can only see the cd in perticular as a pile of shite. Anyone with half a clue on hardstyle, and passion for it at all... would agree.

If things dont get said, things continue as they are.

Haha that's contradictory as **** :lol: it's just an opinion mate, don't feel like i'm having a dig but it's just your opinion and it's not positive so therefore it's negative...words like Piss Poor and Pile Of Shite aren't the most of positive ways of conveying a message that you don't like it - fair enouhg you may not like it but the above sounds well negative to me and I'm sure others agree :)

Louk

I agree reading back, ur spot on.

Hands up, im being negative. I dont find anything positive in wat they do. There is too much anger and resentment in me towards mainly the cd, nothin positive gonna come out on this subject. Sorry guys.

Hence my last post on this subject, cant help it.... the cd genuinely pissed me off.

[DJ Corbzy]

Yeah, when I post about this kind of thing it isn't a personal attack on the DJ's as people, I post it because I care about the scene etc, I don't post it to be negative, so OK I used some negative comments during my slating but then doesn't everyone, it's the same as if you are positive about something, you use positive sayings to back up your claim.

At the end of the day, this is a discussion forum, and not every topic can be a positive one as yes, there are people out there which are doing things in a way that people like me and paul don't agree with, so we post about it, and to touch on the bringing up Cally & Juice again is because they consistenly offend against the morals of putting our sound to other people, IMO they've done it all wrong, if they had released the CD with quality releases in the hardstyle perspective, I wouldn't have a problem, and if they use the excuse that Frantic wouldn't accept some of the tunes then they were happy just to mix cheese for the purpose of doing the cd.

It's like saying Mark EG record us a techno mix for Frantic Euphoria, we won't clear any of your tracks so we want you to mix our techno, the latest eric morillo tracks....

IMO the CD wasn't recorded to put they're sound out to people it was recorded because they had the opportunity to grab exposure, which i sfair enough, but what comes with this is trainspotters like myself giving them a bad name on forum, because, well it's my right.

Anything anyone disagrees with there?

[Andy__C]

But wat good is it sayin nothing when someone is ripping the arse out of the sound u love?

lots of negativity here, and seeing as its probably the biggest hardstyle forum in the UK, what hope do we have if a promoter comes on here to check out 'the buzz' and sees that the majority of views expressed are ones of 'how sh!te hardstyle is'.

its not just the bad producers that are killing the scene...


feckin well said!!!


I hate the way u pop on here every day and there's 10 posts just stating how bad a track is, or how bad a dj is..........

and it's been this way for months on here.........


I've said it before - if u don't like it a track - JUST IGNORE IT!!!

all genre's have umpteen bad releases.........most get ignored, but it seems like loadsa people's fav past time on here is to whine about the state of hardstyle.........every day....

"this track is shite and ruining the genre"
"this noise is overused"
"this dj's wank"
"this bassline is unorigianal"

I'm afraid this is it ladie's and gents - the start of hardstyle in this country was immense 2002 onwards, true, for a while now all releases haven't been as high quality.........if u don't like it - get into a new genre, cos loadsa people I know love whats going on now........

just cos its not as easy as it was........ or everyone here is trying too hard to look for the 'next big thing' taking it all faaaaaaaar to seriously, and forgetting to enjoy whats actually about now..........

In the place where all hardstylecomes from - it's larger than ever, so the people there dig whats going on, in might not suit us in a diff country........ but I don;'t think they really give a shit over there as its doing soooo well.


Maybe intead of bitching it's time to leave it alone and go try another genre......... cos can it really be satisfying listening to stuff u don't like all the time? - I wouldn't have thought so.........

and maybe just leave hardstyle to those that enjoy it.........

I'm not fussy on techno, can't see myself going on the techno forum and whining about tracks........ if u ain't liking hardstyle, then just leave it and go do something else......... not spoil it for those that do

[Ashley]

U lot still moaning :roll: :lol:

[Andy__C]

aye








u moaning about the moaning? :lol:









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[Dj Sanders]

Very interesting :)

But I got some words to say.. That a another artist passed down (Africa Islam)

He is a one of biggest rap/hip hop artists, worked with ICE T on body count and numours bands... He plays techno, Hardstyle, Hardtrance..

His set was all Hardstyle. And he wares bling bling..

Where is this story going your saying, simple..

Music is Music, as a DJ/Artist you have to respect the MUSIC.. We are not in competion, every one has there own views n goals in making it.. Just some a lucky enough to get that break quicker than others..

Now seeing a massive hip hop king from the zulu nation play out the UK/HOLEND hardstyle was out of this world.. There is no need to be elite to any style just respect what the that person doing and know that all music is the same (Come from same instruments only just arranged differn't) and comes from the heart..

cheers..

[lulu]

Very interesting :)

But I got some words to say.. That a another artist passed down (Africa Islam)

He is a one of biggest rap/hip hop artists, worked with ICE T on body count and numours bands... He plays techno, Hardstyle, Hardtrance..

His set was all Hardstyle. And he wares bling bling..

Where is this story going your saying, simple..

Music is Music, as a DJ/Artist you have to respect the MUSIC.. We are not in competion, every one has there own views n goals in making it.. Just some a lucky enough to get that break quicker than others..

Now seeing a massive hip hop king from the zulu nation play out the UK/HOLEND hardstyle was out of this world.. There is no need to be elite to any style just respect what the that person doing and know that all music is the same (Come from same instruments only just arranged differn't) and comes from the heart..

cheers..

:clap: :clap:

[Yoshimitsu]

trainspotters like myself giving them a bad name on forum, because, well it's my right.

?

fair play to that :clap: :lol:

[Chazbloke]

Very interesting :)

But I got some words to say.. That a another artist passed down (Africa Islam)

He is a one of biggest rap/hip hop artists, worked with ICE T on body count and numours bands... He plays techno, Hardstyle, Hardtrance..

His set was all Hardstyle. And he wares bling bling..

Where is this story going your saying, simple..

Music is Music, as a DJ/Artist you have to respect the MUSIC.. We are not in competion, every one has there own views n goals in making it.. Just some a lucky enough to get that break quicker than others..

Now seeing a massive hip hop king from the zulu nation play out the UK/HOLEND hardstyle was out of this world.. There is no need to be elite to any style just respect what the that person doing and know that all music is the same (Come from same instruments only just arranged differn't) and comes from the heart..

cheers..
hmmm, that's all well and good, but bet your man dont play:
Tweetwoof - Kernkraft 400 (Schwarzende Remix)
LeBrisc - I’ve Got (The Power) (Thomas Trouble Hardstyle Remix)
DJ Destiny vs Organ Donors - What's Up (Organ Donors Hardstyle Instrumental)
Boogie Pimps - Somebody To Love (Salt Shaker Remix Cally & Juice Bootleg Mix)
Dee Mark - 7 Days & 1 Week (Tom-X Remix)
does he now!
and i bet if does you would be having words!
please understand that this CD is one of the first (if not the first) major UK commercially aimed CDs with hardstyle on they choose to represent the sound with a cheese fest!
CUNTS I SAY, CUNTS!
waste of an opertunity!

[Chazbloke]

OK, maybe i'm being a bit to hard on the cheesters....
if that's what they wanna be known for, fair play to them - go play ya Frantic and belt our such "classics" as "What's Up" to ya sing-a-long beer boys...
i thought C & J placed themselves as credible artists pushing the boundries of hardstyle/hard trance/hard dance and underground music......dont think this release can be judged as pushing any bounderies or being even slightly credible to the real lovers of the scene and music.

[Andy__C]

Hang on now?? - I didn't see this CD as being labelled as hardstyle anywhere..................


and if u actually hear of the guys that mixed this they'll tell ya it never was meant to be a hardstyle CD representing whats in hardstyle at the moment..........


they were approached to to a bootleg CD...........

or off Juice himself.............


"You've also got to understand that it's called a "Bootleg" Mix so we could only play tunes that were cover versions or bootlegs. This means that some of the tunes are up to 2 years old"




Perhaps a few of you have missed the point of this CD????



and just aaaaaaaaaaaall to quick to start negative vibe's concerning the UK hardstyle scene again?

[Dj Sanders]

Infact, Islam played alot of cheese Hardtrance/Hardstyle, he kept it HARD as and differn't but.. His message is doesn't matter what it is... Love The Music.

As for commercial CD's we have heaps of that cheesy stuff on CD..

I feel its a good decision to do this, as it helps grow the scene.. We are not so much underground any more, its very simple these days to get into producing (It makes it more commercial n mainstream) Though helps grow the dance market.. You don't want it dyeing.

As much as you think the CD is cheesy (I haven't heard it) Think of it as way how it gets accrossed to the younger crowd who want to get in this industry and keep growing the industry as the years progress..

And its realy good how UK artists are supporting there country in todays HUGE events like IMPULZE ect...

[Chazbloke]

ah, so i did miss a minor bit of information and it has only just clicked...der :oops: (no really, it only just has!)
i just thought the other tracks were lame.
did wonder what Boogie Pimps was doing in there.....
i now feel very dumb & boy have a i made myself look stoopid!
but still, if i were me mixing the CD, i would have said no, cos the tracks suck imo. I still think C & J 's motivation behind the CD is self promotion, i wouldnt have thought Mark or Mick would have mixed such shocking material.

[Chazbloke]

ahh and now the penny has just droped on the sample clearance stuff too.....
im going home.....:oops:
should stop the drugs aswell, i never used to be this thick!

OK, so i got wrong end of stick.......

but i never slated the UK hardstyle scene at any point! i was hoping to defend the fuker cos its so rubbish at the moment and the likes of Cally and Juice making this CD only added to my concern that hardstyle was/is going down hill - the hardstyle based tracks on the CD are not the best and ones we have slated in the past for being cheesey and not the kind of thing we want representing hardstyle....

[Jay M]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/attention/ohdramaimage.jpg

[Hakka]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/attention/ohdramaimage.jpg

hahahaha....

[Jay M]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10059/jeez.jpg

[ADDI]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10059/jeez.jpg :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: LMFAO

[skron]

:doh:

[ben miles]

Infact, Islam played alot of cheese Hardtrance/Hardstyle, he kept it HARD as and differn't but.. His message is doesn't matter what it is... Love The Music.

As for commercial CD's we have heaps of that cheesy stuff on CD..

I feel its a good decision to do this, as it helps grow the scene.. We are not so much underground any more, its very simple these days to get into producing (It makes it more commercial n mainstream) Though helps grow the dance market.. You don't want it dyeing.

As much as you think the CD is cheesy (I haven't heard it) Think of it as way how it gets accrossed to the younger crowd who want to get in this industry and keep growing the industry as the years progress..

And its realy good how UK artists are supporting there country in todays HUGE events like IMPULZE ect...Very well said m8, i cant believe people r still goin on about this its rediculous. I agree with what ur saying this CDs main sale of purpous is on shelves such as HMV and Woolworths
and not in local underground shops. I know these guys and these two have a real love for the music, whats done is done theres no point in carryin on this useless discussion because it isnt gettin any of us anywhere.

[rapture]

Was this CD made last minute as it wasn't mentioned on the TV adverts and I thought that a bonus CD would be a massive selling point??

[~cheeky~]

bloody hell what a thread :shock:

well i havent heard the cd and i dont know much about hardstyle but what i will say is the guys are very brave to play their style of music in london at hard dance events.
its not everyones cup of tea but gives clubbers an idea of what else there is on offer.

i think if some of you hardstyle peeps have such a problem with cally & juice instead of slagging them off go and make the effort to have a chat with them and tell them your feelings on this subject.
they are nice guys and im sure they will listen to your opinions.

[MARKEG]

i have had some amazing times with cally and juice.

in fact they even saw me in my underpants last week :lol: :oops:

i will say this. cally and juice have been in the scene for a long, long time. they do their thing, they love what they do and they do contribute to the 'non-commercial' club scene in such a massive, massive way. i have so much damn respect for them. nukleuz have picked them up and i wish them all the success in the world. i'm not personally on their musical trip 100% but they do play alot of what I really like and they have the utmost respect for underground music and the rave and hard trance scene.

i respect both of them for all the support they've given me (chances to play in much of south wales) over the last god knows how many years. sure, they're not everyone's cup of tea, but were it not for them there would be no or very little hard trance/hardstyle in south wales.

i say stop the hating - if you think you can do it better then well, get up there and do it ;) :lol:

[Busho]

well put there mark ;)

cally's safe as FCUK!!!


an as for the south wales hard dance scene...... if it wasnt 4 BIONIC / BREATHE there would be FCUK ALL!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[ben miles]

i have had some amazing times with cally and juice.

in fact they even saw me in my underpants last week :lol: :oops:

i will say this. cally and juice have been in the scene for a long, long time. they do their thing, they love what they do and they do contribute to the 'non-commercial' club scene in such a massive, massive way. i have so much damn respect for them. nukleuz have picked them up and i wish them all the success in the world. i'm not personally on their musical trip 100% but they do play alot of what I really like and they have the utmost respect for underground music and the rave and hard trance scene.

i respect both of them for all the support they've given me (chances to play in much of south wales) over the last god knows how many years. sure, they're not everyone's cup of tea, but were it not for them there would be no or very little hard trance/hardstyle in south wales.

i say stop the hating - if you think you can do it better then well, get up there and do it ;) :lol:Well said Mark they are great guys and have helped me out one hell of a lot i agree theyre music isnt always 100% but they do luv what theyre doin, theyre good entertainers and im all for it. Ur set was slammin down Breathe friday and Sharkey on the mic with u was absolutely awsome one of the best crowd reactions ive seen in Breathe.

[DJ Corbzy]

I didn't say that they arnent popular or nice people, stop twisting it.

[Busho]

I just read what i put :doh:

i didnt mean it like u said they werent nice ;) im just a bit fcuked at the moment :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[DJ SPUDIE]

Im sure they are nice people and sure South Wales would be dead for events if they did'nt have there night there.

[DJ Corbzy]

People have got to stop taking criticism so personally, I'm not here to make C&J feel bad or ruin there careers/reputation etc.

I'm just another anorak who'a always got something to say, too many people are too quick to jump on my back with a knife to my throat because I say I don't think what they do is good.

End of...this convo bored me a long time ago.

[lulu]

bloody hell what a thread :shock:

well i havent heard the cd and i dont know much about hardstyle but what i will say is the guys are very brave to play their style of music in london at hard dance events.
its not everyones cup of tea but gives clubbers an idea of what else there is on offer.

i think if some of you hardstyle peeps have such a problem with cally & juice instead of slagging them off go and make the effort to have a chat with them and tell them your feelings on this subject.
they are nice guys and im sure they will listen to your opinions.

compltley agree there.

they are the nicest guys to talk to. they are really sound!!! like a few of you have said on here i dont like all there style but there r lots of tracks i do like.

they always play a variety of music. IMO they always adapt to the night. for example last friday was basically a hardstyle night at breathe. and i loved them they were BANGING!!! when technoboy played i loved them aswell AWSUM.

but b4 they had loads of hardhouse DJ's in evo, cant remember the names of the djs but they were hardhouse and i didnt really like them cos im not into hardhouse. but they always adapt to the style of the night. which IMO i think is really good.

well done i say!!

[Si the Sigh]

i have had some amazing times with cally and juice.

in fact they even saw me in my underpants last week :lol: :oops:

Quite simply...

What the fu*k?! :lol:

[sean.demaine]

i have had some amazing times with cally and juice.

in fact they even saw me in my underpants last week :lol: :oops:

Quite simply...

What the fu*k?! :lol:

at least they didnt see you out your underpants .......!

[Si the Sigh]

ha ha! Yea man, thats true!! :lol: :lol:

[Yoshimitsu]

:lol: :lol:

[~cheeky~]

People have got to stop taking criticism so personally, I'm not here to make C&J feel bad or ruin there careers/reputation etc.

I'm just another anorak who'a always got something to say, too many people are too quick to jump on my back with a knife to my throat because I say I don't think what they do is good.

End of...this convo bored me a long time ago.

well i wernt jumping on yer back.
i said what i said in general,just my thoughts on the subject

[Andy__C]

I'm not here to make C&J feel bad


Mate - u went, searched out their forum and then the thread they posted about the CD they were asked to do and called them sellouts and cheesy as fcuk............and made more derogatary posts when one of em explained what the CD was about to u.................. :doh:


alright 'having strong annorak feelings and being open of ur thoughts on the internet' or whatever is one thing...........

but if u feel strongly that you really have to air your points as u say you do, then don't be surprised if people feel strongly back when your not going about things in the soundest of ways........u think only u have the right to be a kent about things?


anyways.......as u say - best to leave this un alone now ;)

[lulu]

yer i thought that was out of order. yer everyone has their own opinions, but to go on their forum and say that on the thread which they r talking bout their cd was bad.

[DJ Corbzy]

1) I have been a member on that forum for a while now.
2) Didn't search it out to just slate the CD
3) What's wrong with saying that you don't like the CD to the people themselves? I expect all artists & DJ'sa have to deal with people coming on they're own site and saying that they don't like something they do.
4) I apologised for the harshness involved in my initial threads.

..... :roll:

[Yoshimitsu]

i reckon this needs to be locked now, not much else to say

[Busho]

YEAH THERES LOADS MORE TO BE SAID ;) LIKE.......


LOCK THE THREAD :lol: :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

yer i thought that was out of order. yer everyone has their own opinions, but to go on their forum and say that on the thread which they r talking bout their cd was bad.

why lulu, cos there your frineds...pffff....

[MARKEG]

look everyone's entitled an opinion. corbzy, you're an opinionated guy mate but that's why we love you (although sometimes i do have to watch you ya bastard hahaha)

but remember everyone - this is the internet, it's so easy to be nasty - not so easy to be constructive ;)

this site is about being constructive. no easy comments behind computer screens here please.

ok i think i'll lock this. enough has been said eh.