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macca's
01-04-2003, 02:51 PM
well would you?


sorry in a rant about this on another board, i feel it is, they feel its not, but then if it isn't what the **** is it?

(I know some of its underground but the sound in general)

Addict
01-04-2003, 03:07 PM
With DJ's such as Pin UP/Fergie playing on radio 1 and introducing Hard Trance/Techno into their sets i think that hard house as a sound has lost its identity.
I did here a few tunes in the Charts about two year ago but havn't heard anythiong since.
Its deifinitely a part of mainstream club's list of styles of music when it never used to be. I remember when Slinky started playing Lisa Lashes at the Opera House in Bournmouth and thinking here we go thats the end of that then.
There are still people who are still running proper Hard House nights that cater for this music and this music only which I respect
Cheekys@The Matrix!!!!!!!

Voorheez
01-04-2003, 03:08 PM
I would say that it is still pretty much underground, but thats only because when it went mainstream, joe public got bored of it very quickly. I don't think it will ever get another chance to go popular, although it still seems quite popular in other countries.

K Front
01-04-2003, 03:15 PM
I think you can look at it from different ways wether it is main stream or not. But i think if HMVs and virgins all around the country are selling stacks of cheapy cds with the heading 'The best Hard House in the world ever' then it cant be that underground. But i suppose the same goes for other genres like trance, there are still different styles in the same genre. Some sounds are concidered commercial and cheesy and some underground.
I think its hard to say it is or it isnt main stream.

DJ RE:HAB
01-04-2003, 03:36 PM
I feel that HH is mainstream, anything that is advertised nationwide on Tv Radio, complimation Cds, etc etc... Can not avoid falling into the category of being mainstream. One comes with the other in this matter surely...

If its not mainstream music, why all the in yer face advertising and promotions?...

Esox Lucius
01-04-2003, 04:44 PM
it`s defo mainstream

Chazbloke
01-04-2003, 05:05 PM
mainstream to those who go out and ave it every weekend...
underground to those who sit infront of the TV every weekend...

epidemic001
01-04-2003, 09:53 PM
the term "hardhouse" is obviously mainstream.

I heard a hardhouse mix a week or two ago though an none of the tunes sound commercial in anyway. Although it did sound more like hardtrance but with a neverending weak ass hardhouse kickdrum session going on.

It was alot better than hardhouse sounded about 2 years ago imo.

mattshephard
02-04-2003, 12:47 PM
i liked the old hard house pre 99 before it exploded, just typical of a good sound goin commercial.

tony de vit - 'are you all ready' - ****in classic

Elle
02-04-2003, 03:35 PM
yeah good tune. its gotta b pretty mainstream when u get nucleuz hard house cd's in all the record shops. i did dabble a bit in hard house about 2 years ago but aint bothered with it 4 ages now.

eyes without a face
03-04-2003, 09:41 PM
HardHouse is one of the most mainstream genres of music available. in my opinion this is a bad thing, mainly because i hate badly made and cheap drug music. there is nothing hard about it, it shud b called FastHouse.

fair play tho if ur into it, then ur into it. just not my cup of tea at all, ive been to a couple of hard house nites and its totally different to a full on serious techno club... miles apart

Esox Lucius
03-04-2003, 09:55 PM
so far away from techno that even saddams illegal scuds couldn`t reach it :lol:

epidemic001
05-04-2003, 02:19 PM
so far away from techno that even saddams illegal scuds couldn`t reach it

:lol: arent we all political today!

The Teknoist.
05-04-2003, 07:38 PM
id call it shite! hoovers n horns indeed.

wenna
06-04-2003, 11:39 AM
oh my god...and the next time i hear a flanger........... :evil:

Hakka.
07-04-2003, 09:58 AM
I could never really get in to hard house and it made life difficult for decent hard trance listening as Mark Eg / M-Zone were not so regular at DA back in 2000/1 - however the Monastry was available too... rats... those were some good times.

Anyway... Hard House probably got so big and advertised so much as it was pretty much a soley a UK affair really... if it was same sound but from foreign country it may of lasted much much longer. But then again... who knows. I just think that it got so big it hit commercial in it's own backyard and then died as things do when their saturated with attention.

In my opinion... hard house? has had it's day, has had so much attention that it would be very hard to not find it mainstream... only so much you can do by blagging a bouncy bass-line like it uses. Imagine if ALL hard trance was using a hennes & cold beat? eww... that would be boring.

Blah Blah Blah...

Rats.

Voorheez
07-04-2003, 04:36 PM
I could never really get in to hard house and it made life difficult for decent hard trance listening as Mark Eg / M-Zone were not so regular at DA back in 2000/1 - however the Monastry was available too... rats... those were some good times.

Dead right there mate, sadly a certain promoter in Dance Academy dearly loves his hard house - check out this month's line-up, nearly all hard house. Also it wasn't just Monastery that made that time good, Candy Store housed more hard trance than DA at the time, and don't forget the Country Club...


Imagine if ALL hard trance was using a hennes & cold beat? eww... that would be boring.



Sadly, a lot of producers seem to think this exactly :roll:

djjaym
07-04-2003, 04:40 PM
Imagine if ALL hard trance was using a hennes & cold beat? eww... that would be boring.

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ive heard a lot of people on about the Hennes and cold bassline,now i might be wrong but did they not only strat using that once Scot project used it on his mix of Second trip

Voorheez
07-04-2003, 04:48 PM
His mix uses a slightly modified version of the bass from the original mix. I think you could trace the origins of this kind of bassline right back to Mauro Picotto's Lizard.

Hakka.
07-04-2003, 10:52 PM
it's such a widely used bass line... one that I like is Thomas Trouble's baselines... very electric feel to them...

K Front
08-04-2003, 09:46 AM
His mix uses a slightly modified version of the bass from the original mix. I think you could trace the origins of this kind of bassline right back to Mauro Picotto's Lizard.

loved this bassline when i first heard this track

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