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Frank Dogshit
10-10-2004, 06:53 AM
What are our verdicts on this then?its been kicking about for a while now but for me i think these 2 tunes on there are awesome...

especially Trinkco..pure no nonsense hard stuff at its best!!!!

Tiptoe
10-10-2004, 11:05 AM
i like both these tunes. think its the best of the colabs by far.

eyes without a face
10-10-2004, 01:42 PM
i havent liked any of the colabs at all

conflict
10-10-2004, 02:22 PM
Yea its proper pumping techno-absolutely love it

mrbenn
10-10-2004, 02:38 PM
yeh proper bangin release

tioneb
10-10-2004, 02:45 PM
to me its the most disappointing collabs .. sorry bought the two others, though afetr some times the beyer one bores me

literon is very very good ....

The Overfiend
10-10-2004, 03:39 PM
Trikco is the truth.

detfella
10-10-2004, 05:37 PM
listened at work today. like the bangin side :clap:

miss bass
10-10-2004, 07:04 PM
hmmm just not doing it for me :cry: collabs 200- knicker, yep tune but this 3rd one isnt quite got it for me.

Frank Dogshit
10-10-2004, 09:41 PM
Tricko is pure 4am party hard techno...pure dancefloor mayhem is what its aimed at.

can guarantee youll be giving it some when mr paap drops it at voodoo scott!! :rambo:

Tiptoe
10-10-2004, 09:42 PM
danny check ya pm man ;)

Ritzi Lee
11-10-2004, 08:42 AM
literon is very very good ....

agree!!

Ritzi Lee
11-10-2004, 08:44 AM
Tricko is pure 4am party hard techno...pure dancefloor mayhem is what its aimed at.

can guarantee youll be giving it some when mr paap drops it at voodoo scott!! :rambo:


hmmmmz i thought the electro sounding side was a mr. paap production.
And the hard one was from liebing.

eyes without a face
11-10-2004, 12:59 PM
believe me mate, i wont be stomping to anything by Liebing

LOCKED
11-10-2004, 03:29 PM
What dont you like about Liebing?

eyes without a face
11-10-2004, 03:39 PM
where do i start....

the need to intergrate everything in his view into his sets, 12 decks, 4 mixers, a toaster and a george foreman grill set doesnt get me going im afraid..... the music that he produces is so far under the level that it makes me laugh, that eminem sampling track he did topped it off for me....

lets just say i prefer my techno to be of the non-cheesy variety

schlongfingers
11-10-2004, 03:45 PM
His mix of get on up is alright (although I prefer the Marco Klacid mix) - ain't heard much else that's grabbed my ear to be honest.

LOCKED
11-10-2004, 04:07 PM
He has tended to be on the commercial side of things of late, but Stigmata 8 and in fact the majority of the Stigmata's are far from Cheesy- the complete opposite in fact

Frank Dogshit
11-10-2004, 04:25 PM
too much hanging out with picotto wouldnt you say?

theres no doubting liebings got some serious skills and ive seen him play some great sets. orbit 2002 alongside ben sims he played a stunning 3 hour set.
but your right,liebings music has changed and id go as far to say its more techy trance business thesedays.

eyes without a face
11-10-2004, 04:35 PM
im not talking about his past glories, ive got some of the old stigmata's and they do indeed kick it, which makes his current situation even more sad wouldnt u think?

Stigmata 8 one day...... that shite american madness track the next haha

there's just so many others out there doing their thing alot better than Liebing does his im afraid

G-BO
11-10-2004, 05:47 PM
i had a wee listen to this collabs and feel that it is prob the most disapointing one, the speedy j tune is decent enuff, but wasnt worth the money, liebings stuff just bores the dick off me, drawn out european dog's shit

the literon record is ace, both sides, but teh really dark speedy effort is serious

eyes without a face
11-10-2004, 06:33 PM
liebings stuff just bores the dick off me

hahaha hilarious comment mate haha

basslinejunkie
11-10-2004, 09:04 PM
thought these 2 tracks were pretty poor,then again ive only heard 1 min clips of them though.

LOCKED
12-10-2004, 12:41 PM
I agree, my overall view of the collabs project is that they are a bit lame considering the high profile of the artists on their

eyes without a face
12-10-2004, 02:38 PM
definately agree with Locked there, a big name is not a gaurantee of quality these days unfortunately

Ritzi Lee
12-10-2004, 05:03 PM
He has tended to be on the commercial side of things of late, but Stigmata 8 and in fact the majority of the Stigmata's are far from Cheesy- the complete opposite in fact

Stigmata is not Liebing!
And all Liebing things are mixed / engineered by Stigmata.

heavy beats
12-10-2004, 06:13 PM
players do what they want.
haters do what they can.

schlongfingers
12-10-2004, 06:23 PM
definately agree with Locked there, a big name is not a gaurantee of quality these days unfortunately

Has it ever?

Sunil
12-10-2004, 06:26 PM
He has tended to be on the commercial side of things of late, but Stigmata 8 and in fact the majority of the Stigmata's are far from Cheesy- the complete opposite in fact

Stigmata is not Liebing!
And all Liebing things are mixed / engineered by Stigmata.

Stigmata is Liebing and Andre Walter.

heavy beats
12-10-2004, 06:27 PM
He has tended to be on the commercial side of things of late, but Stigmata 8 and in fact the majority of the Stigmata's are far from Cheesy- the complete opposite in fact

Stigmata is not Liebing!
And all Liebing things are mixed / engineered by Stigmata.

Stigmata is Liebing and Andre Walter.
thought it was andrew wooden

heavy beats
12-10-2004, 06:31 PM
....and liebing

Sunil
12-10-2004, 08:41 PM
thought it was andrew wooden

It would seem Wooden and Walter are the same guy.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Andrew+Wooden

eyes without a face
12-10-2004, 08:47 PM
definately agree with Locked there, a big name is not a gaurantee of quality these days unfortunately

Has it ever?

i happen to think so yes

davethedrummer
13-10-2004, 10:41 AM
both trax start off well but they just get boring after a while.
i like the noises but the arrangements are a bit crap for playing out
the break on one side is so damn late on in the track and it's really aimless and pointless and too long and it'll just have the crowd standing there scratching their heads. ( which it did on saturday the first and last time i played it)
the other side just goes round and round with really fantastic noises but it's just too long , i mean i get the point , now do something else please or staop and give us a second track.

no ...... so far i'm dissapointed.
these guys are capable of much more.

eyes without a face
13-10-2004, 12:23 PM
these guys are capable of much more

that's the feeling i get dude, well where Speedy is concerned anyway

schlongfingers
13-10-2004, 12:45 PM
definately agree with Locked there, a big name is not a gaurantee of quality these days unfortunately

Has it ever?

i happen to think so yes

I'm not trying to pick, but WHEN?

There have always been 'Big Name' (ick) artists / dj's / whatevers in any kind of music with reputations predominantly based on hype rather than talent.

eyes without a face
13-10-2004, 01:00 PM
thats true yes, i wont deny that, but the best example i can think of is Mills... true he isnt everyones cup of tea these days, but when he was starting out and up to when he really hit his peak the guy was untouchable... some still think so today, some dont

eyes without a face
13-10-2004, 01:01 PM
but lets not turn this thread into another disagreement thread dude, pm me if you aint happy with my comments

too many threads going off topic on here lately, im guilty of it myself, we all are so lets try and keep it back on topic here....

TRB
15-10-2004, 06:26 PM
I love Speedy J productions, but this one disapointed me. Boring stuff.

Who worked at Stigmata and did a nice job was Andrew Wodden.

Try to listen this record : Wicca001 (you can find it here : http://www.decks-records.com )

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