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DJCraig Ryan
13-04-2003, 06:35 PM
Alright Lads,
i've spun a mix today, Whoever wants a copy PM me your address.
My CD Re-Writer is fecked :cry: so i will have to give TAPES out... sorry.




ACID TRANCE


Tracklisting;

1 - Uberdruck Presents Drugface "Fat As ****" (DJ The Crow Mix)
2 - Under Constuction "Umleitung" (D-Gor RMX)
3 - A*S*Y*S "From Past 2 Phuture"
4 - Brain 37 "Shake With The Devil"
5 - Mad Creatures "Circle Of Darkness" (DJ The Crow Mix)
6 - Toolboy "Fear The Drill" (DJ The Crow Mix)
7 - Uberdruck Presents Drugface "Fat As ****" (Uberdruck Mix)
8 - Brain 26 "Question" (Vocal Mix)
9 - Lorenzo De Preti "Identification"

DJCraig Ryan
13-04-2003, 08:44 PM
GET IN.......RESULT, what a guy Cascade is......

Listen, cascade as kindly said he will copy my tape onto a limit of 5 CDs.

Sargent will be getting one, 4 more left.......

djfase
13-04-2003, 10:12 PM
pm'd ya m8

DJCraig Ryan
13-04-2003, 11:30 PM
pm'd ya m8


I've not got your PM Mate, give us your address.
So far ive got PM's off:
Sargent
French Og
Pilgrimpete

djstride
14-04-2003, 12:10 AM
right, ive noticed this with a couple of you lot now... you dont seem to mind playing 2 mixes of one track in one mix. now i dont like really even playing 2 tracks off one label or by one person in a single mix myself but do you all find this completely acceptable??

mattshephard
14-04-2003, 10:04 AM
yeah ive noticed everyone plays too much uberdruck - not just on this board but other mixes ive heard. I find most of his productions although excellent sound too simililar imo.

K Front
14-04-2003, 10:16 AM
right, ive noticed this with a couple of you lot now... you dont seem to mind playing 2 mixes of one track in one mix. now i dont like really even playing 2 tracks off one label or by one person in a single mix myself but do you all find this completely acceptable??

I think it is acceptable, i try not to use to 2 mixes of the same track but a lot of the time they fit into the mix well and give it a good flow, if you know what i mean.
Yeh i know what you mean matt, about 2 out of 3 mixes that i hear on the net have at least one uberdruck track, i dont use a lot of uberdruck stuff because i think they have become a bit too popular in the underground scene.

Addict
14-04-2003, 10:52 AM
I used to think like that but the odd two tunes by the same artist fit together really well and the average clubber isn't gonna really know the difference. Why should it matter? You shouldn't play a whole set of it of course.

macca's
14-04-2003, 11:25 AM
I don't think it maters to a great extent, I suppose playing two different mixes of the same tune could be a little excessive, as long as you make an effort not to play both mixes for to long though it'll be fine I reckon..

Uberdruck tunes though are so easy to mix into each other, because of those bass lines I can see the advantage, id probably be doing the same thing...

mattshephard
14-04-2003, 11:49 AM
I think it is acceptable, i try not to use to 2 mixes of the same track but a lot of the time they fit into the mix well and give it a good flow, if you know what i mean.
Yeh i know what you mean matt, about 2 out of 3 mixes that i hear on the net have at least one uberdruck track, i dont use a lot of uberdruck stuff because i think they have become a bit too popular in the underground scene.

yeah hence why i dont own one uberdruck vinyl, not cos i dont think hes not talented as a producer cos hes excellent but everyone plays his stuff so i try and aim away from the rest of the crowd

Addict
14-04-2003, 12:02 PM
I think it is acceptable, i try not to use to 2 mixes of the same track but a lot of the time they fit into the mix well and give it a good flow, if you know what i mean.
Yeh i know what you mean matt, about 2 out of 3 mixes that i hear on the net have at least one uberdruck track, i dont use a lot of uberdruck stuff because i think they have become a bit too popular in the underground scene.

yeah hence why i dont own one uberdruck vinyl, not cos i dont think hes not talented as a producer cos hes excellent but everyone plays his stuff so i try and aim away from the rest of the crowd

I don't go quite as far as to not buy any of his releases but there's a certain style that he does that I like and I only buy tunes with this style. For me his ACIDY stuff is best, really pumping! Not too keen on the melodic trance he does except maybe "The Speed"

djstride
14-04-2003, 04:49 PM
i dont buy uberdruck stuff either... dont even bother listening to it in the shops anymore.

DJCraig Ryan
14-04-2003, 11:28 PM
Come on guys what the hell is wrong with you?
I can't believe some of you don't even buy their stuff or even dont listen to it anymore!!
Where talking the best Hard Trance producers on the Planet here, and you don't even buy it?? I think that is crazy!!
So what its popular in the Underground scene its because its so damn good!!

Listen, its by no way commercial and never will be, so what you all worrying about?
I think its very sad people not buying it because its popular in the undergorund scene, i totally disagree with this.



As for this Mix.....

I didn't for one second go into one tiny bit of detail where tracklisting is concerned. I just fancied doing a quick recorded mix, with the Style of Acid Trance. I just picked out some of my Acid records, hit record and then basically mixed on from there.
Obviously, i wanted to build my mix up and by having a good idea of my records i did so.
I wasn't worrying about 'too' much Uberdruck being on, or by playing 2 of the different mixes on the 'same' track.
I mixed on the fly, and just concentrated on my mixing and building my set up.
I mean, if i was to do a proper 'studio mix,' i would put a lot of thought into my mix....just to get it spot on.......and no i wouldn't play 2 mixes of the same track.
I just hit record listened over it at the end, it sounded pretty good, so i thought i just stick it up on here......that's all.

Finally, as for Uberdruck, i play what i like and Uberdruck is my fav style so i stuck quite a few in. I still can't get over some of you not buying Uberdruck!! Thats bad!!

DJCraig Ryan
14-04-2003, 11:41 PM
Right, cascade as started my mix. He copied my tape onto his comp, all he has to do now is burn them off onto CD's. Then ill get um posted.

The 5 CD's go to....


Sargent
French Og
Pilgrimpete
Trance Addict (only cos i want a christmas card off him)
Boxy


I'll also send tapes out to ....
Elle
Bear



Anybody else PM me and i'll see what i can do

Voorheez
15-04-2003, 01:28 PM
I don't agree about not buying records just cos' others like them, that's stupid. I don't listen to Uberdruck tunes when they come out anymore simply because I don't like their new stuff - I don't see anything wrong with that.

macca's
15-04-2003, 02:40 PM
I have pm..

mattshephard
15-04-2003, 02:54 PM
ok ok it might be eat my words time
I said that i think hes an excellent producer one of the best, but i find most of his tunes sound the same thats all.
I meant to point out that most demo cds Ive heard have loads of uberdruck on it which to me seems really unimaginitive imo, hence why I wont buy any when im trying to push myslef like the rest of you djing. Thats all, sorry to offend any of you im sure the mix cd is wicked craig but I just find most of uberdrucks releases sound the same, my opinion thats all! :D

DJCraig Ryan
15-04-2003, 06:50 PM
ok ok it might be eat my words time
I said that i think hes an excellent producer one of the best, but i find most of his tunes sound the same thats all.
I meant to point out that most demo cds Ive heard have loads of uberdruck on it which to me seems really unimaginitive imo, hence why I wont buy any when im trying to push myslef like the rest of you djing. Thats all, sorry to offend any of you im sure the mix cd is wicked craig but I just find most of uberdrucks releases sound the same, my opinion thats all! :D



Yeah no worries mate.
Before i just wanted to explain my reasons thats all.
Its like i said, basically this mix was just purely for fun. I fancied some acid trance, so i picked out some of my Fav Acid Trance tunes, and then just mixed on the fly....just mixed from there on in.

At the end i was pretty happy considering there was no pre-preparation going into this mix.



In a bit though, i'm going to do a proper 'studio mix' with a lot of thought going into the tracks and structuring of the mix.
I'll send the mix aswell.
I keep you all posted.................

DJCraig Ryan
15-04-2003, 07:06 PM
Right, i've got the following names for my mix:

Sargent
French Og
Pilgrimpete
Trance Addict
Boxy
Elle
Bear
Macca

5cd's will be sent (thanx to cascade) and the rest tapes.
I know that cascade is in the process of preparing copies for me.
People that are on the Hard Trance/Rave Discussion regularly will be getting CD's....its only fair.


Cheers,

Addict
15-04-2003, 07:31 PM
I think people were a bit out of order coming on this post and moaning about people playing Uberdruck tunes. It should have been started on another post. Sorry mate. :mrgreen:

MARKEG
15-04-2003, 07:34 PM
yeah, start another topic if you want :wink:

cascade
15-04-2003, 11:02 PM
ok, seams like we have hit a minefield here craig.
im working on the cds as we speak so ill get them back to craig within two days. He will then imediatly post them on to you guys.

And as for all this bitching about uberdruack, well what can i say,


not alot realy.
but i will say this, i understand why some of you are getting p[issed of with people using 2 different mixes of the same song on one cd. I have done this in the apst on some of my cds, and personally ave no problem with it. Some times there is absolutly no way of avoiding this because you just cant make your mind up on which is the best RMX. i have heard both RMX's of "fat as fcuk" and i can see how they are totally different and have two totally different production approches. The thing about using two RMX's isnt like your abusing the song your just using it for comparison, you can spot so many different things you like about the two tracks.

(a way to combat this is to do what i have done in the past, mix the two RMX's together and track mark it as one track, its your own RMX OF THE RMX's)

I am no uberdruck master but i do know that what i hear is damn good track production. The ideas for tunes are wicked, and the way they sound and hit you is awesome. Like i said before about the way a track makes you feel, uberdruck does get you going and is at the forefront of hard trance so why complain?????????

You can argue all day about how undergrond the "underground" actualy is, but thats just gettin fcuking stupid init.

It is underground, credited.
How underground you guys consider underground is another matter and shouldnt be talked about on a thread about a cd that someone has worked on and has offered to you guys (for nothing remember).

If it all wants to kick off about uberdruck and how underground it is we should realy kick it off on another thread.

One last thing,
If you thing for one second that a dj has put 2 mixes of the same track on one cd because his collection is small then you need to fcucking grow up.

TRACKS ON CDS ARE THERE FOR REASONS.

And thats all i have to say about this but if all want we can have a huge heated conversation on a seperate thread about uberdruck and the underground and we can really find out if you all actually listen uberdruck PROPERLY.

team cascade out!!!

djfase
16-04-2003, 12:23 AM
what happened to my copy m8. ive pmd and emailed

DJCraig Ryan
19-04-2003, 11:55 PM
what happened to my copy m8. ive pmd and emailed


Sorry Bud, i've just seen your email. but i haven't got your PM.
Send us a PM with your addy and i'll sort ya a copy no problem.

Cheers,

DJCraig Ryan
20-04-2003, 12:00 AM
Right, i've got the CD's sorted now. I'll send mixes out to the following people next week:

CD's:
Sargent
Trance Addict
Macca
DJFase
Boxy


Tapes:
Elle
Bear
Pilgrimpete
French Og

I'll let you all know when i've posted 'um.

DJCraig Ryan
03-05-2003, 03:24 PM
Sorry guys for the delay, ive been really busy lately and haven't been able to find the time.
Im just updating you all that i will be sending them out soon. I PROMISE!!

This is the trouble when you've not CD RE-WRITER!!!

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