Kick Drum In Pimp 2 -Wilko

[fatcollective]

Has anyone heard this track? What a FAT as **** Kick drum he's got going there, Out of a FAT rig the Bottom End is superb!!!

[neilried]

Yep, Quality tune, Pimp 006 (James Di Griz) - also has a phatt as **** kick drum, just a shame the whole drum track got reused for a track on player 17 or 18 just with a dif b'line, but very chunky beatz none the less...

How do they do it?!?!?

[fatcollective]

im sure its a combination of a good drum machine, a shit hot eq & most probably a v expensive compressor!! anyways i want 1!!! bin having a mess about at home but my mackie monitors start complainig to me when i whack the bottomend up an if it aint the mackies complaining its mr & mrs jones 5 doors down!!! :nono: :rambo:

[RDR]

im seeing him at the end of the month so i'll talk to him and ask him.

You can always get a decent kick from layering an compressing. Over compression is not the answer. A good compressor does help, the waves compressors are great.

[neilried]

Nice one, :clap: would be cool to hear how to make those soul shaking kicks....

[fatcollective]

im seeing him at the end of the month so i'll talk to him and ask him.

You can always get a decent kick from layering an compressing. Over compression is not the answer. A good compressor does help, the waves compressors are great. :clap: good man!!! id like to know how he does it 2!!! just for the record, where u goin to c him???

[RDR]

27th at pure techno in hull

His mum lives in my home town and a girl-friend of mine is seeing him at the moment. I get to chat with him from time to time. Im also the VJ for Pure Techno and Im playing as part of the mash up there on the 27th...

I'll ask him, don't know if he'll tell me, but ill ask him never the less. failing that ill ask phil walls (tune inn, yin yang) he told him how to do it, so the technique is about the same.

as for further technique tips, try a hard limit after saturating it...

[loopdon]

27th at pure techno in hull

His mum lives in my home town and a girl-friend of mine is seeing him at the moment. I get to chat with him from time to time. Im also the VJ for Pure Techno and Im playing as part of the mash up there on the 27th...

I'll ask him, don't know if he'll tell me, but ill ask him never the less. failing that ill ask phil walls (tune inn, yin yang) he told him how to do it, so the technique is about the same.

as for further technique tips, try a hard limit after saturating it...


aaah yess, i think i should try that saturation advice, m8!
any suggestions for a suitable plug?

something like this, perhaps ?:

BAXXPANDER

http://www.uv.es/%7Eruizcan/p_vst.htm

http://www.uv.es/%7Eruizcan/sintes/baxxpander_v12.zip

Vintage style saturation/bass expander unit,
presented as VST effect. We think this plugin is specially good to add warmth and saturation to drums
and basses, and with vocal tracks that need a little punch. It uses very little CPU, and includes 8 factory presets.

[fatcollective]

27th at pure techno in hull

His mum lives in my home town and a girl-friend of mine is seeing him at the moment. I get to chat with him from time to time. Im also the VJ for Pure Techno and Im playing as part of the mash up there on the 27th...

I'll ask him, don't know if he'll tell me, but ill ask him never the less. failing that ill ask phil walls (tune inn, yin yang) he told him how to do it, so the technique is about the same.

as for further technique tips, try a hard limit after saturating it...


aaah yess, i think i should try that saturation advice, m8!
any suggestions for a suitable plug?

something like this, perhaps ?:

BAXXPANDER

http://www.uv.es/%7Eruizcan/p_vst.htm

http://www.uv.es/%7Eruizcan/sintes/baxxpander_v12.zip

Vintage style saturation/bass expander unit,
presented as VST effect. We think this plugin is specially good to add warmth and saturation to drums
and basses, and with vocal tracks that need a little punch. It uses very little CPU, and includes 8 factory presets.

thanks a bunch for them!! they really made a difference to me!!! i like em both v much & will neva make a track without them now!!!

[loopdon]

i'm glad you like it ;)

[Mindful]

I keep saying this but NICE ONE Loopdon.

[RDR]

Just spoke phil walls and he reliably tells me wilko works entirely in acid 1, soundforge and t-racks

and i quote

Phil Walls says:
and his computers the slowest you've ever witnesed
Phil Walls says:
but he still gets the results


Also phil says that wilko works layering kicks. EQing things into the right places.

ill ask him like i said on 27th for ya, he might be more precise.. hope so.

[loopdon]

some more free saturation, anyone? ;)

Comprimere

Saturation VST Plugin

http://www.sentineldesign.net/xsi/

http://www.sentineldesign.net/xsi/files/Comprimere.zip

haven't tried the above one yet...


dominion :cool:

signal modelling device

What is dominion?
If you were searching for a tool to shape the envelope of a signal, giving you total control of the signal's attack & sustain phase, dominion is certainly something for you!
But it's got more to offer...A short overview of the features:


Envelope section. Adjust attack & sustain independently, regardless of input level. Plus, you have control over the envelopes' time constants. Imagine pulling a drummer up front or pushing him to the background by dragging just a single slider! Feel like moving the walls around him? Again, a single push enhances the room information or can make the sound really dry.
Imagine doing things like this with other instruments as well... :)

Saturation stage. Following digitalfishphones tradition, the plugin can help to reduce harshness often associated with digital recordings, giving back some warmth and life to your source by modelling classic analog equipment. The tonal character stays adjustable within a broad range.

High frequency details section. Similar to classic exciter circuits, this section allows you to brighten up a signal, giving transparency and depth by generating additional harmonics.

Non-clipping output stage. Like the endorphin compressor, a brickwall waveshaper circuit ensures that the output won't exceed -0.1dBFS, while remaining sonically clean.

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/images/screenshots/dominion.gif

Homepage:

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=4

Download:

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/binaries/dominion_v1.2_PC.zip

[fatcollective]

if there as good as the last 2 m8, thanx again!!! ill give em a wang n c what they do 4 me n let u know!!!!!!! thanx again :lol:

[fatcollective]

Just spoke phil walls and he reliably tells me wilko works entirely in acid 1, soundforge and t-racks

and i quote

Phil Walls says:
and his computers the slowest you've ever witnesed
Phil Walls says:
but he still gets the results


Also phil says that wilko works layering kicks. EQing things into the right places.

ill ask him like i said on 27th for ya, he might be more precise.. hope so.
****in hell!!! this guy knows his stuff!!! im takin all this in, deep into my techno brain!!! thanx for lettin us know what he said!!!

[loopdon]

Saturation now! :lol:

THD

analog-style saturator

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/images/screenshots/thd.gif

"....I was searching for something that sounded a bit like my old tube bass preamp that I like using for fattening up vocals or drum tracks."

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=2

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/binaries/THD.zip

[neilried]

Just spoke phil walls and he reliably tells me wilko works entirely in acid 1, soundforge and t-racks

and i quote

Phil Walls says:
and his computers the slowest you've ever witnesed
Phil Walls says:
but he still gets the results


Also phil says that wilko works layering kicks. EQing things into the right places.

ill ask him like i said on 27th for ya, he might be more precise.. hope so.


Splendid choice, acid and soundforge are all I use, just not getting the results just yet but nearly....

[RDR]

Just spoke phil walls and he reliably tells me wilko works entirely in acid 1, soundforge and t-racks

and i quote

Phil Walls says:
and his computers the slowest you've ever witnesed
Phil Walls says:
but he still gets the results


Also phil says that wilko works layering kicks. EQing things into the right places.

ill ask him like i said on 27th for ya, he might be more precise.. hope so.
**** hell!!! this guy knows his stuff!!! im takin all this in, deep into my techno brain!!! thanx for lettin us know what he said!!!


You takin the michael?

(seriously im confused...)

[fatcollective]

well if he can make tracks like he does on acid 1 n soundforge, then he must know his stuff, cos acid 1 is very limited, he must ragg to bits man!!! fair play

[fatcollective]

we r talkin about wilko here aint we? im gettin confused now!! :eh:

[RDR]

Yes we are.

I thought the same thing, but Phil has been to his house a few times... This is second hand comment i know, but thats what he said.

Like i said im gonna confirm it with him on the 27th...

[neilried]

I also know someone (not as acredited as Wilko by any stretch of the imagination) who produces band orientated stuff, live drums acoustic guitars all sorts of sh!t.

Biggest claim to fame for him was producer and sound engineer on a number one in albania (dodgy vanessa may style violin stuff) and he did that in acid 1 and still works in it as swears blind that it is the most stable (?!?!?) and does everything he needs, having heard his stuff, albeit not my thing at all, is brilliantly produced and sounds sweet....

It can be done!!!! And hats off to those that can... :clap:

[RDR]

Many a tune played on an old fiddle...

if it sounds good, it is good, music is the art of demonstrating perception to others so that they undertstand. find me a plug-in for that and you've made a million.

(this is no way a dig at those who have posted plugin url's - i love plugins and the time people devote to them)

peace out at christmas, spare a thought for those in the shit, and a very happy and productive new year to those who i have spoken to on here.

[neilried]

something like this, perhaps ?:

BAXXPANDER

http://www.uv.es/%7Eruizcan/p_vst.htm


Something exactly like that!!! Nice one again Loopdon, only got round to loading this up last night and am so impressed with the imeadite effect that am going to revisit some stuff Id given up on coz I hadnt been able to make them Growl.... until now.... :evil:

[loopdon]

glad you like it, neill.
tell us how it goes, in addition to that, here's another free plug, that claims to punch up yer drums (and anything else you feed it):

CamelPhatFree

http://www.camelaudio.com/devsite/images/CamelPhatFree-large.jpg

CamelPhatFree is Camel Audio's, completely free compressor and distortion freeware vst plugin effect. It features a great compressor and distortion with one incredibly easy to use interface. Its great for use on drums, bass and just about anything else that needs fattening up!

Feature highlights

- analogue-modelled distortion algorithm
- warm sounding compressor
- easy to use interface
- randomize feature for instant inspiration

http://www.camelaudio.com/camelphatfree.php

PC:
http://www.camelaudio.com/CamelPhatFree.zip

Mac:
http://www.camelaudio.com/CamelPhatFree.sit

[RDR]

Hi folks

I did indeed speak to wilko on the 27th, but the poor man was full of flu and in no mood to talk about stuff like that.

I did get a promise out of him tho that he would tell me later via the new fangled telephone...

[loopdon]

that's cool, can't wait to hear :twisted:

[slavestudios]

tbh, i thought a lot of Wilko/Player/Ignition Technition was all sampled rather programmed...

i suppose if its Acid then thats the case..

btw, :clap: for the vst's

[loopdon]

it's a pleasure