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Dirtyacid
23-01-2005, 07:44 PM
im wanting to produce techno like what scott kemix & the fat collective do but im totally in the dark about where to start & what program to use i,ve got steinburg but i don,t know where too start what would be a good program for a novice?

Barely Human
23-01-2005, 07:57 PM
Get yourself a copy of Fl Studio mate, probably the best thing for anyone to start with...

loopdon
23-01-2005, 09:09 PM
that's what i would have said, too ;)

http://www.fruityloops.com/

can't go wrong with that little bugger :rambo:

feel free to ask questions, m8!


a very basic tutorial u should have a look @:

http://www.computermusic.co.uk/tutorial/sc1/3.asp


Mr. Mystery's percussion tips - Part 1 -:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=8b002a0e9a74ffb9bad664e866c2d819& threadid=224021&highlight=%22percussion%22

Basic 909 Drum Samples:

http://216.55.137.24/hollowsun/vintage_dl/tr909.zip

A synth for free:

http://home.btconnect.com/christopherg/main.htm

http://home.btconnect.com/christopherg/superwave-p8-16.zip

hope that helped! :cool:

rounser
23-01-2005, 10:20 PM
I think that Reason has an edge over plugin hosts like FL Studio in terms of learning how to produce quickly, mainly revolving around the fact that it isn't a plugin host. My reasoning:

1)Pretty much every tool you need to know in order to be able to produce is hardwired in there, so you're automatically learning the right stuff.
2) Because it's a closed system you won't get distracted by random plugins and the random crashes they can cause. This may seem trivial, but you can literally waste years collecting and trying out random plugins, or trying to make your setup stable and crash-free.
3) The other advantage to learning on a non-plugin platform like Reason is that you can download song files from the web (i.e. Reasonstation and the Propellerheads site) and they'll work on your machine, so you can learn directly from what others have done. Plugin hosts will require you to have the same plugins as the original producer for the song file to work (which odds are you won't have), so by using them as a beginner you miss out on a huge learning opportunity.

When you've got your basic production chops down in Reason, you can switch to a plugin host and customise your working environment to suit your personal workflow and production priorities.

As far as production advice goes, raid the Sound On Sound, Future Music and Computer Music magazine archives (www.soundonsound.com etc.). There's a tonne of good articles online in there (especially in the case of SOS and FM).

Paying www.musictheory.net a visit might be worthwhile too, just to get an introduction to the topic.

RDR
24-01-2005, 10:29 AM
Even tho im a fruity user to the core ....

(god i love FL... creativity and funkiness are awesome - shame about lack of 24bit and dodgy export loop lengths etc etc)

...i will still recommend reason as i teach it in college and it is important when starting off not to be distracted by plugins and gubbins... try reason it works for lots of people and is a good place to start.

FILTERZ
28-01-2005, 01:30 PM
yep have to say Reason as well , allthough fruity aint bad

Ritzi Lee
28-01-2005, 02:23 PM
it' takes time to develop a feeling.
take a couple of years.

just do what your doing.
talk a lot about music.
exchange knowledge.
frequently come back over here. ;)

BRADLEE
28-01-2005, 04:48 PM
If you're into the hardware aspect as well, the KORG EM1 is a very easy to use piece of gear. Has 10 parts drums and 2 parts synth on it, and it's probably the easiest step sequencer that there is to learn.

fresh_an_funky_design
28-01-2005, 06:22 PM
Get yourself a copy of Fl Studio mate, probably the best thing for anyone to start with...



**** that why learn with one program then upgrade, just buy some books, do some tutorials an learn cubase. All of us at FAT collective either use Cubase or Logic, so if you wanna make tunes like us use the same sequence. Im sure if you contact one of us we can sort you out with VST plug-ins

j_s
29-01-2005, 06:18 PM
Get yourself a copy of Fl Studio mate, probably the best thing for anyone to start with...



**** that why learn with one program then upgrade, just buy some books, do some tutorials an learn cubase. All of us at FAT collective either use Cubase or Logic, so if you wanna make tunes like us use the same sequence. Im sure if you contact one of us we can sort you out with VST plug-ins

whatever you make, i'm sure you could do the same in fruity.
cubase does have it's advantages, but fl can give results & is much more intuitive.

i'd say just try em all out, logic, cubase, reason, fl, ableton, whatever. use which ever you find easiest. if you run into limitations you can change later, the stuff you'll have learn't with the first sequencer will help a lot with getting to grips with others......

Scott Kemix
29-01-2005, 09:07 PM
im wanting to produce techno like what scott kemix & the fat collective do but im totally in the dark about where to start & what program to use i,ve got steinburg but i don,t know where too start what would be a good program for a novice?
try using reason 2.5 this program has everything you need to build tracks. Always keep an open mind to more professional packages such as cubase sx and logic, as these programs have much larger capabilities.[quote]

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