View Full Version : UK Hardstyle labels - can you recomend?
NRGboy
22-04-2005, 06:19 AM
Hi all, need some advice please. I would like to start producing some Hardstyle tracks only I haven't got a clue how to use cuebase or reason properly. Can you recomend any good uk based Hardstyle labels where I could pay someone to engineer a tune?
Barely Human
22-04-2005, 07:49 AM
:dontevengothere:
Hey, why not just pay me and you can pretend one of my tracks is your own :doh:
Try buying some software and learning mate.
Sorry to sound harsh, but people who do this piss me off. Whats the point? There is loads of people who spend shit loads of cash buying softare and hardware and spend years of thier life dedicated to learning to produce, and still havent got a release. I dont see why someone should just pay someone to make a tune for them and then slap thier name on it to make themselves look better and probably try and make cash from it. Would you pay someone to mix for you aswell?
With time and effort, making your own tracks will be a lot more rewarding.
NRGboy
22-04-2005, 10:21 AM
bit harsh, but thanks for replying anyway.
i've got a few ideas for tunes and have tried using reason 2.5 and cuebase but i'm clueless about the software and could do with some tuition. Any ideas? Is there any books out there that will help? how do I get started? Am I using the wrong programmes for a begginer? Is there any easier software to start learning with?
Barely Human
22-04-2005, 10:39 AM
Sorry to sound harsh man, its just something im very pasionate about :cool:
Reason is a good one to start with, but i would highly recomend getting a copy of FL Studio. Get some decent samples and have a play with it. If you have any specifica questions that you need answering then im more than obliged to help you out, aswell as a lot of people on here ;)
Id advise you track down -
FL Studio
Novation V-Station
ReFx Vangaurd
As many samples as you can get your hands on.
If you need any help then hook me up on msn and i might be able to sort you out ;)
NRGboy
22-04-2005, 11:24 AM
Point taken on using someone else to engineer a tune, never really thought of it like that, just thought it was the done thing to pay an engineer for their time. Obviously I have a lot to learn. :oops:
Thanks for the info and your help, i'll check em out :lol:
Basically its things ike this which is strangling the scene.
quick buck tunes
absolute crap with zero passion on vinyl that labels use to rake it in.
sit down , get the software , learn , and produce something from yourself and soul.
Adrian A
22-04-2005, 07:06 PM
If your just starting out and got reason and want a sample cd id say get a copy of essential Hardstyle tools vol.1 or 2 its got over 1000 samples on it go to www.bass-ic.de for more info :)
NRGboy
22-04-2005, 09:02 PM
thanks mate, just checking it out now ;)
Agent 24
22-04-2005, 10:03 PM
I find Reason quite easy and logical to use. But if you go in with the attitude of expecting to make a top quality track straight away you're going to be disappointed. Half the fun of production is spending hours on end messing around with different sounds and finding your own way round the software. If you expect to be releasing tracks without basic knowledge of what you're actually doing, you should be questioning your motives for doing it in the first place.
NRGboy
22-04-2005, 10:53 PM
ok, I was under the impression that a good way to start out making tunes was to have someone with experience engineer your idea in a studio and you would pick things up a long the way until you were competent enough to start making your own tracks.
Evidently I was completely wrong and should pull my finger out of my lazy ass and work out how to use the software that I have. I've just ordered HardStyle tools Vol 2 and someone I know that has used Reason is gonna pop round next week and give me a few pointers. Time to get learning!!!!!!!
I'm completely new to producing so any advice is welcome!
I have absolutely no intention of making a top quality track straight away the reason that I want to start producing is because I want to try and put something back into an industry that has given me so much pleasure over the past 7 years and cause I love music
Dave Elyzium
22-04-2005, 11:41 PM
give the guy a break people what i think he was trying to say in a round about way is "i want to pay for studio time with a guy to help me build a tune" not write it for him.
NRGboy
22-04-2005, 11:49 PM
thankyou
DJTrubass
23-04-2005, 12:51 AM
im happy with learinig how to do it myself, maybe if a pro offered me tips then i would take them, but i cant be arsed fannying around releasing tracks that i didnt make 100% myself, if i want to release a tune by me i want it to be mine and no body elses, (unless im doing a remix or joint project);
sure it would be good to go into a studio with a big producer, but to have him littearly make ur track aout of a few samples and melodys u have written then release onto vinyl say, i dont think thats the best call, learn how to make tuynes ur self, cubase is hard learn in fruity and then push your skills further....
sam
EmotionComplex
23-04-2005, 01:42 AM
give the guy a break people what i think he was trying to say in a round about way is "i want to pay for studio time with a guy to help me build a tune" not write it for him.
hehe indeed, you lot need to calm down a little :rambo:
EmotionComplex
23-04-2005, 01:55 AM
ok, I was under the impression that a good way to start out making tunes was to have someone with experience engineer your idea in a studio and you would pick things up a long the way until you were competent enough to start making your own tracks.
Evidently I was completely wrong and should pull my finger out of my lazy ass and work out how to use the software that I have. I've just ordered HardStyle tools Vol 2 and someone I know that has used Reason is gonna pop round next week and give me a few pointers. Time to get learning!!!!!!!
I'm completely new to producing so any advice is welcome!
I have absolutely no intention of making a top quality track straight away the reason that I want to start producing is because I want to try and put something back into an industry that has given me so much pleasure over the past 7 years and cause I love music
its ok mate, you are right. it would definetly be a good start being able to spend some time with a experienced studio engineer for sure, he will be compitent in sequencing and hopefully know a fair bit about various mixdown processes and such and be able to advise you about the things you need to make the music your into. But something like that will probobly cost you a fair bit of money in the long run.
Id say this friend of yours using reason will be a good way to start getting into it, get him to show you the layout and explain what it does, once you understand the workings of it you should be good to go with teaching yourself the rest at home and also understand the various tutorials and such that are availible on the net.
forums like this are also great for getting in touch with people using the same software as yourself who might be further ahead and able to offer some vital advice.
youl be suprised with how much you can teach yourself from just sitting down with it all and exploring/experimenting with the software.
its bloody fun aswell :love:
NRGboy
23-04-2005, 07:44 AM
thanks guys for ALL your responses :lol: like i say, this is all new to me, your comments and help will come in very usefull. I do see your points, paying for studio time and not actually having a track that is 100% my own product and will be of some descent standard would not be as rewarding as having a track that is not as good but that I have made totally myself.
I didn't intend on paying someone to do it all for me, that WOULD be wrong. I'm glad I asked the question anyway because I would probably never have looked at it that way, well probably not till i got a bit more experienced.
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:dontevengothere:
Hey, why not just pay me and you can pretend one of my tracks is your own :doh:
Try buying some software and learning mate.
Sorry to sound harsh, but people who do this piss me off. Whats the point? There is loads of people who spend shit loads of cash buying softare and hardware and spend years of thier life dedicated to learning to produce, and still havent got a release. I dont see why someone should just pay someone to make a tune for them and then slap thier name on it to make themselves look better and probably try and make cash from it. Would you pay someone to mix for you aswell?
With time and effort, making your own tracks will be a lot more rewarding.
Have to agree with this one.
People are often looking to get into studios and expecting the engineer to wave a magic wand, while they sit there nodding their head, saying "yeah that sounds good".
I think if you learn it all yaself, or have a mate who was in the same predicament, it's a more beneficial learning expierience and much better than paying 150+ a time to go in the studio.
I think if you write and produce the track then, take it to an engineer who'll get the best quality of the sounds and mix it down as well, that's still very credible because mixing down and getting the best sound quality out of your instruments takes ages to learn, but you've still got the tune idea and wrote it yaself.
Not accusuing you of doing this NRGBoy at all matey :cool:
Just my input on the subject at hand :)
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