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Hakka.
30-05-2003, 03:52 PM
Thought we could have a hardstyle debate.

First off I think it would be best to post a link to a track which is blatant hardstyle and another which is half hardstyle and perhaps a hardstyle track which is poor so we can compare and view the genre a bit.


http://germantrance.com/content/_rams/FTS020A.ram

Now that track (Wildstyle Generation Part 2, Klassic & Sanders Mix) is what I call good, original hardstyle. It's in yer face, heavy and really dirty. It has obvious connections to the harder edge of hard trance but is dirty enough and hard enough to warrant to it to be classed outside fo hard trance.


http://germantrance.com/content/_rams/HARDNATION02A.ram

This track Phuture Punkz - Fiction is very similar to a what generic hardstyle tracks sound like. Basically a simple riff which very heavy kicks and distorted bass. Good for the mental moments on the dance floor.


http://germantrance.com/content/_rams/BLU064B.ram

This track is Hardstyle Nation by Blutonium Boy vs DJ Neo. Now I find it hard calling this stuff hardstyle.... it's more like Hard Trance than hard style. Shame about the bass is a bit overused on the Blutonium Label I mean it was canned A LOT on Dance Pollution so I like to hear something fresher, but not to discredit the tracks as I still like them.


http://germantrance.com/content/_rams/DIE013B.ram

Now this track I have bought although I do class it as the poorest of hardstyle productions. There are a few dodgy italian labels kickin about which seem to produce tracks which are purely samples of other hard tracks rearranged... and they definitly stand out. This one is a bit boring but I liked the vocals and thought it would be funny to go mad and scream this with the crowd when playing out.


Now I'm don't know my hardstyle inside out and have not gone to indepth with it but just thought I'd chuck this in for a debate!

edk
30-05-2003, 07:40 PM
firstly 3 of the tunes are in my box and i hadnt heard the last one before.

so from the top wildstyle generation, personally i prefer the tg mix, but this is what id call proper hardstyle dirty great big techno sound, no room for trance hear. this is a 100 % underground music due to it nastyness not for the faint of heart ! to raw for me personaly, although i think hardstyle needs more tunes like this. just an element of freshness about it but tunes like this are rare. 09/10 :D

the second tune phuture punkz is just the kinda thing that is pushing me away from hardstyle, nice sound that goes nowhere, and lacks originality, but compared to the previous track is a far more accessable sound, but just dont float me boat " one for the girls i think ???
05/10 :)

the 3rd track is my favourite of the four, but as hakka said owes a lot more to hardtrance than hardstyle, lacks the dirty techno sound and goes straight for the jugular, ignites the floor each and eveytime played but has a likeness to a tampon in the fact every c*~t has got it. still good though, dont care if aint original it works :D cant be pluggin the future all the time 8)
09.5/10 :D

the last track is kack to me, this aint hardstyle in aint hard trance, good enough production i guess but what is it all about, stuff like the this will only cause damage to a already volatile scene, but and theres always a but clubbers love this tripe by the bucket load ! why i have no idea nore do i care and i try my best to educate people away from this stuff :evil:
02/10 :evil:

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