ikea techno

[gunjack]

is it just me or does the so called "swedish invasion" sound an awful lot like a couple swedes trading bongo loops and compression? anybody ever notice drum code has pretty much the same loops in every record?

[marginmaster]

hmmm... :roll: well if there all the same they must all be good, because i like the ones i have purchased.

[SlavikSvensk]

is it just me or does the so called "swedish invasion" sound an awful lot like a couple swedes trading bongo loops and compression? anybody ever notice drum code has pretty much the same loops in every record?

so who would you include in this anyways? joel mull? for a while, his songs stood out through their use of melodies. cari lekebusch? he's never sounded like any of the other swedes from that group...alexi delano? again, completely different. the svek guys? minimal and house...not applicable.

so basically, "ikea techno," as you describe it, would be who? beyer, bacto, henrik b?

i agree that a lot of the records from that period are throwaways (countdown 2000 anyone?). but it's also a mistake to say all the swedes from that group.

besides, as americans, we should naturally fear mctechno more... ;)

[basslinejunkie]

lol ikeatechno and mctechno :lol:

[Stella Boy]

spanish sound :?:




oh god, I bit :doh: ---------->>>

[dirty_bass]

I got some lovely stuff by bacto, henrik, beyer and mull. Solid dancefloor stuff, some nice journey techno, some dark stuff.
Maybe it`s a bit samey now, but they did their bit.

[massplanck]

they did do their bit. well said.

[loopdon]

is it just me or does the so called "swedish invasion" sound an awful lot like a couple swedes trading bongo loops and compression? anybody ever notice drum code has pretty much the same loops in every record?


i know where you're coming from. but i suppose loads of peeps not as nerdy :crackup: about production as us lot wouldn't even notice.
back in those days, filesharing wasn't that big but now i suppose just about everybody has say the no kick series etc.

i have rediscovered so many loops i have on my hdd or cds in (famous) tunes it can be astonishing. this is a good situation for us as we can't get away with shit like that anymore, hehe.

coming to think about d'n'b which has centered around 1 well known break a great deal.... now that's really formulaistic ;)

[SlavikSvensk]

lol ikeatechno and mctechno :lol:

of course, i am born swedish, raised american, i guess i should fear/embrace both...

:bash:

[miles]

Is it just me or do you rate yourself highly?..
your records are mediocre...get over it!!

[massplanck]

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap:
:clap: Mhonolink - Funkshunz (Zync ) :clap:
:clap: Marco Carola - Fragile EP (Zenit) :clap:
:clap: Adam Beyer - Lost & Found EP (Conform) :clap:
:clap: Hardcell & Johan Bacto - Clips of Fear (Devils Choice) :clap:
:clap: Gaetano Parisio 19-99 (Drumcode) :clap:
:clap: Marco Carola & Adam Beyer - Fusion Frame EP (Zenit) :clap:
:clap: Adam Beyer - Remainings I Code Red :clap:
:clap: Mhonolink - Palmfieldsroad (Zync) :clap:
:clap: Johan Bacto - Mankind 4 :clap:
:clap: Joel Mull - Imagination (Inside) :clap:
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap:

[massplanck]

And if you look at it sideways its almost looks like he shape of someone giving the finger.

[SlavikSvensk]

it also kind of looks like an absolut bottle...absolut, ikea...very appropriate since we are discussing the damn-near-colonial swedish marketing prowess...

va bra min vann!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[SlavikSvensk]

and now...for my triumphant 1000th post...

...drum roll...

...JEFF MILLS!

:wtf:

[drift9]

is it just me or does the so called "swedish invasion" sound an awful lot like a couple swedes trading bongo loops and compression? anybody ever notice drum code has pretty much the same loops in every record?

kind of a generalizing statement. sort of like calling all american techno detroit techno, in a way. i feel what you're saying (and even to this extent i don't really agree with you) is not entirely representative of swedish techno.

anyhow--for my part--i love ikea for its affordable and for the most part well-made furniture. it also really fits the style i'm going with in my apt.

[drift9]

and now...for my triumphant 1000th post...

...drum roll...

...JEFF MILLS!

:wtf:

oh--and congrats seattle devil
:clap:

[gunjack]

Is it just me or do you rate yourself highly?..
your records are mediocre...get over it!!


dude, you have cut me to the quick! what ever shall i do?




seriously tho, do post your discography when you get a chance ok?
kissess! :cool:

[SlavikSvensk]

oh--and congrats seattle devil
:clap:

many thanks, brooklyn beelzebub!

[dirty_bass]

[quote=miles]
seriously tho, do post your discography when you get a chance ok?
kissess! :cool:

What does that mean?
Britney has released loads of records.
Does that mean she is the Don?
:love:

[SlavikSvensk]

What does that mean?
Britney has released loads of records.
Does that mean she is the Don?
:love:

these guys also have a large discography...

http://stat.discogs.com/A/14457-001.jpg

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Technotronic

[SlavikSvensk]

and these guys...

http://stat.discogs.com/A/4057-002.jpg

http://www.discogs.com/artist/2+Unlimited

[massplanck]

Jesus miles he really has you by the balls now.h
:shock:




Unless your surname is 'Davis'.... :lol:

[dirty_bass]

and these guys...

http://stat.discogs.com/A/4057-002.jpg

http://www.discogs.com/artist/2+Unlimited

These guys truly did have a huge effect on techno.
They are gods of techno.
Whenever some who doesn`t really know me asks about my label or what I do, and I mention techno, they immediatly get a glazed expression and mention 2 Unlimited.

Mills and everyone else can **** off, these guys are the Alpha and the Omega.

Rumour has it that surgeon and regis have them locked up in their basement in their lovers palace, and in fact 2 unlimited write and produce all their music.

It`s all an elborate facade.

[SlavikSvensk]

they are the power behind the assemble-it-yourself furniture...

[lau]

and these guys...

http://stat.discogs.com/A/4057-002.jpg

http://www.discogs.com/artist/2+Unlimited

*lau bows his head in shame*

[Bacchus]

here in canada we have a mento's commercial where a bunch of birds start Tweeting and Kwaking to "No Limit"

it's brilliant.

http://tubespot.com/index.php?spot=mentos-birds&bw=hi

check it.

[SlavikSvensk]

ace, man. i knew i liked canada for a reason...

...besides, few people are aware of the massive influence mentos had on the development of hard techno...and in particular, on swedish producers like adam beyer. it is said that this form of sample-based nordic techno is only possible under the freshest of circumstances...

[Bacchus]

ace, man. i knew i liked canada for a reason...

...besides, few people are aware of the massive influence mentos had on the development of hard techno...and in particular, on swedish producers like adam beyer. it is said that this form of sample-based nordic techno is only possible under the freshest of circumstances...


:lol:

[Heroes]

just back from the pub, forgive me but what a F***ng toss post, same old congo, ill give you a list of records if they soound like the same congo then ill give ya the number to a good ear specialist

[SlavikSvensk]

just back from the pub, forgive me but what a F***ng toss post, same old congo, ill give you a list of records if they soound like the same congo then ill give ya the number to a good ear specialist

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[eyes without a face]

just back from the pub, forgive me but what a F***ng toss post, same old congo, ill give you a list of records if they soound like the same congo then ill give ya the number to a good ear specialist

have to agree im afraid

pointless topic with slight jealous undertones im picking up..... They've done their bit Gunny, u shud just concentrate on doing ur's

[Numeric]

I really like Gunjacks work but some of his opinions are a bit dodgy as far as i'm concerned...

:lol:

[John Vella]

What a totally unproductive, insecure thread.....

:roll:

-j

[Kevin Gorman]

I totally agree with you Johnny

[Kevin Gorman]

I'm a fan of swedish music and I have to disagree with you deafmosaic. I find alot of your topics and posts unproductive and disrespectful. If you don't have anything nice to say about music, don't say anything at all. Sure everyone has there own taste in music, but what you said here was rude.

[The Overfiend]

:eh:
Why is there so much beef round here lately.

[orac]

:eh:
Why is there so much beef round here lately.

Every internet forum has this problem, I think it's natural.

I can't even imagine how could somebody start this silly topic. Dude ! Swedish producers are HUGE ! I personally don't really like Lekebusch ep's, but he's the biggest man in pushing techno forward there. And for God sake...Hernik B is also from sweden and...damn it I can't even find proper words !!! He has the most quality productions today, please don't even argue about that. And what about Skoog ?

lol this thread suxxx

[Bacchus]

[quote=SummerOfSam]:eh:

lol this thread suxxx

werd.

[Numeric]

And what about Skoog ?


Yeah, i was suprised that no-one mentioned Pat or Stef, two of Swedens finest in my opinion...

[The Divide]

Word

[dan the acid man]

http://tell.off.net/images/Word.jpg

[eyes without a face]

haha :lol:

[lau]

:shock: :shock: :shock:

WHOEHAHAHA :lol:

[gunjack]

dang you guys are serious! can't even see a pisstake in front of your nose!!! this is the second blatantly shit TALKING PISSTAKE THREAD I HAVE STARTED JUST TO SEE THE PAGECOUNT BLOW UP!

I MEAN SERIOUSLY, 15 PAGES ON THE REGIS SUX THREAD?!?!

anyway my asking for miles discography was meant to show the fact that him saying my music was crap has nothing to do with opinions on beyer, anyway do go on all. and btw, beyer still sux. :rambo:

[gunjack]

just back from the pub, forgive me but what a F***ng toss post, same old congo, ill give you a list of records if they soound like the same congo then ill give ya the number to a good ear specialist


yea but man, drumcodes do use alot of the same loops every time and if YOU cant hear that bro, then you better hold on to that doctors number. anyway, like i said LOOK AT THE PAGECOUNT FLY WOOHOO!!!

[SlavikSvensk]

yea but man, drumcodes do use alot of the same loops every time and if YOU cant hear that bro, then you better hold on to that doctors number. anyway, like i said LOOK AT THE PAGECOUNT FLY WOOHOO!!!

i gotta say, i'm much more inclined to think glenn knows what he's talking about here than you, seeing as how he has a history with adam and the other swedes at the very time in question, and you do not.

i do think that a lot of the drumcode (and other) records were designed in the same mold, and gor repetitive, but i seriously doubt they used the same loops.

but if you are confident enough that you are right, why not cite specific examples to people can judge for themselves?

[Joseph Isaac]

:clap: Adam Beyer - Lost & Found EP (Conform) :clap:
:clap: Hardcell & Johan Bacto - Clips of Fear (Devils Choice) :clap:
:clap: Adam Beyer - Remainings I Code Red :clap:
:clap: Johan Bacto - Mankind 4 :clap:
:clap: Joel Mull - Imagination (Inside) :clap:


Man all this shit is off is the ****ing hook!!

[loopdon]

yea but man, drumcodes do use alot of the same loops every time and if YOU cant hear that bro, then you better hold on to that doctors number. anyway, like i said LOOK AT THE PAGECOUNT FLY WOOHOO!!!

i gotta say, i'm much more inclined to think glenn knows what he's talking about here than you, seeing as how he has a history with adam and the other swedes at the very time in question, and you do not.

i do think that a lot of the drumcode (and other) records were designed in the same mold, and gor repetitive, but i seriously doubt they used the same loops.
but if you are confident enough that you are right, why not cite specific examples to people can judge for themselves?


i am pretty sure, deafmosaic is right there. i have heard certain loops esp. from say, nokick and techno trance essentials all over the place. i just started to look for those when i read a comment in another forum (usb schranz forum) by björn bommersheim (german producer) that one would have many a aha-moent when listening to both these sample-cds and the swedish sound of the drumcode era. and i can't find anythin wrong with that, back in the days not everybody had these cds. it's just now you can get them everywhere. i suppose, when they got something new then, they just gave it to their friends as well....er i mean they encouraged their fellow producers to buy these cds as well ;) :lol:

that's talking mainly about percussive loops wich surely made alot of that sound ....

[SlavikSvensk]

i have tons of drumcode records...and what i hear is several similar types of songs, not necessarily the same loops. with that evidence, i am more inclined to believe glenn, who has insider knowledge, than take the word of a couple people who do not.

but again, like i said...put the links up, or cite specific records...if it's that obvious, i will change my tune on that one...though only as far as the drumcode goes.

besides, what is implied here is that the entire body of work by swedish producers of that era can be boiled down to a conga loop, and that's just not true. maybe that's where the pisstake comes in...hope so, cuz it's a pretty daft statement if meant seriously. in how many tracks did cari lekebusch use ANY tribal loops? cari was been one of the most innovative and different producers of the mid-to-late 1990s, and his stuff just ain't tribal at all. his sh*t from those days is lightyears more innovative than virtually anything in hard techno today.

and for adam, what conga loop did he use in his records on svek or loop or rotation from that era?

what about alexi delano or jasper dahlback, who were making techno records at the time? were they using this master loop? hard to argue that one...

[massplanck]

I MEAN SERIOUSLY, 15 PAGES ON THE REGIS SUX THREAD?!?!



A few of us are very proud of that.

[SlavikSvensk]

i heard adam beyer drives a porsche...

[Mindful]

no way man he drives a skidoo

[dirty_bass]

I thought he rode a rare pategonian Yak.

[SlavikSvensk]

do they even have yaks in pategonia?

maybe it was a rodjur...native to sweden...

[Mirsha]

Some of the Drumcode tracks are really immense, I mean DC 20.5 is still highly playable and I still lamnet the fact some thieving bastard nicked 09 and 10 from me at a party four years ago. Drumcode 04 is still worthy, Brakastate still hs that lovely crunchy hat ride and Petting Me has that funky bassline. ANd lets not forget that a certain First Act by Arkus P has one of the key sounds which sounds remarkably like something ripped right out of the A1 of DC 05.

It does piss me off these days that I have so much DC's, simply as I started butying them when I was well into them and didn't have decks rthinking that by the time I got decks I'd have good records, little taking into factor that my musical style would have changed to wonky shizzle so I now have so little stuff to play that gets me hot, but lots of stuff which might actually go well together if I could be bothered to play it.

[dirty_bass]

do they even have yaks in pategonia?



yes, but they are very rare :lol:

[The Overfiend]

yea but man, drumcodes do use alot of the same loops every time and if YOU cant hear that bro, then you better hold on to that doctors number. anyway, like i said LOOK AT THE PAGECOUNT FLY WOOHOO!!!

i gotta say, i'm much more inclined to think glenn knows what he's talking about here than you, seeing as how he has a history with adam and the other swedes at the very time in question, and you do not.

i do think that a lot of the drumcode (and other) records were designed in the same mold, and gor repetitive, but i seriously doubt they used the same loops.
but if you are confident enough that you are right, why not cite specific examples to people can judge for themselves?


i am pretty sure, deafmosaic is right there. i have heard certain loops esp. from say, nokick and techno trance essentials all over the place. i just started to look for those when i read a comment in another forum (usb schranz forum) by björn bommersheim (german producer) that one would have many a aha-moent when listening to both these sample-cds and the swedish sound of the drumcode era. and i can't find anythin wrong with that, back in the days not everybody had these cds. it's just now you can get them everywhere. i suppose, when they got something new then, they just gave it to their friends as well....er i mean they encouraged their fellow producers to buy these cds as well ;) :lol:

that's talking mainly about percussive loops wich surely made alot of that sound ....
F*CK no kicks
I love loops no doubt, but i still belive you should only use em if you can program your own

[loopdon]

F*CK no kicks
I love loops no doubt, but i still belive you should only use em if you can program your own

i second that. i think this should be clear for self-respecting artist.

[Mirsha]

Shunsts your Reason loops into Ableton via Rewire so you can contorl each instrumenatl loop as you want.

[SlavikSvensk]

F*CK no kicks
I love loops no doubt, but i still belive you should only use em if you can program your own

i second that. i think this should be clear for self-respecting artist.

word. too much pre-fabricated, pre-packaged techno nowadays...

[Ritzi Lee]

and I still lamnet the fact some thieving bastard nicked 09 and 10 from me at a party four years ago.

Ouch!!! Those are the best from the whole collection.... :shock:

[gunjack]

aha, the circle is complete lol. ikea techno DOES exist. :lol:

[gunjack]

i have tons of drumcode records...and what i hear is several similar types of songs, not necessarily the same loops. with that evidence, i am more inclined to believe glenn, who has insider knowledge, than take the word of a couple people who do not.


dude why not trust your ears???? listen to those sample CDs and the speculation will be over! dude used alot o the same loops in code red and drumcode, i am just saying that while beyer may have had some rocking tunes, dude never really took any risks with the sounds, the audio content of his records... therefore the scope of "influence" is pretty narrow! its funny to see boxes and boxes of drumcode represses sitting around when i go to japan too, what is it with folks like beyer, andevern the detroit boys for example, who think that tokyo alone can generate sales of 3000 on represses that folks had 2 or 3 years before?! but i got mad respect for submerge selling more than 2000 CDRs(!) of underground mix CDs and albums etc. through japanese mail order! anyway back to the topic, beyer: ikea techno? or "influence" of "no kick techno trance essentials"? ;)

[gunjack]

man can we get a f*cking edit button on here for chrissake????????? also THIS BOARD SUCKS BRECAUSE: are we little children? cencorship is so dorky. F U C K: get over the concept of "virgin ears" you CUNTS because this board is as goody goody as NED F UCKING FLANDERS.


LIVE A LITTLE YOU GOODY GOODY "STALLWARTS"

[marginmaster]

:doh: i love you too gunny :love: :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

dude why not trust your ears???? listen to those sample CDs and the speculation will be over! dude used alot o the same loops in code red and drumcode, i am just saying that while beyer may have had some rocking tunes, dude never really took any risks with the sounds, the audio content of his records... therefore the scope of "influence" is pretty narrow!

i have, and what i hear is some similar sounding records on drumcode...not the same loop. but like i said, post some links and let people decide for themselves.

as for him never sounding different, i'm assuming, then, you've never heard conceiled project pattern 1-4 on svek or stocktown city on rotation or slang on loop...

[RDR]

man can we get a f*cking edit button on here for chrissake????????? also THIS BOARD SUCKS BRECAUSE: are we little children? cencorship is so dorky. F U C K: get over the concept of "virgin ears" you CUNTS because this board is as goody goody as NED F UCKING FLANDERS.


LIVE A LITTLE YOU GOODY GOODY "STALLWARTS"

I never touched the virgins ears. which one of you bastards said i did????

As for this argument - who the hell cares? i like music that makes me dance, if it comes from sweden, then so be it. I actually like swedish meat balls too - simple but well produced and fun to consume.
Not exactly everyone's favourite food stuff, but it still rocks when you are hungry. Im sure there is some tripe come out of sweden, or other nordic countries, but when i heard it i didnt buy it. its like that argument about porn on TV, if you dont like it switch off.

-ve is definately not a +ve.

[SlavikSvensk]

I actually like swedish meat balls too - simple but well produced and fun to consume.


they are fantastic when done right...

[gunjack]

you know how to do sweedish meat BALLS right i bet. anyway, you must be deaf or have no ear for critical listening because those drumcode, code red records have LOTS of the same percussion loops in the beyer releases, maybe ask glenn for the number of that ear specialist.

as for posting links?! even i had the time, convincing you is not exactly the high point on my list of shit to do today, you already have somebody i don't even know telling you it's true and showing you exactly where to find the loops, dude even has "plugin don" under his name, what more do you want? if the integrity of your beloved idol is important enough to you to back him up so hard, why nor investigate the truth yourself?

that fool used sample CDs and obviously at that, and you kids are so blinded by a "swedish revolution" that you can't see the simple truth.

cari l. has done way more for techno than adam b. man, but hype don't lways equal innovation eh?

[loopdon]

after all, i think umek is the samplecdiest :lol: of them all. remember his voices of africa series, someone. ****, i almost cried :lol: when i got the sample cds of the same name. at least he didn't try to hide it.
in this german magazine, called raveline, they were always rambling on about iso-drumloops used by umek, long before i even knew what they ment. one record from sims i know has been not much more than a (pumped up) drumloop/percloop from a cd, too. i think it was techno t. essentials, too, or voices of africa, dunno. just couldn't believe it?!
i mean, not even trying to disguise it???

and, i know i have told this before, but i still find it amazing that chris liebing used the entire loops from a kit on techno trance essentials for his 'sunglasses at night mix' for tiga. i couldn't believe anybody could be so bland, but nevermind. i could go on for ever, but i think the point is clear.

and this entire ramble from me whas mainly about percloops which are pretty distinguishable, don't even want to know how many people resort to prefabbed (pure) kick loops and stuff.

but who else but us freaks would know, or even bother? :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

you know how to do sweedish meat BALLS right i bet. anyway, you must be deaf or have no ear for critical listening because those drumcode, code red records have LOTS of the same percussion loops in the beyer releases, maybe ask glenn for the number of that ear specialist.

as for posting links?! even i had the time, convincing you is not exactly the high point on my list of shit to do today, you already have somebody i don't even know telling you it's true and showing you exactly where to find the loops, dude even has "plugin don" under his name, what more do you want? if the integrity of your beloved idol is important enough to you to back him up so hard, why nor investigate the truth yourself?

that fool used sample CDs and obviously at that, and you kids are so blinded by a "swedish revolution" that you can't see the simple truth.

cari l. has done way more for techno than adam b. man, but hype don't lways equal innovation eh?

when did i idolize adam beyer? didn't i say, like 3 or 4 times, that i don't particularly like drumcode records?? that i think a lot of them sound too similar, and were cookie-cutter?? i guess you didn't have time to read those either. that's fine, but maybe you should next time before opening your mouth and flaming someone who just disagreed with you. maybe that bothers you? do you really think you are that important?

and do you really think this post is about innovation? it's about direction. i don't think mainstream techno today is innovative, and whatever your, my, or anyone else's opinions on adam beyer's records as music, i sort of see the drumcode records as at least partially responsible for that. does that seem like i'm f***ing idolizing him? maybe YOU should check the ear specialist, the one Glenn offered to YOU, and ask if they also offer courses on "reading for comprehension."

[SlavikSvensk]

yarg..."this post..." i am actually referring to the adam beyer post, not this one.

besides, man...i have never disrespected you or your music, and will continue not to...just treat me with respect back, aiight?

[eyes without a face]

i think the post has gone pretty much the way gunny wanted, caused a ruck, kicked up some shit about the Swede's thats didnt really need kicking up, and got to say his piece... so congrats....

and i thought i was being anal for my schranz bashing.... :roll: :lol:

[RDR]

i thought i was being anal :


just for the record this had nothing to do with me and the virgins.


BTW - im treating this thread with the yawning contempt it deserves.


-ve is NOT +ve

why do people keep getting this confused


AS for the sample CD thing? **** it - i really dont give a ****. i have a vast library of samples, if you are a good enough producer you'll recognise what is useable and what is not, you'll also ahve the brains to warp what needs warping and leave well enough alone what doesnt.

Now if ya wanna argue about using things that have been premade - lets talk MIDI files, or generic riffs, or using ANYTHING at all from the past....

its pointless bitching about samples, it serves no purpose. congrats to those who use em properly, congrats to those who dont. if the music is good enough i really couldnt care less.

so poo.

;) ;)

[Stella Boy]

if the music is good enough i really couldnt care less

Ahmen !

[SlavikSvensk]

all right, all right. scott, you take the high road. i let myself get goaded...but maybe you were trying to do that and are laughing now, gunjack?

:oops:

anyways, sorry i lost my cool...rough last couple of days...we'll just have to agree to disagree about the "influence" of adam beyer, or even what influence means, eh? ;)

[gunjack]

man, i am just saying, techno aint the end all and be all of everything you guys. lighten up, beyond the smoke and mirrors is just some kids making beats like the rest of us. eat your heroes.

[Mindful]

you should call your next E.P. Hero eater

[SlavikSvensk]

man, i am just saying, techno aint the end all and be all of everything you guys. lighten up, beyond the smoke and mirrors is just some kids making beats like the rest of us. eat your heroes.

aiight...we good, then! :)

but, just to note, adam beyer ain't my hero. not even my favorite swedish producer. that's cari lekesbusch, because he's gone against the grain so often, and cause i think the mr. barth records were amazing...but i really don't like most of the h-productions records from 2000-2004, so...

...all my favorite producers have made some sh***y records at some point or another...

mainly

[SlavikSvensk]

uh...ignore the word "mainly."

[gunjack]

you should call your next E.P. Hero eater


gunjack collectors series 003 "eat your heroes" has been sold out for a month. ;)

[eyes without a face]

we shud do a joint ep called "We all bone swedish techno" ep

:lol:

[loopdon]

this is a serious place, innit? talking about dance music like we were at university.

after all, if you like it you like it. can we leave it at that?

or shall we go on forever???

i wonder if them swedes lost so much time talking about other peoples' stuff :?:

[loopdon]

man, i am just saying, techno aint the end all and be all of everything you guys. lighten up, beyond the smoke and mirrors is just some kids making beats like the rest of us. eat your heroes.

[SlavikSvensk]

this is a serious place, innit? talking about dance music like we were at university.

after all, if you like it you like it. can we leave it at that?

or shall we go on forever???

i wonder if them swedes lost so much time talking about other peoples' stuff :?:

nah, i think we all cool now...

[Mindful]

you should call your next E.P. Hero eater


gunjack collectors series 003 "eat your heroes" has been sold out for a month. ;)

:doh: sounds cool got any left?

[Mindful]

:lol:

[basslinejunkie]

man, i am just saying, techno aint the end all and be all of everything you guys. lighten up, beyond the smoke and mirrors is just some kids making beats like the rest of us. eat your heroes.

exactly!

[dirty_bass]

what do heroes have to do with influence?
We all influence each other.
It has nothing to do with idolatry.
You just fuming cos you don`t have nice cars and expensive chicks like beyer and his boys :cool:

[massplanck]

man, i am just saying, techno aint the end all and be all of everything you guys. lighten up, beyond the smoke and mirrors is just some kids making beats like the rest of us. eat your heroes.

Thistrue but is proabably something that should have been pointed out to you not us at the start of the thread.

;)

[gunjack]

what do heroes have to do with influence?
We all influence each other.
It has nothing to do with idolatry.
You just fuming cos you don`t have nice cars and expensive chicks like beyer and his boys :cool:


mang, play devils advocate all you want, but folks tend to emulate what they respect. as for cars n chics, i am werkin on it k????

and massplank: pfffft.

[massplanck]

and massplank: pfffft.

and Deafmosaic: gggggnnnnshhhhh bing bong cop on

[audioinjection]

:lol: