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MARKEG
05-07-2003, 06:09 AM
Someone please tell me what this is all about. I don't speak German, I haven't got a clue what it means but perhaps it's something to do with the compilation series. Oh yeah, and it's obviously something to do with 'hard' music.

I've heard people describe their music as Schranz..

What the hell is this all about!!!?????

Esox Lucius
05-07-2003, 08:58 AM
wasn`t it just a word chris liebing used to describe his music, then when everyone started calling it that he got pissed off anjd said it was techno what he played.

think it was something like that.

miromiric.
05-07-2003, 11:22 AM
he made up that word with his friend in some record shop to describe his hard cold music. thats it.

Pathogen
05-07-2003, 11:30 AM
yeah thats right techfunk02, was used to describe a certain sound on techno tracks ... sposed to mean like a shredding sound ...

this is of chris's site.

Since there has been a lot of talk about the word "Schranz" lately, I wanted to post my very own statement about it and not one,which is written by people who don`t really know.Yes, it is true, together with a friend I came up with the word "Schranz" in a Recordstore in Frankfurt in the year 1994. Not true is, that I am now annoyed by the term, I am only annoyed by all the discussions which come up about it, especially here in Germany.Everyone who uses the word "Schranz" to describe her or his musical taste or even way of living, shall do so and I think that is completely o.k..

Basically I like to call what I spin and produce "Techno" and in general "electronic Music".For me personally, since that day in 1994, "Schranz" is a description for various dark and distorted
sounds in Techno. At that point I couldn`t come up with a better word, but of course then I also didn`t know, that one day it would become so popular. I don`t want to and I can`t tell anyone how and where to use the word and in what respect. That´s CLAU 04 was called :"Call it what you want..."

So be tolerant, make up your own mind about it and don`t believe everything which is written in magazines.

Chris Liebing, April 2002

DJZeMig_L
05-07-2003, 01:14 PM
I was in Germany not long ago and from what I figure is that it's basically Hard techno which is composed almost solely of drum sounds, or other distorted stuff which is then used almost like drums... It is "cold" (who is 2 say what is cold !?!)... also generally dark, fast ... very mechanical like sounding... the groove is very straight ...
I've also heard some1 say music for marching (just like a soldier)...

:P

Don't like it much although I did have tracks on Shrazwerk 5 and 8!!

Z

TripleX
05-07-2003, 08:03 PM
best example for schranz sound is chris liebing´s stigmata series;
hard evil pounding techno :twisted:

Spark
06-07-2003, 02:35 AM
Schranz/Hardtechno is for me the best way of techno..

MARKEG
06-07-2003, 04:34 AM
thanx pathogen/mig - that's cleared that up nicely.

but don't you think it's a totally stupid name?

to a stupid yorkshire bloke like me it sound like a daft marketing ploy that doesn't even have any appeal whatsoever.

only my opinion.

why not just stick with 'hard techno'?

miromiric.
06-07-2003, 10:16 AM
eh i guess its a slang. like we here for hard hard techno say pegla which is iron. when someone is playing really hard he is ironing! *gggg*



http://free-zg.htnet.hr/ibauman2/pegla.jpg

Adverse
06-07-2003, 12:50 PM
LOL

TripleX
06-07-2003, 03:12 PM
but don't you think it's a totally stupid name?

to a stupid yorkshire bloke like me it sound like a daft marketing ploy that doesn't even have any appeal whatsoever.

only my opinion.

why not just stick with 'hard techno'?

it´s a stupid name that´s for sure, ravers here in germany call almost everything schranz, even beyer, umek etc...
most people use the word to be cool, i guess, to prettend to have clue about music...i dunno,
too me it´s commercial bullsh!t :roll:, it´s all techno 8)

DJZeMig_L
07-07-2003, 12:38 AM
Tags r buls*** but eventually we end up needing it :shock:

i mean Even the forum is sorta split up...

Still I think German techno (if there is such a thing) as a slight different flava so just maybe it needs a tag... why not just simply German Hard Techno !?!?

what ever... as some1 once said Luv it or leave it! :wink:

Z

gunjack
07-07-2003, 01:49 AM
this word "shranz" is utter shite. it is disgusting the way it is used.

miromiric.
07-07-2003, 01:54 AM
is it just jut me or u re all full of poo-poo? :roll:

MARKEG
07-07-2003, 10:01 AM
it's just you

:twisted:

ripped
07-07-2003, 10:07 AM
where I live and try to spin, alot dont speak much english. if I tell em I play hard techno they could think I'm talking hardcore or hardstyle. If I say banging techno they wouldn't have a clue what I'm talking about.

so what's wrong with schranz, it's just an expression? it's what you make of it.. at least if I say my style is schranz the chances are they'll think it's noisy, hard + bangin. even last friday I finally got a gig and on the flyer I was supposed play hardstyle! I started with slobodan and those teeny raver hardstlyers looked at me like I'm an alien, cos they were expecting hardstyle. in the future I will say I play schranz to non-english speakers..

crime
07-07-2003, 10:53 AM
in the future I will say I play schranz to non-english speakers..

why not just say you play MUSIC?

Jimfish
07-07-2003, 11:01 AM
:wink:

Pathogen
07-07-2003, 11:06 AM
why not just simply German Hard Techno !?!?

thats what i call it, well 'german techno'.... shranz dont exisit in my head ... its techno, plain n simple :evil:
its an odd word and when i have bounced it round mates, theyre thinkin its some new kind of trance ........ so i dunno, i dont think the word means much over here in blighty ........ more of a german/europe thang me thinks..... :wink:

think this sums it up ....... 8)
"I'm not Schranz, I don't know what the word means! I don't understand this word. I'm energy baby, Pure Energy" -Major Rush-

davethedrummer
07-07-2003, 12:23 PM
wow somone came up with a new word!
i'm totally bowled over!!!

hahahahahahahahaa

schranz !!!! hahahahahaha
for ****s sake!!!!!

o.k. i think i'll call my music "clop" from now on

( yes it true i came up with the word "clop" whilst musing over some particularly interesting drum patterns and discovered they formed a kind of "clopping" rythm when........)oh **** off!!!!!!please!!!!!!

crime
07-07-2003, 12:46 PM
I'm going to Jump start the burgeoning new "Death Garage" scene..

ripped
07-07-2003, 12:54 PM
@ crime - lol, I meant german or swiss german that dont speak much english.

schranz is a german word/expression ,so it doesn't really apply to people who dont speak german.

on a funnier note, alot of swiss call hard techno "detroit" so maybe one of you professionals should open a techno school-academy in switzerland to clear things up :wink:

TripleX
07-07-2003, 01:13 PM
the worts thing is the pronounciation, say " schranz" ten times in a row and you´ll probably barf :lol:

death on a stick
07-07-2003, 01:21 PM
if you say it right the word schranz can sound just like trance. depending on the pronounciation and accents used, of course.

Pathogen
07-07-2003, 02:35 PM
the worts thing is the pronounciation, say " schranz" ten times in a row and you´ll probably barf :lol:

lol, schranz, schranz, schranz,schranz, schranz, schranz, schranz, schranz, schranz, schranz .................. BLURRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGG :?
yeah, that works ........ better than stickin ya fingers down ya throat, perhaps a good one to remember when ya feelin fragged after a night on the beers, lol

Angrymann
07-07-2003, 04:31 PM
Don't see the problem with it myself. The boy is just using it to describe his sound , which is fair enough. Schranz to me doesn't sound cool but it certainly doesn't annoy me.

In the end he does have a fairly unique sound , not saying it's a style of it's own , but you will always know a Liebing tune ( that can be both a good and a bad thing). No harm in the guy having a wee name for it really , he's not telling everyone else that they should be naming their style Schranz aswell.

There is always going to be different sub genres in Techno. If someone asks you what music you like and you say Techno , they will always follow it up with " What kind" and then you have to explain it. You can't just say techno , cause it is one of the most varied styles of music going.

I don't think it is anything to do with commercialism either as Techno will never ever be commercial , although I do think it is becoming more "popular".

DJZeMig_L
08-07-2003, 12:54 AM
spot on!!

Z

Adverse
08-07-2003, 01:36 AM
wow somone came up with a new word!
i'm totally bowled over!!!

hahahahahahahahaa

schranz !!!! hahahahahaha
for **** sake!!!!!

o.k. i think i'll call my music "clop" from now on

( yes it true i came up with the word "clop" whilst musing over some particularly interesting drum patterns and discovered they formed a kind of "clopping" rythm when........)oh **** off!!!!!!please!!!!!!

hahahahaha i love clop!

DJAmok
09-07-2003, 03:59 AM
The Liebing text pretty much sums it up, but there´s more to the word.

When I started listening to techno, the Word "Schranz" had just started to be used in the Frankfurt Area, and no one really knew what it was. Back then I couldn´t tell Liebing from Sven Väth, but on that fateful night, when I was in the U60311 and I had my first E... I knew what "Schranz" was. ...well at least I thought I did, actually I didn´t know shit, but that´s about the point most people who use the word are at. The word itself in german has a strange sort of dynamics, kind of like the Word "Scheiße" (s hit), which can be used for pretty much everything; positive or negative. Kinda like f*ck in english.

Nowadays hardly anyone used the word Schranz anymore to describe their music, because it is no longer considered cool. Then again, at least when you say "Schranz", everyone knowsyou mean hard banging german techno. Personally.. I don´t really give a Schranz :roll: :wink:

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