MAX MSP

[The Divide]

Question. Its a basic one, how do you create boxes (macros?) to put your objects in?

*edit solved*

Hold Crtl + /and click on the put port and rename

[The Divide]

Got it

[mattboyslim]

famcy posting a few 'getting started' tips on here. i wana get into it, but i really cant be doing with working through the manual

[Basil Rush]

Dude - if you're getting into Max then give me a shout sometime, I've done a couple of things but stopped but I'd love someone to bounce ideas off ... it's fabulous thing but sometimes it can be a real head scratcher...

[mattboyslim]

i wana design a bass drum plug-in. i understand the technicals behind how the synth engine will work, but i don't know how to get it all into max, and get it to become an audio unit, or vst at the end result

[The Divide]

Hi all, long time no speak baz

Im currently building a random midi sequencer, nothing too flash at the moment, only had it running for a week or so. I will share the final version, its intended on triggering hardware and i should be able to export all the miidi files although I am told theres a way of using MSP patches in cubase using pluggo. No idea how easy that is tho

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/temp/MSP_IIIATHEMATX%20V1.2.JPG

Re getting started (try these)...

www.thedivide.co.uk/temp/MAX_EXAMPLES.rar

Matboy I followed those and then started from a blank canvas, the manuals are good but also every object comes with a very useful help file. I must admit it takes a long time to figure lots of it tho. If your good at logic systems it helps, with me I think been a reaktor user helped a lot. Also theres a shit load of tutorials that come with it. You can also steal objects from the help filez by unlocking them and cut and pasting them into your creation

Currently I’m having a problem with hanging notes when and I want a midi reset button. Going to have a read in the manual now, I think it’s a the midi flush module
:crackup:

[The Divide]

BTW I like the idea of a kick drum plugin. Would it be using pure synthesis or samples? Or a bit of both

[TechMouse]

BTW I like the idea of a kick drum plugin. Would it be using pure synthesis or samples? Or a bit of both

I think Dirty Bass posted up a load of free VSTi's focussing on individual drum sounds a while back. They might be in the free VST plugin thread? They looked quite phat. I haven't had a chance to check 'em out yet.

[The Divide]

Cool, but Im more looking for MSP or Reaktor systems as the sky is the limit

[The Divide]

So far using some maths algorhythms I took these...

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20MATH%20BANG%201.JPG

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20MATH%20BANG%202.JPG

To this

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20IIIATHEMATIX%205.mp3

:shock:

Gotta love this software

[detfella]

quality sounds fern :)

would like to see a golden ratio spiral mapped out in the detonator!

[The Divide]

quality sounds fern :)

would like to see a golden ratio spiral mapped out in the detonator!

Its on the 'to do list' if I can figure out how

[mattboyslim]

yeah was thinking fully synthesised. but as far as starting in msp, well its a whole new ball game for me.

cheers for the link tho man. i'll get in it

[The Divide]

Have a look in your root directory and you should find all the documentation and the tutorials in there. If not I have them here...

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20DOCUMENTAION.rar + some other stuff I found on the uni computers

[The Divide]

As much as I would like to share this im not going to untill its complete. Should be able to run it as astand alone .exe or maybe run it in cubase (not sure). Heres the progress so far hehe

Got it trigger external kit, couple of examples here

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20IIIATHEMATIX%206%20New%20Math.mp3

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20IIIATHEMATIX%207.mp3

and the interface so far


http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20MATH%20BANG%207.JPG

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20MATH%20BANG%206.JPG

[The Divide]

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/MSP/MSP%20IIIATHEMATIX%208.mp3

just jamming with it at the moment, thought I would share it. Its actually behaving a bit strange and excuse the timing of the chord switching as im doing it by mouse click oooops. Definitely going to use it for some weirdness

[The Divide]

Very pleased with this now, makes some nice melodies, only thing is its appearance, anyone up for making me a skin?

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/IIIATH1.jpg :lol:

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/iiiath/IIIATHMSP.mp3

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/iiiath/IIIATHMSP2.mp3

If your curious how it works I will tell you it is it has no step sequencer and all the midi in does is transposes the root key value of load of algebraic equations. To change the patterns you edit it the maths parameters on the fly controlled over the QUERTY, I will share it when I have turned it into a vsti

[mattboyslim]

looks hot mate. heres what i need to do...

i need a sine oscillator (i assume thats [cycle~] on msp) and noise as the sound sources.
they need to be routed through very fast attack-decay envelopes (2 line~s ??) and the noise through a lo pass filter

i need to control the osc frequency with a very fast envelope aswell

i want the frequnecy to drop from 150 to 30hz very quickly, and have short amplitude envelopes

so....how do i get started in msp with that?

[danielmarshall]

I'm a reaktor user, but I've been tempted to have a look into MSP. Are they very similar? I'd like the ability to be able to script stuff and write my own modules/ design customised GUIs in a C++ API, but I guess I may be a little optimistic there.

[Basil Rush]

I think you can write your own modules for Reaktor 5 now, but Max definitely lets you write your own libraries and comes with full documentation and stuff for it.

[The Divide]

I think you can write your own modules for Reaktor 5

Wow i didnt know that

Max is more powerfull but reakor is easier to use and implement I think. Once you understand the logical systems in reaktor it makes msp more easier tho. Reaktor is a bad ass machine

[danielmarshall]

Another feature on my wish list would be a module to control a VST through Reaktor itself. Think of the possibilities!

[stjohn]

my lecturer pretty much told me i have to learn MAX MSP to get a good mark in my Thesus, so ill have to dive into it soon enough. is it easy to get going???

[The Divide]

Its not too bad if you follow the tutorials, the manuals a beast but there is help files for every module

[danielmarshall]

Certainly allot better than the soldering iron and breadboard alternative. Kraftwerk style!

[The Divide]

:lol:

[Basil Rush]

I think you can write your own modules for Reaktor 5

Wow i didnt know that

Max is more powerfull but reakor is easier to use and implement I think. Once you understand the logical systems in reaktor it makes msp more easier tho. Reaktor is a bad ass machine

yeah - it's a lot easier to knock something up in Reaktor and till you bang up against one of it's limitations it's wicked.

But in Max you can do anything, unfortunately flexibility seems to come at a price.

[The Divide]

Ok I have managed to make it run as standalone...

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/iiiath/iiiath.JPG

This ones for the uber geeks

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/iiiath/DJF-IP2.rar

[The Divide]

List of Keyboard Controls

1 Loop Disable 9 + Division @ Reverse Math
2 Loop 1 Note 0 - Division R Record to Detonate
3 Loop 2 Notes - Double Speed P Play Recorded Sequence
4 Loop 4 Notes = Half Speed S Stop Recorded Sequence
5 Loop 8 Notes [ Loop Coll Esc
6 Loop 16 Notes ] Loop Off
7 Loop 32 Notes Ent Collect Loop into Rand

[The Divide]

P.S I cant be bothered explaining it right now

Just press all the buttons

Make sure you switch that edit switch upwards to allow the midi to go to the devices

Curious to know if it even works

Cheers

Dan

[xfive]

Crikey
It works using the m$ output device.. but as soon as I try and use my midi interface, and hit play it only plays one note instead of looping like it does on the m$ device

you nutter

[The Divide]

does it? sheeeeet

I will have to check that out, so basically it doesnt work with any other output other than the Microsoft built in GM thing? Do you have max installed as I have just been today that it won’t work as standalone afterall

Only tested it on max machines so far

[xfive]

hmm nope I don't have max installed.

[The Divide]

Sweet :D

I had an argument with a member of staff at the uni today as he said it was impossible to make max patches open without it installed

Hey i will look into that bug, thanks for testing it

When this is finished I should get it working in cubase (proving you have pluggo installed) and I will keep adding stuff to it

[xfive]

haha that's the point of the standalone Max libraries/executibles.... sounds like your guy is a bit off his rocker hehe