The Divide
05-08-2003, 01:58 AM
Does anyone know how to make a kick sound realy nasty like a hardcore kick drum. Where do you get you kicks from??. Do you always import them direct into your sequencer. Do you have them Rewired say thro SX or fruity loops?? Sure we all know chuck some distortion on them compress them should do what I am looking for but it seems I can spend hours doing just that and never get a kicks to sound as nasty as I want it. I also think perhaps its not realy the compression that makes the kinda kicks I am looking for. I find compression makes the kick tight, gives it a lil click or punch and shapes the body of it nicely, souds great and very techno, but not what I am after. Can you over compress a Kick???
For me I do this, normally layer up my kicks (upto 3) and have each one hitting a differant frequencies using EQ. This will be a loop in SX. Then I will make a group track and stick wav hammer/VST dynamics on it and sometimes L2 ultramaxiser, and tweak. This will then got to thro channel 1 on the mackie and is normally grouped with bass coing thro that channel (but it gets a bit crowded). This all goes into a DXB 266xl, I also find it sounds more extreame with the auto button down on the attack and decay on that. I dont use all this at once, then to switch them around too, so some kicks are going to the group and some are just coming out the same channel but not on actaully in the group. If you know what I mean.
I use Antares tube on some of the kicks indivually, sometimes quadra fuzz/ Vst distortion. Sometimes I wont got from working on the kicks for hours and it can realy frustrating. Some dodgy Canadian geeza told me to eq a lil spike in the low at about 45hz and moving it around, that can work a treat on realy bassy kicks.
I think its the sounds I am using too, perhaps a more synthesised kick drum would be better. Allot of distortion normally has me eqing out some of the top end as I get a hiss. I wold like to try inserting a guitar distortion pedal onto channel one and see what that sounds like. hehehe :twisted: . Hardware distortion can sound amazing I find. I am thinking warm and realy rounded sounding. Not too biongy. I was well into hardcore techno, the kicks they used where amazing!!!! Also very hard. Sometimes I hear those same stlye of kicks apear in techno, normally Paul Damage dj sets. :twisted: :twisted:
Does anyone have any hints or tips?? Or do i talk shite :twisted: hehehehe...
For me I do this, normally layer up my kicks (upto 3) and have each one hitting a differant frequencies using EQ. This will be a loop in SX. Then I will make a group track and stick wav hammer/VST dynamics on it and sometimes L2 ultramaxiser, and tweak. This will then got to thro channel 1 on the mackie and is normally grouped with bass coing thro that channel (but it gets a bit crowded). This all goes into a DXB 266xl, I also find it sounds more extreame with the auto button down on the attack and decay on that. I dont use all this at once, then to switch them around too, so some kicks are going to the group and some are just coming out the same channel but not on actaully in the group. If you know what I mean.
I use Antares tube on some of the kicks indivually, sometimes quadra fuzz/ Vst distortion. Sometimes I wont got from working on the kicks for hours and it can realy frustrating. Some dodgy Canadian geeza told me to eq a lil spike in the low at about 45hz and moving it around, that can work a treat on realy bassy kicks.
I think its the sounds I am using too, perhaps a more synthesised kick drum would be better. Allot of distortion normally has me eqing out some of the top end as I get a hiss. I wold like to try inserting a guitar distortion pedal onto channel one and see what that sounds like. hehehe :twisted: . Hardware distortion can sound amazing I find. I am thinking warm and realy rounded sounding. Not too biongy. I was well into hardcore techno, the kicks they used where amazing!!!! Also very hard. Sometimes I hear those same stlye of kicks apear in techno, normally Paul Damage dj sets. :twisted: :twisted:
Does anyone have any hints or tips?? Or do i talk shite :twisted: hehehehe...