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Conan
26-04-2006, 01:27 AM
Mills now has a wrench set, rally jackets and driving gloves in the axis merchandise range. There's no direct link just check the new releases in the shop section.

www.axisrecords.com

Money, money, money !!

kev
26-04-2006, 01:38 AM
hmmm $£$ $£$ $£$ $ £$ $ $
L
O

schlongfingers
26-04-2006, 01:58 AM
hahah axis beach sandals

holotropik
26-04-2006, 08:48 AM
Well, that is what a lot of artists are doing in order to make a quid in an industry that isnt making money selling tunes as most music is pirate. It goes undere the banner of value adding or diversification....

I would have bought a Rally jacket & gloves back in the days when I used to race....hehehe....cool.

Buttman
26-04-2006, 10:02 AM
Haha I would never use American steel wrenches. They would break in a week.
Only Finnish/German steel tools are usable.
Good idea nevertheless... But he forgot to write what diameters the wrenches are.

So what is the story? Jeff has gotten into Nascar?

Miromiric
26-04-2006, 10:15 AM
how about swedish steel? volvo is the only car i would drive in on highways .

Si the Sigh
26-04-2006, 10:17 AM
Safe...

holotropik
26-04-2006, 10:18 AM
Wouldnt buy the wrenches either as they would only fit US made junk and not any of the cars in the rest of the world .

koma
26-04-2006, 10:29 AM
frederic gave me this little axis newsletter back in 2003 and there was an advert for this sandals
ok, i was a bit "wtf" but then again hehe why not :cheese:

same thing going on in other music styles for years
when you dont get enough money from music
you invest in something else
whats wrong with that??

you can always remember catalogues 10 years ago in every ID&T cd too
with bunch of merchandise, mainly shirts, lighters, caps...
things you use every day

The Overfiend
26-04-2006, 10:29 AM
Largest size is an L?
What a jip.

RDR
26-04-2006, 10:41 AM
Largest size is an L?
What a jip.

:lol:

:oops:

conflict
26-04-2006, 11:23 AM
is he not allowed to market his own brand then?

big deal

Buttman
26-04-2006, 12:27 PM
There are Plus8 condoms.

Luka: Volvo are great cars but they are not made of Swedish materials.

Buttman
26-04-2006, 12:34 PM
http://www.volvocars.se/NR/rdonlyres/6ED8B6CF-A059-4F78-871D-1B5BA4EFE16F/0/xc90_Ext_604x314_05.jpg

:thumbsup:

Though I think I will buy this one:
http://www.volvocars.se/NR/rdonlyres/A19D70B7-45DA-45E3-8492-9362CE605C01/0/S80_Ext_604x314_03.jpg


And of course:
http://www.1000ps.at/images/gt1000.jpg

dirty_bass
26-04-2006, 01:11 PM
yeah yeah, man needs to earn and crust and that.
But I dunno, after all his philosophical waffle he comes out with, this just stinks of blatant capitalism.
Horrible horrible merchandising.

When will we get the jeff mills computer game?
Run around detroit, finding gigs in the old days.
enter the warehouse, see how many copies of the bells you can keep spinning at once.
Fight off any competition by re-releasing the same record again and again and again.
End of level boss is dave clark, who you have to out poncify in a most pretencious interview competition.
Weapon bonuses: 909. 909. 909 and a 808.

Buttman
26-04-2006, 01:39 PM
good one ;)

conflict
26-04-2006, 01:52 PM
i still dont see the big deal

bunch of pussies

Conan
26-04-2006, 04:53 PM
Well it's not a big deal its just a bit funny that Mills a very serious and philosophical techno producer now has a wide range of merchandise. Pencil sets, wrenches, sandles and gloves etc.... There is definitley something funny their, or maybe this will all be needed when we move to mars and all this stuff will be vital when we get there?

And don't give me that bollox about him making a crust! The chap gets nearly 7 grand sterling to play in some places so he's not strapped for cash. I'm not complaining about that and fair play to him and i know he probably wants to expand the brand but all this merchandise is a little overkill IMO. Maybe if he was more concerned with the quality of his tracks and his mixes this wouldn't be problem but from what I can see his focus has changed a little that's all.

He drops stings of life, the bells and nights of the jaguar nearly every night and gets good money to do it. I would feel like I was cheeting people if i was doing that. I know thats what some people want from Mills but fuk that I'd make sure I was keeping my sets fresh as possible for that money.

Again I want to say that I'm a huge fan of Mills' but loyalty can only last so long when what you like him for is slowly dissapearing. The sets of his i've seen have been dubious and his last decent record was .................. a good while ago considering how much average music he's put out.

This is his new purpose maker release, would be interesting to see what you think of this.......... take into consideration all the other purpose makers that have been releases as well.

http://www.covert.uk.com/choons.cfm?choon=25549

mattboyslim
26-04-2006, 05:26 PM
sounds like typical purpose maker to me. I'd play A1

MARKEG
26-04-2006, 05:54 PM
Run around detroit, finding gigs in the old days.
enter the warehouse, see how many copies of the bells you can keep spinning at once.
Fight off any competition by re-releasing the same record again and again and again.
End of level boss is dave clark, who you have to out poncify in a most pretencious interview competition.
Weapon bonuses: 909. 909. 909 and a 808.

gimme gimme gimme!!! where can i buy said game?!!!! :lol:

massplanck
26-04-2006, 06:10 PM
jeff mills.

i've never owned one of his records. nor do i intend to. never mind sandals and wrenches.

as for the bells & jaguar being rinsed out time and time again. well stop going to see him and you wont be dissapointed.

dirty_bass
26-04-2006, 06:18 PM
Run around detroit, finding gigs in the old days.
enter the warehouse, see how many copies of the bells you can keep spinning at once.
Fight off any competition by re-releasing the same record again and again and again.
End of level boss is dave clark, who you have to out poncify in a most pretencious interview competition.
Weapon bonuses: 909. 909. 909 and a 808.

gimme gimme gimme!!! where can i buy said game?!!!! :lol:

available via axis soon.
also coming

Axis loans and mortgages.
Axis mobile network.
Axis fragrance (detroit motor oil, Servisol IPA, and vinyl )
Axis low cost airlines and car rental.
And of course, Axis wine coolers.

Conan
26-04-2006, 06:29 PM
jeff mills.

i've never owned one of his records. nor do i intend to. never mind sandals and wrenches.

as for the bells & jaguar being rinsed out time and time again. well stop going to see him and you wont be dissapointed.

Good idea

Francisco Scaramanga
26-04-2006, 06:31 PM
God, axis wine coolers, now that would be a real rave necessity! This current crop of items is pretty funny I think - I mean whats up with the axis tire lug wrench? Why bother having an axis one if its only going to sit in the boot of your car getting dirty until the tire blows, or maybe we are meant to display them or something?

I was soooo hoping that the large axis searchlight would be like a bat sign projector type thing, projecting the axis logo into the sky to signal Mills' mothership or something.

koma
26-04-2006, 06:36 PM
well if the records are selling, of course he's going to re-release it
like you wouldnt, lol

eyeswithoutaface
26-04-2006, 06:45 PM
this is hilarious

pretty much makes all the intellectual and philosophical bullshit he ties's to his image just that, bullshit. As much as i respect his djing and what he's done for techno, this is too much. And dont give me that not making enough money off the music rubbish, the man commands up to and above £10,000 - £15,000 per gig, and has done for many years now. Saying he's skint simply wont wash

what next, Axis Air? Cheap flights to the home of Jeff Mills, where you can then take a guided tour of the Axis Museum and Visitors Information Centre

Miromiric
26-04-2006, 07:02 PM
jeff mills.

i've never owned one of his records. nor do i intend to. never mind sandals and wrenches.

as for the bells & jaguar being rinsed out time and time again. well stop going to see him and you wont be dissapointed.

you are so controversial.

Buttman
26-04-2006, 08:40 PM
FU ALL MILLS MAKES GREAT PROPER MUSIC.

Just try and focus on the music and disregard all his silly philosophies and merchandise.

eyeswithoutaface
26-04-2006, 08:47 PM
FU ALL MILLS MAKES GREAT PROPER MUSIC.

Just try and focus on the music and disregard all his silly philosophies and merchandise.

that's a hard thing to do when the man in question cant even do it himself

Conan
26-04-2006, 08:58 PM
FU ALL MILLS MAKES GREAT PROPER MUSIC.

Just try and focus on the music and disregard all his silly philosophies and merchandise.


Mills MADE great proper music

conflict
26-04-2006, 09:06 PM
look at it from a business point of view

so what if he wants to make some money?

i couldnt give a shit

FUSION
26-04-2006, 09:22 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHA fuk wehter hes going even more commercial thats well funny ! them gloves and that wrench ahahahah

koma
26-04-2006, 09:30 PM
if Mills was from UK and on BOA, most of you would lick his ass :lol:

Buttman
26-04-2006, 09:32 PM
You all are just cranky because you got no ass/pussy for the latest two years. =)

eyeswithoutaface
26-04-2006, 10:03 PM
it doesnt particulary bother me in the sense it doesnt anger me, i find it funny and hypocritical that's all. When someone who is already a millionaire comes out with such tacky, demeaning and downright money grabbing merchandise, you really do have to wonder

dirty_bass
26-04-2006, 10:27 PM
if Mills was from UK and on BOA, most of you would lick his ass :lol:

I guarentee I wouldn`t.

eyeswithoutaface
26-04-2006, 10:39 PM
ditto that, one thing i cannot be accused of is arselicking haha, and to be honest if mills was from the uk and on BOA, i think he'd get the almighty piss taken out of him

koma
26-04-2006, 10:42 PM
ok, you two wouldnt

next!

:lol:

SlavikSvensk
26-04-2006, 10:52 PM
if Mills was from UK and on BOA, most of you would lick his ass :lol:

I guarentee I wouldn`t.

yeah but you'd dribble on it a little. come on...admit it...we're all friends here ;)

The Divide
26-04-2006, 11:59 PM
I went on the site and had a very brief look this morning at the wrench set. Then I came back and just read this. I was laughing my ass off when I read the post about the axis search light and tirewrench!. Thought you guys were taking the piss until I went back on the site and had a proper look! I cant believe there’s an axis searchlight which beams out the axis logo. Absolutely hilarious, it’s a necessity!

"If you cant get to Jeff Mills with the axis searchlight then why not consider purchansing our 'axisphonetm'"

http://img266.echo.cx/img266/8561/batphone4lz.jpg

http://www.themarketguys.com/images/direct_bnr.jpg

http://www.thedivide.co.uk/images/AXIS%20AD.jpg

SlavikSvensk
27-04-2006, 12:03 AM
:clap:

dirty_bass
27-04-2006, 12:08 AM
bwahahahaha

MARKEG
27-04-2006, 01:05 AM
you're all crazy... mills is a v influential figure in techno. you gotta respect him. he's making some cash - whatever - what is wrong with making money?. he's not forwarding techno imho.. but i love him. he was a big part of my life.

eyeswithoutaface
27-04-2006, 01:21 AM
we respect that marky, thats obvious i think, but come on.... i think ANYONE in music putting out such non-music based merchandise would get ribbed, its hilarious, really, imagine Glenn Wilson Barometers, or Marco Bailey Carp Rods, or Kraftwerk Frozen Cup Drinks.... or Dj Ribbz Eyelash Extensions or whatever

to be honest they are such weird items i doubt the average mills fan would be interested in them anyway, and he might not make much at all on them

the respect is a side issue really, no one is above a bit of mickey taking, especially for such a venture :)

its great

davethedrummer
27-04-2006, 01:28 AM
you're all crazy... mills is a v influential figure in techno. you gotta respect him. he's making some cash - whatever - what is wrong with making money?. he's not forwarding techno imho.. but i love him. he was a big part of my life.

you love everyone
why should we listen to you?

if the bloke down the road made a shitty old synth in his garden shed that never worked you'd love him for it.

probably

Conan
27-04-2006, 01:36 AM
you're all crazy... mills is a v influential figure in techno. you gotta respect him. he's making some cash - whatever - what is wrong with making money?. he's not forwarding techno imho.. but i love him. he was a big part of my life.

you love everyone
why should we listen to you?

if the bloke down the road made a shitty old synth in his garden shed that never worked you'd love him for it.

probably

:lol:

dirty_bass
27-04-2006, 01:37 AM
Marco Bailey Carp Rods

hahahaha
I want some of that shit

loopdon
27-04-2006, 08:03 AM
yeah yeah, man needs to earn and crust and that.
But I dunno, after all his philosophical waffle he comes out with, this just stinks of blatant capitalism.
Horrible horrible merchandising.

When will we get the jeff mills computer game?
Run around detroit, finding gigs in the old days.
enter the warehouse, see how many copies of the bells you can keep spinning at once.
Fight off any competition by re-releasing the same record again and again and again.
End of level boss is dave clark, who you have to out poncify in a most pretencious interview competition.
Weapon bonuses: 909. 909. 909 and a 808.


this is superb :)

i really don't know what makes the bells so special to him. i mean if i had done that one myself i think i'd be sick of even hearing it mentioned. he has this blue potential or sth. dvd coming out - with an orchestra or sth. guess what - the bells is on that as well - sick.
i mean i'd feel weird making classically trained musicians play that shizzle. who's he think he is :techno:

no problem with that kind of marketing but as you said it really doesn't go hand in hand with the philosophical bullshit he utters...

The Overfiend
27-04-2006, 08:13 AM
You all are just cranky because you got no ass/pussy for the latest two years. =)

Speak for yourself Manatee humper.

And if he wants to do racing jackets and wenches then so be it
For all we know he's probably into racing these days
Albeit an expensive sport but thats probably why he did it.
Wrench quality this and that, it's a novelty.
When bands have t-shirts and posters its called marketing.
Why player hate someone making money.
Adam Beyer makes a ton of money playing out, still makes quality music, and I am sure he made some change off the Drumcode slipmats and tshirts. Is he not keeping it real anymore?

Aratron
27-04-2006, 08:17 AM
very pretentious
the logical progression of the ego of 99% of most dj and artists.

Si the Sigh
27-04-2006, 08:41 AM
you're all crazy... mills is a v influential figure in techno. you gotta respect him. he's making some cash - whatever - what is wrong with making money?. he's not forwarding techno imho.. but i love him. he was a big part of my life.

you love everyone
why should we listen to you?

if the bloke down the road made a shitty old synth in his garden shed that never worked you'd love him for it.

probably

ah ha ha ha! :lol:

The best post ever! :cheese:

Buttman
27-04-2006, 09:37 AM
Sam is right.. Why is it OK for e.g. Downwards to make 5 different t-shirts but not OK for Axis to make socket wrenches?
Clothing has no more to do with music than car-racing does.

holotropik
27-04-2006, 10:12 AM
Actually car racing has a lot more to do with car racing than you think. Its all about harmonics, balance, tuning, focus and intent. I know that music has much in common with racing, I have lived with both for a very long time...

Anyway, who cares what he does with HIS business. There are many out there who diversify their music business and lifestyle and dabble in many things. Some just choose to sell drugs to kiddies, some choose to sell slipmats to kiddies....whatever.

holotropik
27-04-2006, 10:27 AM
I must add that I have renounced racing about 10 years ago (having competed for 20yrs prior) and lead a lifestyle with far less carbon emissions now. Techno was the perfect substitution for the head-space I had while racing.

Buttman
27-04-2006, 10:38 AM
"Actually car racing has a lot more to do with car racing than you think"

I refuse to believe that.

The Overfiend
27-04-2006, 10:40 AM
"Actually car racing has a lot more to do with car racing than you think"

I refuse to believe that. :lol:

holotropik
27-04-2006, 11:04 AM
yep...ok.

koma
27-04-2006, 11:14 AM
he's not forwarding techno imho...

well I believe he already did enough for it, didnt he? in the way none of us will...


Why player hate someone making money

its usually coming from those that can't make it.
I mean, he's not like Tiesto or some proggy plonkers, non stop in the media, earning money for playing shyte etc
he's making money outside music. why would the music be the only thing he does in life? cause thats underground, thats real techno attitude? bollocks...

damn, I wonder what would people say if they knew some techno DJ's are into porn industry.
if I had a money to invest, I'd do the same, coz thats where the money lies. porn. :cheese:


i really don't know what makes the bells so special to him. i mean if i had done that one myself i think i'd be sick of even hearing it mentioned. he has this blue potential or sth. dvd coming out - with an orchestra or sth. guess what - the bells is on that as well - sick.
i mean i'd feel weird making classically trained musicians play that shizzle. who's he think he is

special to him? or special to those who are still buying that record? those who want to hear it on a party? not that is my favourite, but the track did passed the test of time. and if he got the chance to work with an orchestra, why not? the way I see it, its one more thing due to which people might stop looking on techno as drug addicts music.
plus, dont know if you heard it, but its good.

at least every track of his sounds pretty different from the others in his catalogue. most producers today are releasing bunch of records every year, that sound the same.
and then we wonder why those records arent selling lol

Miromiric
27-04-2006, 11:16 AM
"Actually car racing has a lot more to do with car racing than you think"

I refuse to believe that.

thats our buttman :lol:

Conan
27-04-2006, 11:25 AM
Sam is right.. Why is it OK for e.g. Downwards to make 5 different t-shirts but not OK for Axis to make socket wrenches?
Clothing has no more to do with music than car-racing does.

Well everybody who listens to techno wears t-shirts but not all of them are into car racing.

Nobody is hating on the chap for making money, it's just funny that he is now selling wrenches, racing gloves and jackets thats all.

And from a business point of view it isn't a very good move, How many people are going to buy these products?

Adam bayer still makes good tunes and is a good Dj, can the same be said for Mills?

Miromiric
27-04-2006, 11:30 AM
actually it is quite the opposite, productionwise. ;)

massplanck
27-04-2006, 01:34 PM
. When someone who is already a millionaire comes out with such tacky, demeaning and downright money grabbing merchandise, you really do have to wonder

not really if that someone hails from the US of A.

Didnt he put some crazy price on some standard record he released a couple of years back?

philipryan
27-04-2006, 01:58 PM
. When someone who is already a millionaire comes out with such tacky, demeaning and downright money grabbing merchandise, you really do have to wonder

not really if that someone hails from the US of A.

Didnt he put some crazy price on some standard record he released a couple of years back?

yeh, I think it was 'Every Dog... Vol 3'. Couldn't get it in any shop (in Dublin anyway) for less than €35.

massplanck
27-04-2006, 02:19 PM
yeh, I think it was 'Every Dog... Vol 3'. Couldn't get it in any shop (in Dublin anyway) for less than €35.

album or a single?

either way **** him and **** the bells.

Si the Sigh
27-04-2006, 02:27 PM
:help:

koma
27-04-2006, 02:47 PM
not a long ago people were banned for less

philipryan
27-04-2006, 02:51 PM
yeh, I think it was 'Every Dog... Vol 3'. Couldn't get it in any shop (in Dublin anyway) for less than €35.

album or a single?

either way **** him and **** the bells.

It was a double pack

massplanck
27-04-2006, 02:51 PM
not a long ago people were banned for less

nah. im just being a rebel for the laugh. ;) seriously though. 35 quid for a record?

Si the Sigh
27-04-2006, 03:08 PM
Standard issue 97/98 London acid techno ebay prices that... :lol:

koma
27-04-2006, 03:09 PM
but no one if forcing you to buy it
remember the crazy prices for that analord series?

anyway, some dj's are paying 50, 100, 150 euros to other djs for the records that can't be found in shops anymore
not sure if I would do it
but, its their choice

philipryan
27-04-2006, 03:20 PM
but no one if forcing you to buy it

That's true, but it could equally be said that he's deliberately exploiting the fact that there are hardcore Mills devotees out there - and they will pay anything just so as to not have a gap in their collection.

Personally I have all but 3 or 4 Axis records but when that came along I just though "**** you" and didn't buy it - managed to get it for a tenner in a bargain bin in France later... and it's only OK.

massplanck
27-04-2006, 03:26 PM
Standard issue 97/98 London acid techno ebay prices that... :lol:

but we are not talking ebay here. we are talking the price it was in the shops.

massplanck
27-04-2006, 03:27 PM
but no one if forcing you to buy it
remember the crazy prices for that analord series?

anyway, some dj's are paying 50, 100, 150 euros to other djs for the records that can't be found in shops anymore


this one was readily available in the shops. at a jacked up price.

The Overfiend
27-04-2006, 04:13 PM
The Prolekult quadruple pack was expensive.
Buying all the Pattern Plays at once was expensive.
If people love it
Because there are those out there that do.
It will sell.
He didn't put a Mill in his pocket for dolo.
Being a smart business person does not make you any less of what he is.
Jeff Mills is still Jeff Mills.
Just like Joey Beltram is still Joey Beltram.
And so on and so forth.

dirty_bass
27-04-2006, 04:27 PM
Blatant "I need money" merchanidising is just ugly.
As is branding, the scourge of the 90`s.
If he didn`t spout all this damn philosophy all the time, then it would be fine for him to just turn into a dollar suck machine.
However his philosophy mixed with blatant and crass branding, makes him a bit of a dink.
Hero and originator of shit or not.

The Overfiend
27-04-2006, 04:41 PM
You're a dink!
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/050330/n_parliament_fight_050330.300w.jpg

Anyone who knows me knows I can give an ounce of piss for this argument.

Lag
27-04-2006, 04:59 PM
yeah, this sure is funny
seeing him being all deep and musical on every single interview i watched

i havent laughed like this since the great punk movement

koma
27-04-2006, 05:11 PM
so a man can't be serious about music
coz he's doing something besides that music?

i think its the other way around

dirty_bass
27-04-2006, 05:33 PM
I thin kyou miss th epoint, it`s not really about the music, it`s more the philosophical stuff he uses.

SlavikSvensk
27-04-2006, 05:50 PM
. When someone who is already a millionaire comes out with such tacky, demeaning and downright money grabbing merchandise, you really do have to wonder

not really if that someone hails from the US of A.


:nono: hey now...not all of us are materialistic. in fact, i got my set of diamond-encrusted gold teeth and all i had to do is sell my kidney. ;)

seriously though...

i love his old axis and purpose maker records: they were essential and highly innovative.

i don't care as much for his newer music, but it's still ok.

this s***, however, i don't like at all. but as koma pointed out, i don't have to buy it, do i? and the old records are still essential...

massplanck
27-04-2006, 06:09 PM
The Prolekult quadruple pack was expensive.
Buying all the Pattern Plays at once was expensive.


yes. but were they priced at double that of normal records? :mad:

no-one had an answer to this? yes you didnt have to buy it. but i'm sure the thing sold out coz its mills and everyone just wet themselves.

what i want to know is did every dog has its day pt3 pay for his racing car?

keeping it real. :roll:

Miromiric
27-04-2006, 06:15 PM
obedience is key to joy :

you got the grip of it, my son.

Dustin Zahn
27-04-2006, 06:17 PM
http://www.abiotic.net/images/mnvibe/giveadamn.gif

dirty_bass
27-04-2006, 06:19 PM
How much was the quadruple pack?

massplanck
27-04-2006, 06:23 PM
http://www.abiotic.net/images/mnvibe/giveadamn.gif

thats hilarious they whole taking time out of your busy schedule to reply to a thread you dont give a damn about\have time for . just crazy. ;)

The Overfiend
27-04-2006, 11:18 PM
How much was the quadruple pack?

Quadruple dollas n*gga.
:lol:

dirty_bass
27-04-2006, 11:26 PM
hehe
damn you for making me laugh

Alan Oldham
28-04-2006, 02:16 AM
:lol: Haters.

MARKEG
28-04-2006, 02:47 AM
you know what??

i don't care what you all say, j mills rocks. waveform transmission 3 was a turning point in my life..

his set at tribal gathering 96 universe just blew me away.

i love jeff mills.. techno would not be techno without jeff mills.

The Overfiend
28-04-2006, 04:28 AM
you know what??

i don't care what you all say, j mills rocks. waveform transmission 3 was a turning point in my life..

his set at tribal gathering 96 universe just blew me away.

i love jeff mills.. techno would not be techno without jeff mills.

Agreed 110 percent.
Like I said if Beyer designed a mixer tomorrow the lot of you would have one.

Davin
28-04-2006, 02:34 PM
You never know when you'll need a set of Record Label Patented driving gloves!

massplanck
28-04-2006, 02:40 PM
you know what??

i don't care what you all say, j mills rocks. waveform transmission 3 was a turning point in my life..

his set at tribal gathering 96 universe just blew me away.

i love jeff mills.. techno would not be techno without jeff mills.

no-one said anything about his music (i think). i was just wondering why a record was twice the price it normally is in the shops? And i got no answer. He can market all he wants doesnt really bother me. I just wanna know if charging double for that record is ok in your books? Maybe ive got it wrong. But if you all just want to stay schtum and gloss over it then fair enough.

I just didnt think that that was a cool thing to do. k>?

Now someone give me a rational explaination or tell me that there was a mistake with the distribution coming into dublin or something and i'll shut my ass.

I NEVER bitch about producers on here. But the above was something that annoyed me a couple of years back and DID change my perception on mills due to all the philosopical stuff he comes out with.

anyway.

if i dont get a reply then fair enough i win.

Mindful
28-04-2006, 03:30 PM
haha

dirty_bass
28-04-2006, 04:57 PM
you know what??

i don't care what you all say, j mills rocks. waveform transmission 3 was a turning point in my life..

his set at tribal gathering 96 universe just blew me away.

i love jeff mills.. techno would not be techno without jeff mills.

Agreed 110 percent.
Like I said if Beyer designed a mixer tomorrow the lot of you would have one.

Ass, I`d be laughing at beyer too then.
Actually, if it was some amazing mixer that really did something we needed in a mixer then cool.

Driving gloves?
Capitalist pig dog.

Dustin Zahn
28-04-2006, 05:27 PM
Ass, I`d be laughing at beyer too then.
Actually, if it was some amazing mixer that really did something we needed in a mixer then cool.

Driving gloves?
Capitalist pig dog.

You know...you play the "nice guy looking to better techno" card a lot, but I swear 90% of yours posts on here are negative or bashing someone/something.

dirty_bass
28-04-2006, 05:51 PM
dude, if you can`t see the schweinhund german humour in my last post, then you probably need to get some nitrous down your neck.

SlavikSvensk
28-04-2006, 06:46 PM
someone PLEASE lock this thread...so we can start another thread about why this one was locked... ;)

dirty_bass
28-04-2006, 06:57 PM
about time we had the obligatory racist accusation.

MARKEG
28-04-2006, 07:08 PM
no!!!! please god no!!!

dirty just shut up you english pig

:lol:

dirty_bass
28-04-2006, 07:12 PM
Do I detect a slight hint of racism in that smiley mark?
I`m sure he`s mouthing the words
Sieg Heil!!!

And that pic of chow yun fat in you avatar, what we don`t see is that the pole he holds is a flagpole with the nazi emblem.

Racist!!!
Racist!!!!!

SlavikSvensk
28-04-2006, 07:54 PM
well, i think you are all racists. the fact that there's virtually no discussion of the country of belize in this forum is ample proof. also portugal. what the **** do you racist bastards have against the portuguese?!

xfive
28-04-2006, 07:57 PM
Steve's not racist.. he hates everyone equally.

:bonk:

audioinjection
28-04-2006, 08:00 PM
HIlarious

Mindful
28-04-2006, 08:26 PM
hahahahahahahaha fu cking class

djshiva
28-04-2006, 09:19 PM
Blatant "I need money" merchanidising is just ugly.
As is branding, the scourge of the 90`s.
If he didn`t spout all this damn philosophy all the time, then it would be fine for him to just turn into a dollar suck machine.
However his philosophy mixed with blatant and crass branding, makes him a bit of a dink.
Hero and originator of shit or not.

:clap:

i think what dirty_bass and some others are trying to get across is that if you are just a blatant capitalist, then no one is gonna really be surprised by overt marketing of random crap with your logo on it.
but if you present yourself as someone in it for the art and philosophy and THEN go over the top with the marketing, it stinks of hypocrisy.

but then, anyone who has a basic understanding of the english language and has read mills' wannabe philosophical record label blurbs and such, probably already knows that he was talking out his ass the whole time anyway. utter BS tripe.

me personally, i think the whole pseudo-intellectual crap was all just a subtler marketing tool, and finally he has moved past the pretense and gone right for the obvious marketing. although selling car tools and shit strikes me as a pretty lousy business move if money is what you're looking for...

Mindful
28-04-2006, 10:19 PM
Mills......love his music and what hes done for techno, driving gloves....... dont realy care for but whatever he wants to do.

The comments in this thead, funny

Thank fu ck for the peeps who can have a lark

Buttman
28-04-2006, 11:49 PM
What about Thighpaulsandra's Cum Towels? Capitalist/commercialist too?
http://www.thighpaulsandra.com/images/store/towel.jpg

conflict
29-04-2006, 12:13 AM
can't believe you lot are still bitchin about this

(lets get this to 20)

djshiva
29-04-2006, 02:20 AM
and i can't believe (well, yes i can actually) that those who have made honest critiques of blatant consumerism disguised as philosophical hooha are always labelled "bitching".

for those who cannot differentiate:

bitching: "jeff mills is a lazy sod who trainwrecks, lives off the success of his previous purpose maker output and now sells stupid crap to make money."

critiquing: "i find it problematic that someone who has built their career on supposed forward-thinking musical concepts has now decided that slapping their label logo on driving gloves meshes with their previously stated views on music and art."

ahem.

module
29-04-2006, 02:32 AM
screw the merchandise.. i never loved Mills for his merchandising, i loved him for his tunes.

but imo, he hasnt moved forward. its still the same vibe/sound. and regardless of what pruck hes stuck an Axis logo on, his music hasnt progressed. THATS my problem.

as for popping at Beyer.. slipmatts & t-shorts are used in clubs. i wear t-shirts & i (used to) use matts.. i never ever needed a beach towel or a wrench when i went clubbing or played out lol

as for The Bells, ive recently done my own re-edit ;)

The Overfiend
29-04-2006, 06:24 AM
Purpose Maker Rakes and Hoes.
Who doesn't do yard work?
Purpose Maker roach spray
It is Detroit ya know.

Miromiric
29-04-2006, 10:42 AM
What about Thighpaulsandra's Cum Towels? Capitalist/commercialist too?
http://www.thighpaulsandra.com/images/store/towel.jpg

lol i gorgot about thAT. its a must have!

The Divide
29-04-2006, 11:20 AM
Purpose Maker roach spray!
'its detroit you know' :lol:



as for popping at Beyer.. slipmatts & t-shorts are used in clubs. i wear t-shirts & i (used to) use matts.. i never ever needed a beach towel or a wrench when i went clubbing or played out lol


I agree, never had a problem wearing t shirts with record labels on them, ide rather wear something that supports a label than wear the latest thing in the name of fashion. It seems like the axis name itself is being tailored around making a brand for itself more than the label itself. Like a fashion name, fair enough if that’s the route he wants to go, it’s hardly the punky techno spirit I like

Ide love to see someone get kitted up head to toe in axis clothing, its possible. I would wear the sandals, the axis sweat pants (black), axis T shirt, axis sweater, axis jacket, axis wool hat and then the axis helmet! Woa there’s an axis helmet, didn’t see that the other day. Then they could stand in the middle of the dance floor with an axis helmet on, dressed head to toe in black axis wear flashing the axis torch at people on random. Would probably look like darf vader, could even add it to the adding it to axis journal.

Safe bra safe

The Divide
29-04-2006, 11:22 AM
Todays entry:

'looked a total twat but it put a few people on't noia'

Mindful
29-04-2006, 12:34 PM
we could dress up and become AXIS FORCE.
Then we could enforce the law in the name of techno.
And we could have sirens on our cars that play the bells.
How sweet

Buttman
29-04-2006, 03:03 PM
Kicking a dead pig.

dirty_bass
29-04-2006, 04:43 PM
and i can't believe (well, yes i can actually) that those who have made honest critiques of blatant consumerism disguised as philosophical hooha are always labelled "bitching".

for those who cannot differentiate:

bitching: "jeff mills is a lazy sod who trainwrecks, lives off the success of his previous purpose maker output and now sells stupid crap to make money."

critiquing: "i find it problematic that someone who has built their career on supposed forward-thinking musical concepts has now decided that slapping their label logo on driving gloves meshes with their previously stated views on music and art."

ahem.

I think I just fell in love.

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