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Just been trying to register my group name on myspace, and someone already has the name.. it look like they havnt had it for as long as the live act i run.
They are based in the states and are a punk band.. does anyone know what kind of recourse i have in getting them to stop using the name?
Is it even important? Am i being picky?
www.myspace.com/theinspectors
Thoughts anyone?
I dont want to change names as i like it.
SlavikSvensk
07-06-2006, 09:45 PM
Just been trying to register my group name on myspace, and someone already has the name.. it look like they havnt had it for as long as the live act i run.
They are based in the states and are a punk band.. does anyone know what kind of recourse i have in getting them to stop using the name?
Is it even important? Am i being picky?
www.myspace.com/theinspectors
Thoughts anyone?
I dont want to change names as i like it.
well, i know that in cases where several artists have the same name, and the UK act puts out music later, the uk act gets a "uk" stuck on theirs when sold in the US, i.e. The Chameleons UK. i think this is only an issue if you are publishing and/or releasing records in the US though, and otherwise i don't think you have any legal recourse, though i could be wrong...
...tocsin would probably know.
eyeswithoutaface
07-06-2006, 11:21 PM
yep you cant really do anything about it mate, it would be a different case if it were a major act and there were genuine conflicts of interest, for example if someone started putting out music under the name Robbie Williams, they wouldnt have to wait long before his management where on the phone, obviously Robbie Williams will have his name branded and protected in some way shape or form as its a multimillion pound revenue at stake and what not, doesnt mean a thing in the small world of techno though unfortunately
i remember the band The Electric Soft Parade had similiar problems when they were called The Soft Parade as an american group had the same name so they thrashed out a deal where they would add the "Electric" to their name, but like i said thats major label stuff where genuine confusion, loss of earnings, artistic compromise etc etc plays a big factor
usually boils down to money, and who has the potential to make the most, or is currently making the most, for their respective labels
Aye.. i thought as much, but it pays to ask like.
Nice One.
SlavikSvensk
08-06-2006, 01:45 AM
seriously though...ask tocsin. he's up on all the finer pts of US music law. maybe post in the metropolis?
DJPAUZE
08-06-2006, 04:00 AM
Hey guess what? The same freaking thing just happened to me. There is a drum and bass dj from the UK with the exact same name as me. LOL
I mailed him but i have no clue what to do otherwise. Do a search for DJ Pauze on myspace and you will see him. I'm not sure really what to do mate.
The Overfiend
08-06-2006, 10:19 AM
Punch him in the face.
Then say recognize beyotch.
Si the Sigh
08-06-2006, 10:29 AM
:lol:
TechMouse
08-06-2006, 11:19 AM
I know "Plasticman" has had to change his name recently, after legal pressure from the man Hawtin.
He thought it was well funny, he'd never heard of Plastikman before.
He's calling himself "The Plastician" now.
massplanck
08-06-2006, 11:23 AM
mark one had to change his name too to m.r.k. 1
dirty_bass
08-06-2006, 12:05 PM
There`s a big difference between european and US law.
You can talk to my mate, who is a qaulified expert in these matters if you like, but I`m pretty sure that essentially your stuffed.
However, it shouldn`t matter too much.
trip_out
08-06-2006, 12:43 PM
At the bar I used to work at we had Dave Clarke behind the decks every Saturday night - except it was 'Dave Clarke (Galaxy 106)'. Shame really, would have enjoyed being there otherwise ;)
acidsaturation
08-06-2006, 02:10 PM
It tends to come down to who's got the most money, but also who can show they have used it first doesn't it.
Mind a US punk band and a UK techno act, there's less likely to be issues I'd guess....
Mindful
09-06-2006, 10:11 PM
Yeah mate its a shitter.
Same happend to me, I went to do a myspace page and there was allready a Casual violence page for some band, weird as **** thing is they live in my town.
They look about 12 yrs old and had a pink page lol.........TWATS
eyeswithoutaface
09-06-2006, 10:34 PM
Yeah mate its a shitter.
Same happend to me, I went to do a myspace page and there was allready a Casual violence page for some band, weird as **** thing is they live in my town.
They look about 12 yrs old and had a pink page lol.........TWATS
yeah yeah Steve, that was just a way for you to promote your new emo band wasnt it? ;)
Mindful
09-06-2006, 10:46 PM
hahahaha
rumbled
Still wanna produce the band for me?
eyeswithoutaface
09-06-2006, 11:38 PM
you knows it mate, and il do it for cheap because its you, £300 a track sound good?
Mindful
09-06-2006, 11:43 PM
hahaha, hmmmmm
davethedrummer
10-06-2006, 07:20 PM
someones already got my name too
but he's a drummer and his names dave
what can you do????
i was just too damn slow getting on it in the first place
and basically if your signing up for my space now , you are way behind
sorry but it's the truth
don't let it drag on so long next time
thats what i told myself anyway.
DannyBlack
11-06-2006, 06:09 PM
that why its 'D.A.V.E' and not DAVE?
myspave wont let you do that.. no dots i dont think.
@henry
You're right, but myspace is myspace and i was just interested generally speaking in that particular chestnut..
TechMouse
12-06-2006, 12:41 PM
I still say MySpace is just "internet for morons".
I still say MySpace is just "internet for morons".
Of course it is mark. But thats not the point, from my perspective its just another networking and promotional tool.
And when did you discover that the internet was for morons? Thats shocking :roll:
:lol:
TechMouse
12-06-2006, 07:02 PM
"Yeah Myspace is great! You get your own page, with information and everything!"
"What, like the internet?"
"Yeah, but you can find loads of cool people with it!"
"What, like the internet?"
"Well, yeah, but you can put pictures on it and videos and stuff..."
"What like the internet?"
(etc)
Dave Elyzium
14-06-2006, 01:24 PM
http://sketch.psycho-ward.org/myspace.jpg
Dave Elyzium
14-06-2006, 01:24 PM
oh yeah by the way check out my myspace http://www.myspace.com/daveelyzium
hahaha
The Divide
15-06-2006, 12:45 AM
Ever since I joined myspace the plants have blossomed, the bee's came out, the depression diminished and the quality of life has just got better and better. Check myspace…
http://www.myspace.com/thedivide
MARKEG
15-06-2006, 03:33 PM
yeah dan, i can see from your avatar :lol:
yeah dan, i can see from your avatar :lol:
:lol:
The Divide
15-06-2006, 08:18 PM
yeah dan, i can see from your avatar :lol:
:lol:
Thats nothing, ever seen the barking cat?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-747750070349019460&q=barking+cat
That cat is inspired me
The Divide
15-06-2006, 08:19 PM
edit button?
massplanck
15-06-2006, 11:41 PM
edit button?
mang.
davethedrummer
17-06-2006, 12:10 PM
oh yeah by the way check out my myspace http://www.myspace.com/daveelyzium
hahaha
wow!
you've got loads of mates!!
i'm jealous.... i've only got one....and thats that bloke tom who's supposed to show you around :eh:
i just cannot be arsed with it to be honest
but if i could ....i'd do it like yours , it's hilarious
my space
it's crap
but who cares?
:cheese:
oh yeah by the way check out my myspace http://www.myspace.com/daveelyzium
hahaha
wow!
you've got loads of mates!!
i'm jealous.... i've only got one....and thats that bloke tom who's supposed to show you around :eh:
i just cannot be arsed with it to be honest
but if i could ....i'd do it like yours , it's hilarious
my space
it's crap
but who cares?
:cheese:
That toms a cnut. If i ever see him he's gonna get a kicking.... :twisted:
dan the acid man
17-06-2006, 01:20 PM
yeah, i joined and haven't done anything with it really, i've had one good thing come of it, i heard from an old college friend who i've not seen for years.
but now all i get is spammed to death from sheffield bands :lol:
paulcortex
17-06-2006, 02:51 PM
someone tried to tell me once that i couldnt use my name...Paul cortex :wtf:
because theres already a cortex (alex? i think)
...well heres the score.... :disgust: ive been using the name for 15 years now and i aint giving it up :rambo:
...i suggest a duel at dawn....the loser aint gonna be around to complain... :lol: easy!
....thats the way all music gripes should be solved lol ... damn music lawyers fees! :eh:
rotten
19-06-2006, 12:30 PM
oh yeah by the way check out my myspace http://www.myspace.com/daveelyzium
hahaha
wow!
you've got loads of mates!!
i'm jealous.... i've only got one....and thats that bloke tom who's supposed to show you around :eh:
i just cannot be arsed with it to be honest
but if i could ....i'd do it like yours , it's hilarious
my space
it's crap
but who cares?
:cheese:
That toms a cnut. If i ever see him he's gonna get a kicking.... :twisted:
yea that tom's a fag!! but check out how much mates he has, how sick is that ! :shock:
btw www.myspace.com/unclean2006 :eyes:
DjSolaris
19-06-2006, 06:10 PM
Tom sold myspace to MSN?, so he is now the ghost in the machine...
as to the original post, i have dont some research here in the states and what i have found is.
1. you have priority if you ahve played a city before another with the same name. who plays it first gets to use thier name there.
2. you can get a service mark, meaning you and only you can use the name in the US. this cost around $300 US for three or five years.
3. in the industry using a name that sounds like the name you use is not allowed. an example synnister, sinnister. phonetically the same = no no.
after that, it is all about writing them with a nice statement and putting the pressure, quote the law, then ask for a cease and desist....if it works great, if not then not much you can do, but most people will do it if it looks like you have beat them to the punch and know way more than they do.
basic US law...just act like you know more and bluff your way to get what you want. (or something along those lines.)
hope that helps
DjSolaris
19-06-2006, 06:10 PM
oh and i forgot http://www.myspace.com/dj_solaris
davethedrummer
19-06-2006, 09:37 PM
Tom sold myspace to MSN?, so he is now the ghost in the machine...
as to the original post, i have dont some research here in the states and what i have found is.
1. you have priority if you ahve played a city before another with the same name. who plays it first gets to use thier name there.
2. you can get a service mark, meaning you and only you can use the name in the US. this cost around $300 US for three or five years.
3. in the industry using a name that sounds like the name you use is not allowed. an example synnister, sinnister. phonetically the same = no no.
after that, it is all about writing them with a nice statement and putting the pressure, quote the law, then ask for a cease and desist....if it works great, if not then not much you can do, but most people will do it if it looks like you have beat them to the punch and know way more than they do.
basic US law...just act like you know more and bluff your way to get what you want. (or something along those lines.)
hope that helps
so i guess that rules out me calling my self jeff mills for a laugh then?
dan the acid man
19-06-2006, 11:07 PM
has jeff mills played in bradford yet ? if not, you could call yourself jeff mills there :lol:
eyeswithoutaface
19-06-2006, 11:16 PM
Well i have it on good authority that Elvis never played Liverpool......
so just call me Elvis from now on guys, ok?!
and that Tom guy sold Myspace to Rupert Murdoch, not msn, hence all hoo-haa from people saying "im not joining that, im not supporting that megalomaniac!!!!".... *skip 3 months*.... "hehe check my myspace!"
MARKEG
20-06-2006, 01:12 PM
i might f myspace off tbh. i'm just sick of spending one hour a week approving friends and replying to people who have obviously stumbled across your name on a mates page and are asking how many e's you take during a set. call me stuck up, but i've just got more important things to be doing these days...
Sunil
20-06-2006, 03:12 PM
You're right Mark. From what most users I know say to me, it's that they waste far too much time on it. I know it has its advantages and stuff but I honestly think that's overshadowed by the time it wastes. Depends on the user I guess. Personally I'm not planning on getting a Myspace anytime soon, I waste enough time on BOA as it is :)
davethedrummer
20-06-2006, 03:36 PM
i might f myspace off tbh. i'm just sick of spending one hour a week approving friends and replying to people who have obviously stumbled across your name on a mates page and are asking how many e's you take during a set. call me stuck up, but i've just got more important things to be doing these days...
what ....like sitting on the internet for hours? :razz:
DannyBlack
20-06-2006, 03:54 PM
at least it aint bebo... fack is all that about?
SlavikSvensk
20-06-2006, 08:15 PM
i might f myspace off tbh. i'm just sick of spending one hour a week approving friends and replying to people who have obviously stumbled across your name on a mates page and are asking how many e's you take during a set. call me stuck up, but i've just got more important things to be doing these days...
see mark...it DOES suck! haha. no seriously...it was only a matter of time before it became useless...if everyone's got 9,000 "friends" then how can there be any meaningful interaction other than "here's what i'm up to" updates...which blogs and websites do much better anyways ;)
eyeswithoutaface
20-06-2006, 08:57 PM
i might f myspace off tbh. i'm just sick of spending one hour a week approving friends and replying to people who have obviously stumbled across your name on a mates page and are asking how many e's you take during a set. call me stuck up, but i've just got more important things to be doing these days...
well in all fairness, you probably only get so many messags etc because of who you are mate, and its simple, just dont reply to people who ask stupid things, and dont add people who you dont know
stuck up :rambo: ;)
i'm planning to get on myspace and make all those porn sluts and bitches my friends :eyes: :lol:
eyeswithoutaface
20-06-2006, 09:01 PM
check Lester Fitzpatricks, i was directed to his page by a mate, he like's his bootys! haha check his page to see what i mean
dirty_bass
20-06-2006, 10:21 PM
It`s about the same as any other form of internet networking, and promotion , forums etc
It is what you let it to be, don`t take it too seriously.
Personally I`ve found it quite handy.
It takes up hardly any of my time at all.
eyeswithoutaface
20-06-2006, 10:24 PM
yeah exactly. And all of us has an hour or more in a whole week to be able to waste online, god knows we all spend enough time on here and other boards
The Divide
21-06-2006, 12:21 AM
We need a revolution
The Overfiend
21-06-2006, 12:39 AM
Lester is even funnier in real life. His camera phone images are way better than the ones on myspace.
The Divide
21-06-2006, 12:55 AM
i might f myspace off tbh. i'm just sick of spending one hour a week approving friends and replying to people who have obviously stumbled across your name on a mates page and are asking how many e's you take during a set. call me stuck up, but i've just got more important things to be doing these days...
well in all fairness, you probably only get so many messags etc because of who you are mate, and its simple, just dont reply to people who ask stupid things, and dont add people who you dont know
stuck up :rambo: ;)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=myspace+whore
eyeswithoutaface
21-06-2006, 01:00 AM
????? dont get it danny
tony - haha sweet, his page truely is great, he seem's a really nice guy
i might f myspace off tbh. i'm just sick of spending one hour a week approving friends and replying to people who have obviously stumbled across your name on a mates page and are asking how many e's you take during a set. call me stuck up, but i've just got more important things to be doing these days...
well in all fairness, you probably only get so many messags etc because of who you are mate, and its simple, just dont reply to people who ask stupid things, and dont add people who you dont know
stuck up :rambo: ;)
What like me...
And isnt what you mean mark, that it hasnt brought you any gigs and you dont want people getting in touch with you...
WTF..
Man, you dissed me on this, for no other reason than you could. I been respectful and inquisitive, promoted your site BOA and taken part and you cant do me the ****ing favour of adding me as a friend? Pedro Delgardo did, he didnt repsond like a friend, but he did respond and ive been at his throat for years..
****s sake.
either kick me off or play fair man.
im NOT asking for respect of you mark. thats not my place to say, but i am asking for more than a ****ing blank.
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