Optimum Techno Speed

[massplanck]

Opitmum techno speed? OTS.

lets sort this question out once and for all.

[prozac]

its gotta be 135
a happy(?) medium between harder slovak stuff and brummy stuff

138 my ass

[The Overfiend]

Different strokes for different folks.
Depends on the skill of the producer.

[Fusion]

i say 140

[eyeswithoutaface]

totally depends on the style of track, producer, emotions (if any) being conveyed in the music etc

average is around 138 - 140, i prefer it a little slower when making tracks to work a little more groove in there, can always be sped up when played out if desired

[massplanck]

totally depends on the style of track, producer, emotions (if any) being conveyed in the music etc

average is around 138 - 140, i prefer it a little slower when making tracks to work a little more groove in there, can always be sped up when played out if desired


please no explainations!!! just a number. ;)

[dan the acid man]

hard for me to say, i can listen to it at all speeds, from 130 upto 150, depends on the style and the tracks really.

not much choice in the poll options though :briggin:

[massplanck]

hard for me to say, i can listen to it at all speeds, from 130 upto 150, depends on the style and the tracks really.

not much choice in the poll options though :briggin:

bah. we all know we can listen to it all speeds. thats what the pitch is for on a deck. Im looking for OTS per squarekHz .

I am also having a laugh..

[audioinjection]

150

[TechMouse]

Anywhere between 145 and 155.

[massplanck]

Anywhere between 145 and 155.


Flip Flopper.

[TechMouse]

Flip Flopper.

:wot: What have you heard?

[theledge]

top poll :laughing:

i'm happy to agree, 138's about right for me....

[dan the acid man]

:wot: What have you heard?

that nobody can catch you with your flip flops on

[dan the acid man]

bah. we all know we can listen to it all speeds. thats what the pitch is for on a deck. Im looking for OTS per squarekHz .

I am also having a laugh..

what's having a laugh ? i thought you was deadly serious :mrmyagi:

[oldbugger]

135-138

[massplanck]

135-138

another flip flopper. we'll round that to 136.5 oldbugger.

[Miromiric]

70

[massplanck]

70


experimental.

[stjohn]

i like to play my 138's at 45 rpm

[BRADLEE]

yeah everyone is differant, but for me 140 is best.

[justin schumacher]

anything that's hard and mental, i like slower, like around 130-134.
for some reason I like more clubby techno really sped up like 140-145.
techouse or mnml, I hover around 126-130.

Therefore..... ots=135 bpm......... imo at least

[koma]

min. 180

[massplanck]

min. 180


thats gonna skew the average fo sho.

[koma]

well ya know, i'm always trying to be above average, in everything..

+ i like it hard and fast, hell yeah

[massplanck]

average is working out at 137.807692307692307692307 OTS so far.

i made got this figure using microsoft calculator with a phaser plugin on the output.

[detfella]

hmm i dont know what velocity you speak of, i think tempo around this area is good:

http://www.leekspin.com/

[dan the acid man]

average is working out at 137.807692307692307692307 OTS so far.

i made got this figure using microsoft calculator with a phaser plugin on the output.


:laughing: :laughing: you nutter :laughing:

[oldbugger]

another flip flopper. we'll round that to 136.5 oldbugger.

thats about right :)

[Clit Commander]

150? you kids and your drugs! :)

132-134 works good for any kind of techno. Glenn Wilson records still sound just as hard at 132. If you're talking swedish techno, italian, or that kind of clubby stuff...I like 136-138. Melodies clash too much when it gets faster than that.

[rhythmtech]

tempo is for geeks, its all about the boom index.

[Nimitz]

I work around 140-145...

peace

nimitz
tensionworks.com

[Si the Sigh]

140 - 145

[BloodStar]

135-140

[Ginjin]

136 to 137 has been working for me of late.

[MITA]

140

[fatcollective]

Production tempo: 135 - 140

Djing or playing live tempo: 140 - 147

[jk_scowling]

Its got to be 133.38 exactly.

[Jay Pace]

134

[Komplex]

I presume this is tracks we're talking about, not at what speed people play their records...

130-140bpm

anything above is dumb. anything below is still cool...

;)

[fac]

128. like richie said.

[Little_Fella!]

135-140

Aha...! Owdoo there matey...

I started out producing at 140 as I felt, imo, that this was a balancing tempo for the dancefloor - keeping everyone jiggin away but not wearing them out on those long hauls that can happen of a weekend....:briggin:

Now I am swaying much more towards 135 as this allows me much more room to put the groove n wiggle in to play... am finding much more space to fill each sound out to it's full potential, without being minimal...:cool:

[Little_Fella!]

Production tempo: 135 - 140

Djing or playing live tempo: 140 - 147

Aha again...

This is interesting as a friend produces at 147 to play live at the acid techno parties down here n this seems to be the perfect not too slow/ not too fast tempo, for his style, which gets the crowd really going of four o'clock in the morning...:briggin:

Different measures for different times as well as for different folks eh... :)

[aggressor]

138

[RDR]

137.655 (perfect for running in D)
145.8393 for running in C
125 for E.

[Aratron]

Anywhere between 145 and 155.

wot he said

tjo i do like playing a lot faster than that aswell at 172 bpm it sounds perfect

[Primary Beat]

140 is a nice speed

[Aratron]

137.655 (perfect for running in D)
145.8393 for running in C
125 for E.

thanks for that dodgy !!

[thomas_figo]

140

[rowland the bastard]

oh bloody hell

[thomas_figo]

oh bloody hell

whats ur speed then?

[echodek]

tempo is for geeks, its all about the boom index.

genius!

[rowland the bastard]

whats ur speed then?

does it really matter?

[fac]

yes

[rowland the bastard]

why? isnt this thread merly making new boundries for what is and what isnt something?

[dan the acid man]

exactly, do what you want to do, when you want to do it, and just hope some other people enjoy it as much as you

[RDR]

why? isnt this thread merly making new boundries for what is and what isnt something?

He was asking a perfectly legitimate question dude.

But then again thats the sort of answer we've come to expect from you. isnt it.

if you dont wanna contribute positivly - piss off somewhere else.

And you can land one in my face for that, because ill get up and say it again.

[RDR]

And you know, thats what i've come to expect from the london crowd (no offence to the innocent eh...) elitist, retentive and un-helpful.

[RDR]

On the other hand i take your point about boundaries. :laughing:

Difference is "I" dont have any.

:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:

[thomas_figo]

why? isnt this thread merly making new boundries for what is and what isnt something?

it looks like someone here is above all.

i know one think: i dont get involve of posts im not interested in.

is my post clear enough or shall i use easier language mr perfect

[dan the acid man]

personally speaking it doesn't look like rowland is coming across as argumentative, he's just stating a different view point, if every thread is just full of people agreeing, this place would become really boring and non productive

[Aratron]

personally speaking it doesn't look like rowland is coming across as argumentative, he's just stating a different view point, if every thread is just full of people agreeing, this place would become really boring and non productive

yes your right.

wait a minute, no , your wrong.

do i win a prize?

[RDR]

personally speaking it doesn't look like rowland is coming across as argumentative, he's just stating a different view point, if every thread is just full of people agreeing, this place would become really boring and non productive

shall i tell you what dan...

It wasnt that he was being argumentative, its just he comes across this is a thread he cares little about i.e this is SUCH a boring internet topic and so old hat...

Well it ISNT ....its a production question and a good one at that. Tempo is a fundamental question and those who are interested in the nitty gritty are only to be applauded.

[ANNOYED]
SO why is it that rowland the bastard needs to chip in with a negative? Cmon man, fess up? why be like that? What does it achieve? Do you think people are going to steal your secrets or is it that you havnt actually thought deeply enough into it to even CARE about the little things such as TEMPO? Do you run at the same boring tempo everytime or have you been interested enough to try and work it out?[ /ANNOYED]

You say it isnt thinking oustide boundaries? but no offence to the others, but everyones tempo seems to be in the same range.. apart from the 70BPM one... thinking oustide boundaries IS about asking questions...

Sure trying to find out what tempo people here write their music at smacks of copying or emulating, but thats a step on the road to production in any genre... most of all techno.

Im sorry about some of my comments, TBH i DIDNT mean them personally, but then i dont KNOW you at all and its easy to pass verbal wind [quote chris here later..] but harder to know the person. im attacking your comments but not you. Like i said, i'll still take one in the face for a laugh, and get up and say the same things.

/rant

[MangaFish]

haven't you guys got spilt milk to cry over?
I'm pretty sure this thread was started as a joke so why's everyone taking a little thing like the pitch control to heart like an infidel calling names at Allah?

NB the best speed for techno is at 138.52983 reoccurring and played backwards

[MangaFish]

shall i tell you what dan...

It wasnt that he was being argumentative, its just he comes across this is a thread he cares little about i.e this is SUCH a boring internet topic and so old hat...

Well it ISNT ....its a production question and a good one at that. Tempo is a fundamental question and those who are interested in the nitty gritty are only to be applauded.

/rant

It is a boring internet topic though. some people like it fast, some like it slow. It's up to the DJ and producers to play / make the techno they like at the speed they like and if others take a shine to it then so be it.

next you'll be asking what key people prefer their percussion in or whats the optimum number of high hats per bar ;)

[Aratron]

It is a boring internet topic though. some people like it fast, some like it slow. It's up to the DJ and producers to play / make the techno they like at the speed they like and if others take a shine to it then so be it.

next you'll be asking what key people prefer their percussion in or whats the optimum number of high hats per bar ;)

if it so boring : a) why are you replying to it? b) why is it the most popular thread in here?

[massplanck]

next you'll be asking what key people prefer their percussion in or whats the optimum number of high hats per bar ;)

Next you'll be telling us you are complete dry arse who didnt read the whole thread.

[MangaFish]

i'm not replying to the question though, i'm commenting on the relevence of the subject matter.

heres a question for you: why are you being so argumentative? we're all brothers of techno here

(excuse the spelling. i dont have a spellchecker on my pocket pc)

[massplanck]

It is a boring internet topic though. some people like it fast, some like it slow. It's up to the DJ and producers to play / make the techno they like at the speed they like and if others take a shine to it then so be it.

OMG. What a revelation.

You think that we dont know this? My mother knows this.

Why dont you actually go and read the thread. ANYONE who took this seriously needs to leave BOA and join the police or get a job in a bank or something.

[massplanck]

bah. we all know we can listen to it all speeds. thats what the pitch is for on a deck. Im looking for OTS per squarekHz .

I am also having a laugh..

jaysus

[MangaFish]

Next you'll be telling us you are complete dry arse who didnt read the whole thread.
i didnt. its 7 pages long

[massplanck]

i'm not replying to the question though, i'm commenting on the relevence of the subject matter.


what? you are commenting on the relevence of the subject matter in a pisstake thread?

[massplanck]

i didnt. its 7 pages long

ok. just read the first page at least then before commenting on it.

[massplanck]

same goes for rowland the 150bpm all my life bastard.

[MangaFish]

ok. just read the first page at least then before commenting on it.
i read most of the 1st page before i realised how long the thread was. then i skipped to the back to see if this thread had stayed on topic. ;)

[MangaFish]

OMG. What a revelation.

You think that we dont know this? My mother knows this.

Why dont you actually go and read the thread. ANYONE who took this seriously needs to leave BOA and join the police or get a job in a bank or something.
hehe the person i quoted didnt :p

[Sunil]

125 bpm.

[Sunil]

170 bpm

[Sunil]

I think this is an interesting thread, not least for the fact that it's got some people quite hot under the collar.
Personally I like lots of different types of bpms, I think anyone who has settled on one exact bpm from which they'll never change, needs to ask themself some questions.

[MangaFish]

what? you are commenting on the relevence of the subject matter in a pisstake thread?

was i talking to you? No! So chill out

of course the subject matter is going to be stupid, that's why it's a pisstake thread. i know this, you know i know this - so why get shirty with me?

i hope this is the end of the matter because there's nothing more pointless than arguing with someone that agrees with you *rolleyes*

[prozac]

I I think anyone who has settled on one exact bpm from which they'll never change, needs to ask themself some questions.

agreed

[RDR]

It is a boring internet topic though. some people like it fast, some like it slow. It's up to the DJ and producers to play / make the techno they like at the speed they like and if others take a shine to it then so be it.

next you'll be asking what key people prefer their percussion in or whats the optimum number of high hats per bar ;)


It was a PRODUCTION question (thats my belief anyway) and such deserved a decent answer. Mostly thats what it got...

And as for we are all brothers of techno quip - in your dreams mate. We are NOT all brothers of techno and this is what gets my goat. People pretend to be yet are not, the attitude stinks. And YES my attitude DOES stink TOO. im man anough to admit that and man enough to qualify my comments.

After speaking to a close friend last night i realise i may have misjudged rowland personally and for that i sincerely apologise, i also apologise for effectively hijacking a thread with my rants. Sorry.

I stand by what i said about the response from rowland though, not the personal comments - but the negativity that smells. And why not take the thread seriously? It was a serious thread asked by someone who wanted to know.

If anyone wants my advice (i suspect you dont :laughing: ) i can be contacted via PMs, i've already done enough damage here and wont be taking part much in BOA activities generally in the near future.. and no i dont want people to say "Dont leave" it isnt one of 'those' pathetic threads begging for attention, i genuinley have commitments elsewhere that are sapping my time...

Have a nice day.

PS - TFI friday... :briggin:

[RDR]

@Sunil's comment about being stuck to a tempo


That doesnt include me mate - i gave my answers because someone asked, those are calculations i wrote C++ programs to achieve and work for the key's stated, mostly i dont use them because of sequencer issues but occasionally i do.

The figures i quoted and keys mean that the bass waves in those keys sit exactly on the quantise grid and the compression/refraction waves pump in time to the music thereby increasing the efficeincy of the waveform.

MOstly, like you said.. its whatever works.

[MangaFish]

And as for we are all brothers of techno quip - in your dreams mate. We are NOT all brothers of techno and this is what gets my goat. People pretend to be yet are not, the attitude stinks. And YES my attitude DOES stink TOO. im man anough to admit that and man enough to qualify my comments.


I really don't get you're point here. You trying to say that some of us listen to techno, DJ and/or produce techno, go to techno clubs and chat on techno forums yet do not like techno?

Or that you get so overly absorbed in your self need to be anal about the niche of techno you preach, that you've forgotten how to enjoy the music, the people and the scene?

[TechMouse]

Jaysus, did everyone simultaneously quit smoking or something?

Everybody taken up meth? Hopped up on 'roids? (Ste-, not haemor-)

[MangaFish]

Jaysus, did everyone simultaneously quit smoking or something?

Everybody taken up meth? Hopped up on 'roids? (Ste-, not haemor-)

innit. It's like watching a train wreck in motion

[TechMouse]

Grown men ready to kick off over.... tempo.

[MangaFish]

It's obviously a very sensitive subject. Like women’s periods and intelligent design.

[Jay Pace]

It's obviously a very sensitive subject. Like women’s periods and intelligent design.

:laughing:

[RDR]

I WASNT kicking off over tempo i was kicking off over attitudes... and negative comments.

[RDR]

I really don't get you're point here. You trying to say that some of us listen to techno, DJ and/or produce techno, go to techno clubs and chat on techno forums yet do not like techno?

Or that you get so overly absorbed in your self need to be anal about the niche of techno you preach, that you've forgotten how to enjoy the music, the people and the scene?

Err. no mate. I meant brotherhood - something you clearly know NOTHING about. i said me contribution is over and it is.

[MangaFish]

If you dont know what im saying by now then you'll never ****ing know will you.

READ what i wrote.

And no people are BITCHY and people ARE negative no matter what you think, attending an event or listening to a genre doesnt make people all the same, no matter what they say.

Ahh. Whatever man.

Follow your own goddamn path.

Jesus man, take some morphine or something. Instead of fighting fire with fire, why not try laughing off the bitchy comments?

[MangaFish]

Err. no mate. I meant brotherhood - something you clearly know NOTHING about. i said me contribution is over and it is.

Presumptions are the mother of all f*ck ups. ;-) I suggest next time you make your point clearer rather than resorting to childish retorts (something you have whinged about in this thread yet seem to be guilty of more so than most.)

I admit i don't always understand peoples point's 1st time. I try to but i have a problem following text (being dyslexic and all). Plus you've got people on here who English isn't their 1st language so they maybe slower to pick up on your points as well.
If this happens then take a deep breath and reiterate your point.
It maybe a chore, but it results in less heated posts about the state of peoples attitudes and ultimately less stress for yourself when people respond negatively to your bitching ;-)

Anyhow, It's Friday and i get to spend the whole weekend with my gorgeous girlfriend (long distance relationship) so i don't intend to let a silly thread like this get me down :D

[dan the acid man]

Bloomin eck, lets sum this post up.

It was started as a joke, some people carried on the joke, some people responded in a serious manner, both types of responses have been great, and this thread has been one of the few around here that's got people replying.
For the people that produce, forums like this are great for expanding our knowledge in the science of music production, and even a thread that was started as a joke can turn provide usefull info.

so lets stop the arguments before it gets too personal, as it's no use to any of us.

As for the brotherhood comment, i understood where dodgyedgy was coming from, but it's easy to pick up the wrong end of the stick.

[Sunil]

@Sunil's comment about being stuck to a tempo


That doesnt include me mate

I know that man ;)

[RDR]

@Mangafish - i take your comments man - you are right it was a pretty childish thing of me to say and im sorry, you are right on that and im wrong.

@Sunil - safe mate, no worries. my bad.

If its any explanation im trying to stop smoking and today has been a really stressful day.

[Aratron]

@Mangafish - i take your comments man - you are right it was a pretty childish thing of me to say and im sorry, you are right on that and im wrong.

@Sunil - safe mate, no worries. my bad.

If its any explanation im trying to stop smoking and today has been a really stressful day.

hey didgy you havent said anything wrong dude

dont worry about it

ffs

[crime]

god your all a bunch of pricks ;)

[crime]

UK prickno

[thetonewrecka]

How do I sign up Mark?

[robin m]

Time for another schranz is great / is shit thread I reckon :clown:

[eyeswithoutaface]

im confused. Handbags at 11 pages, and i wasnt involved?

this is a bizarre thread now, with a little blame on all sides really. Rowland, it was only the other week you were asking questions in threads too, in the is ghetto the new sound for techno kinda thread you did, so i dont see why you got so annoyed at this thread which was pretty obviously a bit of a rib tickler in the first place. I wouldnt say you were being quite as harsh as dodgedgy thinks but it was a little obnoxious maybe, as people have said to me often enough, if your not interested in it, dont post, and certainly dont post so negatively. There's just no point really. I've learnt that one, i only post on the things that interest me now really.

Chris, down tiger :) dont let it upset you so much, i can see your point but channel that energy into something positive like doing a tune, or some outdoor activities like garden hopping, egging or something a little more hardcore like pension pinching down the local post office.

Blackout's back with a bang certainly

[conflict]

letting off a display rocket in a phone box is always a good one

[dubs]

Is there any chance BOA can be turned into a soap?

[Aratron]

Is there any chance BOA can be turned into a soap?

one worse than neighbours?

[oldbugger]

average is working out at 137.807692307692307692307 OTS so far.

i made got this figure using microsoft calculator with a phaser plugin on the output.


i like to play at 2bpm.

that should sort the average out a little:;

[Mindful]

green somtimes not

[dirty_bass]

1

[SlavikSvensk]

i like to play at 2bpm.

that should sort the average out a little:;

or 17,453bpm

[The Overfiend]

This thread is why wars occur.
Difference in opinion.
But over tempo?
Man that's Awesome.

Me and Eyes fight over some pretty intense and petty stuff sometimes.
But Tempo?

[dan the acid man]

are you looking at my tempo? :colere: :oicamereyou:

[Delinquent Dialect]

200+ the beats go into self oscilation :D

[Siege]

135