View Full Version : Overrated DJs
now this will bring on some negativity just wondered peoples thoughts
there are a few DJs who I think are exceptionally overrated - I wondered what you all thought and care to name names?
I rate a DJ on tune selection more than mixing so the following has bias:
Matt Hardwich managed to bore myself and a wide variety of clubbers at a night in devon making us all stand there wondering "What?!?!?". Anne Savage is one who I think is extremely poor - though she did play some uberdruck stuff when I last saw her. I will also admit i'm not Ben Eye's biggest fan - i've only seen him a few times though and his tune selection did not grab me in the slightest. I do realise not everyone will agree with these comments but am giving my opinion.
Louk
french_og
19-10-2003, 09:38 AM
Beneye overated??? Sorry will have to disagree there- Underated more like, his track selection and mixing is quality.
DJ Pearcey
19-10-2003, 01:06 PM
Not like you to be negative about anything loukas!!
A dj who mixing is not of a very high standard is uberdruck,he's a great producer but when I saw him at academy last month he was very poor technically.
wenna
19-10-2003, 01:20 PM
the only time i get bored is when dj's 'overmix' tracks and loose the energy of them. for under-rated dj's i would go with dolphin or the producer. or m-zone even, when ppl dont know him.
fair play french og but i find other djs who play similar to ben eye more interesting and i know he has a wide variety of fans just stating my opinion.
i will list djs who i think are underrated in a moment and didnt intend this to be a slagging match just wanted peoples opinions.
pearcey im inclined to agree about uberdruck but thats only because the first time i saw him he played an amazing set and the second and third and forth time was basically that same set again with only 1 or two new tunes.
tune selection is what its all about to me.
Louk
DJ Pearcey
19-10-2003, 01:36 PM
the only time i get bored is when dj's 'overmix' tracks and loose the energy of them. for under-rated dj's i would go with dolphin or the producer. or m-zone even, when ppl dont know him.
m-zone is defo underated!! he's a top dj and producer, but underground usaually means underated.
Spooney
19-10-2003, 02:16 PM
Would agree with Ann Savage saw her play on friday her mixing was ****ing shit :dontevengothere: and she got paid £2000 for it!
tune selection is what its all about to me.
so to you, it doesnt matter if a dj is pulling off mixes that are double beated to f__k, aslong as the tunes float your boat, that makes him a good dj??? :doh:
actually, yeah
i'd rather listen to the worlds most incapble dj of beatmatching playing all the best tracks then mr perfect playing tunes that are so shite it defies all belief.
though there are djs that get both tune selection and mixing right and sound amazing :)
though there are djs that get both tune selection and mixing right and sound amazing :)
thats how it should be my friend ;)
DJ Corbzy
19-10-2003, 03:11 PM
I have to agree with Louk, Beneye in my opinion is overrated....
Hakka.
19-10-2003, 05:30 PM
I don't really know Ben Eye that well enough to judge...
Last time I saw him play was at the grove... he played similar stuff to what I play... his mixing was good in places but I think the grove setup was giving him trouble.
He must be pretty good to get where he is, but I've heard a lot of bad things about him though.
DJ Pearcey
19-10-2003, 09:40 PM
never met ben eye,not heard good things about him from other people though,but I wont jugde till I see the bloke play. sure si the sigh will have an opinion on this one on monday.
Esox Lucius
19-10-2003, 10:15 PM
techno wise, Tony Work from atomic jam, worst dj I have ever seen.
Downys in the hardtrance forum! :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:
Si the Sigh
20-10-2003, 08:47 AM
WTF?! :shock: DJ BenEye OVERRATED!? :lol: No way!
majortom
20-10-2003, 10:10 AM
you really need to see ben for your self, iv followed him since he first started at the country club, week in week out this bloke smashed the floor to pieces with tunes no one had even had a sniff of, not only that he played weekly 6 till 8 in the morning which is another job on its own.. nowadays i think he has to be one of the most upfront hard t djs there is in the uk playing test presses and cds that in some cases nobody else has, not even the bigger djs . beside that ben and his studio partner log one have been developing there own tunes over the past year, creating there own sound and style which is prooving to be a massive succsess. ben is one of my main residents and is booked on a monthly basis for diversity and trilogy you can allways garantee crowd satisfaction, if any body hasnt heard beneye and is curious then listen to him for your self, up and coming events will be soon listed on the forums cheers tomo
Si the Sigh
20-10-2003, 10:14 AM
Word! :clap:
Juice & Cally
Deffo Overated
Scorpio for his shocking Mixing but tune selection is quality in most cases
Drokz for his Mixing
Underated I would Say Abyss,Ben Eye,Ikon,
Esox Lucius
20-10-2003, 11:44 AM
Scorpio for his shocking Mixing
He's here, he's there, he's the dj with no hair....scorpio! :lol:
his mixing is baaaaaaaaaaad, why producer ever went b2b with him is beyond me!
i dont see how anyone can say Ben Eye is overated, his sets at the legendary Country Club used to get everyone back in from there cars outside! guranteed! a good dj, with a wicked taste in tunes no doubt!.
iain cross - i think iain is definitely underrated - this guy is the bollox!
he did a vs with Ben Eye @ the Country Club and kept him right on his toes! :clap:
fair play but i still hold the opinion he is overrated and i've seen him a few times now - to be fair I dont think he lives up to the hype that people were telling me before Ive seen him about how good he was. However I saw a few of the below on the same night and was blown away
Those that I reckon are underrated are Nick The Kid, Richard Wright, Soundfixation, Pearcey, Tim Daborn, Jon The Baptist + Iain Cross(starting to get the recognition they both deserve), Chris Davies, Dr J, Simon Davis and of course Botus Flemming + Hakka
Wragg deserves a mention too.
cheers 'en
Louk
DJ Pearcey
20-10-2003, 11:56 AM
you really need to see ben for your self, iv followed him since he first started at the country club, week in week out this bloke smashed the floor to pieces with tunes no one had even had a sniff of, not only that he played weekly 6 till 8 in the morning which is another job on its own.. nowadays i think he has to be one of the most upfront hard t djs there is in the uk playing test presses and cds that in some cases nobody else has, not even the bigger djs . beside that ben and his studio partner log one have been developing there own tunes over the past year, creating there own sound and style which is prooving to be a massive succsess. ben is one of my main residents and is booked on a monthly basis for diversity and trilogy you can allways garantee crowd satisfaction, if any body hasnt heard beneye and is curious then listen to him for your self, up and coming events will be soon listed on the forums cheers tomo
:clap: PASSION :clap:
PS Major Tom - no worries but I've seen ben so do have an opinion to form - im not saying he's a bad dj as he blatantly wouldnt be where he is if he was bad. However having the most upfront tunes no one has had a sniff of doesn't mean they are the best. I too have received many a promo and test press + CD-R to write about (and also play on the radio) sometimes direct from producers as soon as its done in the studio and that is no lie and fair play they might be the most upfront material but they are not necisarily the best - thats why if someone was to play stuff like "Dumonde - God Music" or even Jay Walker - Equinox in a set now i'd love it far more than a set of the most upfront promos that arent as good if you see what I mean? Do agree the stuff logan is producing is shit hot though happy days.
abyss too he is the man -t eh legendary welsh boyo
:)
Excellent stuff.
Louk
Si the Sigh
20-10-2003, 12:30 PM
Louk, Log:one & BenEye produce the EyeTrance stuff, so they are both worthy of a huge BIG UP! Having upfront tunes is NOT the be all and end all agreed, but IMO BenEye can smash a dance floor to pieces with his mixing, weather the tunes are old or new. Underrated IMO still!
Spooney
20-10-2003, 01:02 PM
I hadn't heard of Ben Eye untill I went to the country club, but I remember the first time I saw him play I was curious to who he was. His choice of tunes and mixing was spot on and to be honest I cant really remember a bad set from him at that club. Ive heard him play at other clubs and not been that impressed by his performance but I suppose every dj goes through a bit of a rough patch and I will always give them another chance to prove themselfs. I really couldn't say he was overated or underated, maybe just a bit hit and miss at the moment? Allthough he dosn't really get many bookings outside of the south west or the uk.
An extremely overated dj imo is m- zone I mean he's been around for years and his mixing is still awfull! You would have thought he'd have got better with years of experience? As for underated dj's ive gotta go with Abyss, Cross and Nick The Kid.
Spooney
20-10-2003, 01:12 PM
I also think Meri is an underated dj, I used to love his sets at the country club, havn't seen him play since the last one.
Si the Sigh
20-10-2003, 01:15 PM
BenEye, Meri, Cross & Spinout, Jon the Baptist, Chris Hare, Northern Roy, Aaron Thomas, Steve Hamlett ALL the Country Club residents were / are underrated. That club had the BEST residents ever, and they ALL set the standards for the guest DJ's that played every week. End of story :clap:
Spooney
20-10-2003, 01:25 PM
Couldn't agree with you more mate :clap: I wish it was still open.
Si the Sigh
20-10-2003, 01:28 PM
...Don't we all mate...Don't we all...
DJ RE:HAB
20-10-2003, 01:40 PM
Jon Connor
...Don't we all mate...Don't we all...
:cry:
de melza
20-10-2003, 03:12 PM
Spooney dont forget m-zone is deaf in one ear :shock: ive heard him mix excellently before and really bad, i guess it depends on the set up :dance:
lukekendall
20-10-2003, 03:35 PM
I think ben eye is a ****InG wIcKeD DJ!! I dont think he is over rated at all!!! he used to rock the place at the country club and made it the place it was!! along with the other C.C resisdents!! in my opinoin he is one of the best hard trance djs out there!! i have been to see him a lot of times in taunton and in bristol but to me he plays his best sets at the grove in seaton!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Spooney
20-10-2003, 03:48 PM
Sorry mate but thats gotta be the shitest excuse ever :doh: maybe he is deaf in one ear, but I dont see what thats gotta do with the way he approach's mixing. Ive seen him play bangin tunes that get the crowd goin and its coming up to the breakdown which is awsome and he mixes another tune into it before you hear it! To me mate thats just criminal! :nono:
Si the Sigh
20-10-2003, 03:53 PM
yea but look how popular the bloke is!
de Melza posts :lol: f__k me im gonna print that off and frame it! :lol:
de melza
20-10-2003, 04:21 PM
if carl ever goes out im gonna be so surprised i might pass out! :lol:
you miss me doncha Mel :lol: ;)
i've been raving more times than you've had hot dinners! ner ner :dance:
Spooney
20-10-2003, 04:27 PM
I know what you mean si.If you look at the old helter skelter packs there was only ever two trance tapes in an 8 pack most ov the time Mark EG and M-Zone then the rest would be hardcore. Back then he most def had his own style compared to Mark eg they might have played 1 or 2 ov the same tunes. I guess he was in the right place at the right time.
Luke Revival
20-10-2003, 06:31 PM
Hahahha Scorpio!
tune selection wasnt good. He had the same tunes in his bag for 4 years!
Fair play to him tho he got paid for it! hahaha..
Over rated.. Alex Kidd from Goodgreef.
Uberdruck...Maybe on technical ability but he pleases the crowd which makes up for it.
"Over rated.. Alex Kidd from Goodgreef. "
haha i've asked alex to do a guest mix for radio station - why do you say he's overrated - I'm not questioning your judgement incase you are wondering just curious...
Louk
majortom
20-10-2003, 10:10 PM
louk, which area does your radio station cover :?:
DJ Corbzy
20-10-2003, 11:08 PM
read this thread through and through and there are some excellent points made here, tommo - fair ****ing play for coming on a putting your pointacross, stick by these and thats all you need...for all of ben's supporters, fair play aswell, each to there own....
i'm glad this has been handled well, at the end of the day were all in it for the music.....
Yo Tom - the station is 1350 AM in yorkshire and covers Bradford / Leeds you can also listen online at www.ramairfm.co.uk
Im sure the music I play will make people think "bah he int good!!" but give it a try im on tomorrow 8 till 9!!
Louk
Luke Revival
21-10-2003, 12:15 AM
"Over rated.. Alex Kidd from Goodgreef. "
haha i've asked alex to do a guest mix for radio station - why do you say he's overrated - I'm not questioning your judgement incase you are wondering just curious...
Louk
Tunes are ok/average...Mixing in clubs is generally poor...
Occasionally good but not often.
Ive seen this Alex Kidd A Few times and he just seems to play 6 month old tunes,
Its like hes Playing a Set that M-Zone would have played in feb/march this year, If ya get me!!!
And his mixing wasnt that good when Ive seen him play at Both Vibealites i went too,
french_og
21-10-2003, 10:41 AM
I think Lisa Lashes is the most overarted DJ, don't think she would of got anywhere without her Huge Tits!!!!
hahahha forgot about her nice one tim - im not a fan of most the tidy DJs - i've seen guyver play an excellent set then a very shocking one in succession though i'll admit I do like it when Tara Reynolds plays.
Louk
Luke Revival
22-10-2003, 06:25 PM
Ive seen this Alex Kidd A Few times and he just seems to play 6 month old tunes,
Its like hes Playing a Set that M-Zone would have played in feb/march this year, If ya get me!!!
And his mixing wasnt that good when Ive seen him play at Both Vibealites i went too,
More like he plays new tunes but them doesnt empty hs bag for months.
Then a new set, for 6 months, then a new set for 6 months....
Si the Sigh
23-10-2003, 09:31 AM
Juice & Cally. Seriously overrated. :rambo:
Do agree they are a wee bit overrated - i thought I enjoyed their set at hindsight in december and played the tape pack of it back and then realised how wrecked I must have been!
Louk
Spooney
23-10-2003, 03:16 PM
They have got so many fans here in the land of sheep, it pickles me :doh:
DJCraig Ryan
08-11-2003, 12:29 PM
Anne Savage is deffo poor. She always hammers the 'Drop-ins' aswell. Every mix dropping beats and the off-beats in the breaks. Sounds alright but she over does it. Mixing is poor aswell especially technically.
Uberdruck: I dont see how they can be poor technically. With them being so good producers, obviously what im saying is they know how to EQ their tunes. They know how to get the best out off the Basslines etc etc so i thought technically they would be very good??
Eddie Halliwell: ive heard alot off good stuff bout him. Personally dont like him, but maybe feel he is Underated??
Tim Hidgem
09-11-2003, 12:24 PM
I just wanna say that myself and the rest of the Religion/GAS UK crew have worked very closely with Tommo and Ben Eye etc from Triology and Club Diversity for the past 12 months.
Although I agree with Louk about the newest tunes not always being the best I personally feel Ben is a very worthy DJ and even though I'm sure you can pick faults with him (as with every other Dj in the UK) he has worked hard enough to get himself into a postion were clubbers and Dj's from all around the country are disscussing his skills. Repect is due!!
Overated DJ - Alex Kidd.
Tim
fair comment ! I cant pick faults with every dj in the uk being that I dont dj out just i was really disappointed in ben's sets and still am.
No worries mind as it's only 1 opinion at the end of the day.
Louk
Si the Sigh
21-11-2003, 11:45 AM
I just wanna say that myself and the rest of the Religion/GAS UK crew have worked very closely with Tommo and Ben Eye etc from Triology and Club Diversity for the past 12 months.
Although I agree with Louk about the newest tunes not always being the best I personally feel Ben is a very worthy DJ and even though I'm sure you can pick faults with him (as with every other Dj in the UK) he has worked hard enough to get himself into a postion were clubbers and Dj's from all around the country are disscussing his skills. Repect is due!!
Respect due for your words mate! ;) :clap:
and in all fairness when has 1 opinion ever changed anything?
Louk
Si the Sigh
21-11-2003, 11:49 AM
my opinion to change my mind & have a cheese & pickle sarnie instead of cheese & ham changed a lot mate. i had a nicer sarnie! ;) :lol:
wicked im still goign to get those chips damn you
Louk
Tim Hidgem
21-11-2003, 01:25 PM
my opinion to change my mind & have a cheese & pickle sarnie instead of cheese & ham changed a lot mate. i had a nicer sarnie! ;) :lol:
Hahahahaha! As funny as you like. Hahahahaha! :clap:
Tim Hidgem
21-11-2003, 01:27 PM
and in all fairness when has 1 opinion ever changed anything?
Louk
To true Louk. ;)
majortom
24-11-2003, 03:11 PM
louk mate where have you seen ben play :?:
at lunatec + hindsight and heard various tape packs with him on.
cheers
Louk
Si the Sigh
24-11-2003, 03:31 PM
Never go by tape packs mate! Mark EG will tell you that! I used to think Mark was shit from the Helter Skelter, Dreamscape tapes, etc; but in club conditions he's amazing! Don't judge DJ's on tape packs. Have you been on the starge to play the 1st set at Hindsight when theres no one there for the 1st hour? Check out the sound on stage at that time (when Ben has played everytime) and you will see what I mean. You should pop to the Grove or the Showbar and witness BenEye play then. Believe me, you'll hear a different DJ.
DJ Corbzy
24-11-2003, 03:39 PM
I agree Si.... ;)
Si the Sigh
24-11-2003, 03:42 PM
Did you enjoy Ben's set on Friday Corbz? :eh:
DJ Corbzy
24-11-2003, 04:03 PM
Yeah man, he's a cunt for getting all the lush tunage before anyone...Tune ID's from that set would also be great ;)
Respest due to the Eye :clap:
Tim Hidgem
24-11-2003, 06:27 PM
Respest due to the Eye :clap:
:clap:
EmotionComplex
24-11-2003, 06:50 PM
Never go by tape packs mate! Mark EG will tell you that! I used to think Mark was shit from the Helter Skelter, Dreamscape tapes, etc; but in club conditions he's amazing! Don't judge DJ's on tape packs. Have you been on the starge to play the 1st set at Hindsight when theres no one there for the 1st hour? Check out the sound on stage at that time (when Ben has played everytime) and you will see what I mean. You should pop to the Grove or the Showbar and witness BenEye play then. Believe me, you'll hear a different DJ.
yeah man, ive heard some harsh tape packs in my time :shock: but the same djs playing imaculate sets on others recorded in other clubs, a lot of them are badly recorded aswell
sorry guys but i go on tune selection too so i stand by what i say!! ben from those tape packs and when i've heard him makes me think he's overrated :)
Louk
p.s i was actually at the hindsights for the first hour to hear ben and i didnt like him that nite.
All the other djs i mentioned are quality though.
Louk
Barely Human
24-11-2003, 07:28 PM
Scorpio for his shocking Mixing
He's here, he's there, he's the dj with no hair....scorpio! :lol:
his mixing is baaaaaaaaaaad, why producer ever went b2b with him is beyond me!
Word! Scorpio is one cheesy as shite piece of shit! He never did anything to push the scene. Just played cheesy hardcore so all the girlylies would love him, and he cant mix for shit!
Si the Sigh
25-11-2003, 08:14 AM
Cheesy hardcore? Scorpio? :eh:
Si the Sigh
25-11-2003, 08:17 AM
Yeah man, he's a cunt for getting all the lush tunage before anyone...Tune ID's from that set would also be great ;)
Respest due to the Eye :clap:
Tune ID's? Well there was the opening tune, the new track by Chris Hare, there were a few from Log:one, one of Ben's, and lashings of creamy dreamy brand spanking new GAS tracks. And I have got to say it once again, the GAS releases just get better & better! :clap:
on the subject of underrated djs i have to say will gold is pretty much not getting the recognition he should do considering how good his cds are and sets have been when i've heard him play.
cheers
Louk
Si what's chris's new tune called??
Louk
nickyblueeyes
25-11-2003, 04:44 PM
on the subject of underrated djs i have to say will gold is pretty much not getting the recognition he should do considering how good his cds are and sets have been when i've heard him play.
:dontevengothere: probably get slated for this but ive only heard will gold once and really didnt rate the set that high. it was @xposure a few months back. as i said tho this is the only time ive heard him play so cant really give that good an opionon
Tim Hidgem
25-11-2003, 06:55 PM
on the subject of underrated djs i have to say will gold is pretty much not getting the recognition he should do considering how good his cds are and sets have been when i've heard him play.
cheers
Louk
Good call Louk!! :clap: :lol:
was well impressed with his sets at premonition and cds i've had from himself and you ever since!
got 2 more from him today which have been annoying my housemates
Louk
Si the Sigh
25-11-2003, 08:06 PM
Si what's chris's new tune called??
Louk
...i don't know the name of it? will find out. it's only on CD-R mate, but it's fu*king quality! that bad ass rabbit boy's done a good'un again! ;) :clap:
Addict
26-11-2003, 12:55 PM
I would definitley agree that Cally and Juice are over rated, as are most of the German producers but at the end of the day they'll have tunes that no one else will, and Chris's new tune is proper amazing, very different from his fist two releases!
Si the Sigh
26-11-2003, 01:30 PM
...and i'll second everything you just said mate (except that bit about Chris's FIST two releases... :lol: )
Addict
26-11-2003, 01:31 PM
:lol: oh yeah :oops:
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