who thinks mark eg should.....

[tonyc2002]

.......do us a classic mix with all the old belters as a lasting high quality recording of the sounds of yester-year? :cheese: :cheese: :cheese:

[DJ Asylum]

That is a good shout! Think a pm is in order :laughing:

[tonyc2002]

That is a good shout! Think a pm is in order :laughing:

get on it dude :cool:

[mattshephard]

yeah go on mark!

[djfase]

Cracking idea that

[Spacehopper]

definitely!!!!!!!!!!

[Ashley]

Too right :cheese:

[DJCraig Ryan]

Yeah come on Mark PLEASE!!!!! Your mix of Brainstorm is the best mix i own

[TeknoJunkie]

aye, he got a point there Mark E.G m8, your mix on the Brainstorm is wayyyyyy better than Sharkey's LOL!!!

[digitalboy]

yeh count me in.:protest: :laughing:

[DJCraig Ryan]

H E L L O M A R K .........................?

[DJ Asylum]

hahaha think he is body swerving us :crackup: :laughing:

[tonyc2002]

mark will probaly just go "i dont play old stuff anymore blah blah blah, give me some ardstyle and some techno blah blah blah, its important to keep advancing the music blah blah blah!" :laughing:



sorry mark :ohdear: :cheese:

[DJ Asylum]

:haha:

[mattshephard]

yeah the fact that I havent seen mark playing an old skool hard trance set (93-99) since he played b2b with mick at extreme @ the void in 2001 says a lot. I appreicate music progresses and the need to look forward keeps the scene healthy but Im guessing that if mark played an old skool tarnce set at a big night youd see a pretty busy room. The fact is I stopped buying & playing hard trance & hardstyle 2.5 years ago and Ive checked latest stuff comign out now and again and it sounds gash. The hardstlye is too screachy and seems to mass produced cr.ap so apart from techno im not really buying any new stuff. Im going off on one here but just be interesting to here what mark has to say about it

[DJCraig Ryan]

yeah the fact that I havent seen mark playing an old skool hard trance set (93-99) since he played b2b with mick at extreme @ the void in 2001 says a lot. I appreicate music progresses and the need to look forward keeps the scene healthy but Im guessing that if mark played an old skool tarnce set at a big night youd see a pretty busy room. The fact is I stopped buying & playing hard trance & hardstyle 2.5 years ago and Ive checked latest stuff comign out now and again and it sounds gash. The hardstlye is too screachy and seems to mass produced cr.ap so apart from techno im not really buying any new stuff. Im going off on one here but just be interesting to here what mark has to say about it



Fully agree with you mate as would alot of other people aswell. Good points made there. Im Hard Trance through and through but the stuff at the minute is no where near as good in my honest opinion. I have not been buying no-where near as much as i use to. My fav sound goes back to 2000-2004. The old Kramers & co/Scot Projects/S.H.O.K.K's/Flutlitchs/Hennes & Cold etc etc. Tunes like Jam X 'Das Licht' and Marc La Cruz 'Future Prison, i could go on forever. I also like the 98 and 99 sound (Brainstorm)

Now i am not saying that all Hard Trance at the min is shit, there is still some quality from the likes of Kamui, Scot Project etc but it doesnt compare to what i have mentioned above.

So yeah it would be interesting to hear Mark's views. (And hopefully a mix)

[DJ Asylum]

I appreicate music progresses and the need to look forward keeps the scene healthy but Im guessing that if mark played an old skool tarnce set at a big night youd see a pretty busy room.

Just one or two old skool tunes dropped subtly into his sets every now and again would blow the roof.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

i do agree, the hard trance of yesterday outdoes alot of today's music in originality. i was listening back to some of my records the other day and was actually feeling very, very sad that the music has lost that particular feeling that hard trance used to have (especially that of the time unlimited/music research era). i mean even the hard trance coming out now is either bad overdose/scot project rip offs or, well just rips off. i do desperately want that feeling back in music but without a full record box of stuff that sounds like that in my sets, i just can't put it in my sets. i really don't want to be an 'old school' dj, cause it simply wouldn't interest me. sure it might be nice for a few months but after a while you'd be playing the same old records. it's the searching for new music that really interests me in my life, getting that track through the post and then trying to fit it into your box at the time. see what i mean?

also, everyone's version of old school is so very different. i've been playing hard trance since 1994, so that's like 13 years of different types, different feelings and different sounds. wouldn't that be one hell of a confused dancefloor????? hehe lol

you know, i do want to do a mix of some old school stuff for here but knowing me (it's the same with all my home recorded mixes) it would take me 2 months of planning and about 3 days of solid mixing getting the mix right. i really am a perfectionist when it comes to shit like that. ok leave it with me, perhaps it will inspire me in the studio too. i was thinking recently how i need to get back into writing a form of new hard trance, inspired from the old days, this seems a good way to do it.

:cool:

[LEE.S.I]

think the same way myslef,what was it about "back in the day" hard trance as they say that isnt the same today?

nice one if you get a set up.....eventually lol :P

[Richierush]

it really does upset me when i listen to an old set an think all of these tunes you'll never hear in a rave ever again,its ok listenin too a tune at home but its not the same as blasted out in a rave :whoops:

[tonyc2002]

nice one marky!

[tonyc2002]

think the same way myslef,what was it about "back in the day" hard trance as they say that isnt the same today?

nice one if you get a set up.....eventually lol :P


i think simplicity played a big part in the sound. simple but effective melodies, coupled with tough drum and percussion patterns. i think the fact that alot of producers at the time were working within the limitations of there equipment also shaped the character of alot of records.

also, what made those old sets exciting for me was the diversity...how one tune would perfectly compliment the next (which is partly down to the dj of course) but its more than that. the tunes were completely different but at the same time kept a feeling of continuity and momentum.

[DJ Asylum]

Cheers for the reply Mark :;

Must agree totally with u there Tony! The variety in the sound "back then" is what gets me. U very rarely got 2 records that sounded the same. The kicks, drums, melodies all had there "own" sound.
Whereas now, with all the technology etc blah blah, it all sounds like every producer has the same hymn book and can never think about changing. Just churning out stuff that sounds very much the same time after time.

Why it is? i dont know. The same producers are still here, but look at what some of them produce now!!! Look at Gollum & Gary D for instance, i mean WTF!! From the stuff they make now u wonder how they managed to produce so many classics!

Anyroads, i'm going to bed now to cry myself to sleep! Long live the Old Skool sound!! :cheese:

p.s. Mark! if u need a hand to pick out some tunes for a mix, give me a shout and i will gladly look through ur collection for ya :cheese: :;

[dizauda]

i really don't want to be an 'old school' dj, cause it simply wouldn't interest me. sure it might be nice for a few months but after a while you'd be playing the same old records. it's the searching for new music that really interests me in my life, getting that track through the post and then trying to fit it into your box at the time. see what i mean?

Top man for getting back to us.

I think we all understand your reasons and dont blame you in regard to the above quote I dont think any of us would want youto stop doing what you do just to become and oldskool dj, but would it be that big a deal to play a full out oldkool set a couple of times a year.

Would keep us old farts happy and would break things up for you a lil bit more and tbh you would have a great time re-living a few emotions that have brought you along your journey or musical enlightenment

I love the old sound and new stuff but often kick myself that I was 2 young to enjoy a good dance to you playing a set of tunes I love from around late 96-99.

[Spacehopper]

well said dizauda.....agree totally there.

[mattshephard]

cheers for reply mark. I break 'old skool trance' into three parts really. 93-96, 97-99 then 2000-2003. Think the age you are depends on what your version of old skool is. I got into hard trance when I heard marks dreamscape 21 set in my first tape pack I bought in early 96 so 93-96 will always be my version of old skool trance.

[Richierush]

yeah 97-99 is my era of old skool hardtrance

[DJCraig Ryan]

Again nice one for the reply Mark, and look forward to the mix. Some good points made in this thread. Fully agree with matt when he puts it into parts. Im into the newer old skool sound starting from 98/99-2003/4

[DJ Asylum]

I think we all understand your reasons and dont blame you in regard to the above quote I dont think any of us would want youto stop doing what you do just to become and oldskool dj, but would it be that big a deal to play a full out oldkool set a couple of times a year.


Yeah man, couldnt agree more!

Regarding time spans, i am only really into anything before 2001. I personally feel it took a big nose dive after that, but the sound around 1996-97 really blows me away!! :cool:

[tonyc2002]

97-99 for me i reckon although i remember a certain mark eg tape from a limited edition hs pack that popped up around 95/96 which was pretty wicked :)

[Spacehopper]

strings of life and the final countdown nye 98 are my favourite sets of mark from helter skelter. id pay a lot of money to witness sets like them again coz it makes me sick i was too young to go

[Dj Nafe]

Mark u need to do more Old skool set, now and again. Iv'e miss all the best years of hard trance(too young like Spacehopper said) i would love 2 rave 2 the classics 98-99. The sound these days is more pushing to techno.

[Richierush]

strings of life and the final countdown nye 98 are my favourite sets of mark from helter skelter. id pay a lot of money to witness sets like them again coz it makes me sick i was too young to go


strings of life was class an i luved mc sharky on the mic(not a massive mc fan) an the tunes where amazin especially the last one plastic enermy- peaceful harmony an sharky with a gdu lyric :cheese:

[Luz]

I am 28 and so just about remember the "good old days" of hard trance :), oh how much have i spent on driving to clubs in obscure locations, vinyl and tape packs etc... who cares, no other music comes close to what i call proper hard trance!!!!! - I used to travel the country looking for Mark Eg, M-zone, Ribbz, 3dom, Dolphin, fergus, Sharkey etc. One of the best nights of techno I ever saw was when Mark EG played some small club in penzance (in teh middle of nowhere really!). Just an excellent night, about a two and a half hour set from him, no MC, just the music and him going nuts!! Just glad I was able to hear so witness so many classic sets and am now glad PCs make it easy for us to share the music...

[Exocet]

also, everyone's version of old school is so very different. i've been playing hard trance since 1994, so that's like 13 years of different types, different feelings and different sounds. wouldn't that be one hell of a confused dancefloor????? hehe lol

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lol my oldschool hard trance is stuff like the millenium jam era!!! got me hooked from day 1 lol!!! tunes like that 'back in paradise' jobbie and that mental tune with the sample in it 'in four of these leagues it will be my desision whether to continue the journey or not' not sure what its called tho........ are these tunes still available (question from the department of the hopelesly vain lol)

[mattshephard]

lol my oldschool hard trance is stuff like the millenium jam era!!! got me hooked from day 1 lol!!! tunes like that 'back in paradise' jobbie and that mental tune with the sample in it 'in four of these leagues it will be my desision whether to continue the journey or not' not sure what its called tho........ are these tunes still available (question from the department of the hopelesly vain lol)

Yeah check on ebay mate there not that rare. Anyway the tunes you mentioned are:

Fridge - 'Paradise' - on Red Alert or Go for It labels

DJ Jam X - 'Keep it that Way' - Chaos

[DJ Asylum]

"Keep it that way" top tune!

Mission Impossible thats from innit??

[Exocet]

Yeah check on ebay mate there not that rare. Anyway the tunes you mentioned are:

Fridge - 'Paradise' - on Red Alert or Go for It labels

DJ Jam X - 'Keep it that Way' - Chaos

thanks mate much appreciated!!!!!: )

[tonyc2002]

youll probaly want the "pulsedriver remix" :)

[tonyc2002]

*cough* ahem.......BUMP!

/nag

:cheese: