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SYS
19-11-2003, 10:03 AM
As i am running the dutch label SYS-X [maybe you have heard of it somewhere] i am really curious as to know if there are any good producers out there in the UK?

I dare any UK producer to produce some decent track which i could release on Sys-X .


Anyone up for a challenge or is it only talk and no game ;)

Shichi
19-11-2003, 10:05 AM
Have a look in the 'trance filez' bit mate ;)

some good tracks in there!

Si the Sigh
19-11-2003, 10:05 AM
Check out the Trance Filez section on here mate. Take a listen to some of the stuff being produced by people on this board. ;)

IAIN_CROSS
19-11-2003, 11:14 AM
Yo man....

Check out this home page.....

WWW.HIGHFISHRECORDINGS.CO.UK

Some of us are already signed to FUTURE SOUND CORPORATION in Italy.
And have had releases on UK labels as NU ENERGY - ALIEN TRAX - DE NOVO - SECTIONED - WAXWORXX - and TONKA.

Have a check mate :lol:

SYS
19-11-2003, 11:16 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, but i have to say two thinbgs to this.

A : maybe i am lazy if i say this, but i don't have the time to listen to all contributions, since i have some business to run :doh: and find myself loads of not so good tunes [have stepped into the listening trap on the net to many times to do it again]
B : If the tunes are placed on the net for who knows how long it is not really interesting for a company to release it anymore.
Oh gosh a revelation which will shock the people who believe this is a good way of getting a serious labelcontract, but the majority of labels think alike.Its like bying a new car which already everybody has driven, if you catch my drift [hope i don't offend anybody, which is not my goal, just a tip for people trying to get a deal]
C : Anybody really serious will take the effort of sending a democd with new uheared material, you know where to send it.

SYS
19-11-2003, 11:20 AM
Actually that where 3 comments :lol:

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 12:29 PM
Excuse me here but the way you go about this is quite rude....

Si the Sigh
19-11-2003, 12:33 PM
word! :evil:

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 12:36 PM
Yeah I mean you don't come on here and 'dare' producers to make tracks for your label and then reply after saying that your not willing to listen to peoples work :nono: ....thats if you are even the owner of SYS.

If your devoted to music and your label you will take the time to listen to peoples work and give good honest feedback.

Si the Sigh
19-11-2003, 12:38 PM
Well said Corbz! The HighFish crew are saying your welcome to check their stuff out and invite you to check out their site & work and your not going to unless they send you a demo? If your asking for people productions, don't you think YOU should be checking them out? :eh: :?: :evil:

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 12:40 PM
High Fish tunes are too good for SYS-X anyway.... :clap:

Si the Sigh
19-11-2003, 12:43 PM
nah, i would say too trance for this ggezer, unless there's a hardstyle fish afloating in Weymouth bay... :?: :eh: :lol:

lukekendall
19-11-2003, 12:43 PM
High Fish tunes are too good for SYS-X anyway.... :clap:

Mind contoller, mind controller!!!!! :eh:

Shichi
19-11-2003, 12:46 PM
[quote="SYS"]
B : If the tunes are placed on the net for who knows how long it is not really interesting for a company to release it anymore.
Oh gosh a revelation which will shock the people who believe this is a good way of getting a serious labelcontract, but the majority of labels think alike.Its like bying a new car which already everybody has driven, if you catch my drift [hope i don't offend anybody, which is not my goal, just a tip for people trying to get a deal]
quote]

I think you'll find that the tracks promoted in the trance filez are for blackoutaudio members to listen to and give honest feedback on them, not to try and promote the track so everyone knows about it :nono:

baptismo
19-11-2003, 01:14 PM
I think you'll find that the tracks promoted in the trance filez are for blackoutaudio members to listen to and give honest feedback on them, not to try and promote the track so everyone knows about it :nono:

defo agree with ya bud

SYS
19-11-2003, 01:38 PM
Sorry if you read my posts as being rude, That really is not my intention.
I was just being honest by saying my motivations the way i think about it.If you think this is rude, you really don't think the way i do, because i am def. not a rude person.

That being said, again i really do not have the time to listen to all the tracks found in that area, however i already explained my motivations and i was hoping you would understand my point of view instead that of the producers side.

You ask me to listen to it if i want good producers.
I challenged to send us good tunes if people want to have a record deal.
So i can ask you the same - Do you or do you not want to appear as an artist on a label?

the fact that i dare to ask people to send me some stuff is already an unusual thing for me to do, but i did this in an impulsive mood.

It was just a question ment to invoke a positive reaction, since i don't see many releases coming from the UK.
And if anybody in here who is from the UK thinks that the only thing you need to do is throw your tune on the net in a forum and then wait till a company appears at your front door i start to think i found the reason why there are so little UK labels or producers of this music.

Before you start to get mad, again this is not meant to be rude, i only try to start a serious conversation, since i usually also don't mingle in forums since people tend to not really understand ones point of view [which is prob. because you're not talking face to face, which leads to misunderstandings of ones true thoughts]
Also i am way to busy with other things [ i started the conversation so i hope to close it as well although it is prob going to take too much time i could put in other things]

I hope i made myself clear enough to get some positive reactions instead of feeling to have to defend my reasons which are as honest i can think of.

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 01:45 PM
You know... We have producers from all over the world posting tracks on here from both the techno and trance camps and there's plenty of labels which have signed them up and been totally pleased of hearing some quality music on the net. I respect the point - net released tracks are not commercially viable but a forum like ours that has a bunch of serious dedicated members and music producers, does not damage sales but does exactly the opposite! Hmmmm, some very strange comments from the SYS label (and yes, it is them cause I set the account up for them), I'm interested in hearing them open up a little bit more about this.

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 01:46 PM
seems like you beat me to the post Mr SYS!!! hehehe

Si the Sigh
19-11-2003, 01:48 PM
seems like you beat me to the post Mr SYS!!! hehehe

*si laughs at marks cheeky laugh & awaits mr sys to reply*

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 01:52 PM
The problem in the hard trance movement has always been that the UK is crap at producing anything other than UK influenced wishy washy trance. It the good old days of quality German hard trance I remember being one of the only UK artists ever to have a release on a German label in their style and I think the same problem is happening with hardstyle. The UK version of hardstyle is actually way to melodic for the Dutch. That said, there are some talented UK producers (Jon The Baptist for one) that has the potental to release on a label such as SYS but need to take the UK/German orientated melodies out of their tracks.

That said, it might be interesing for people who know the SYS label and have done some tracks to take them up on this challenge and post some links to things they might like. But my guess is, it's going to be a while since they find any releasable UK stuff.

SYS
19-11-2003, 02:15 PM
Exactly mark.
I am interested to find out if there actually are UK producers out there who share the same vibe as what we like to release.

As said before [and pob you know this] i run a company with several labels one of being which is called Sys-X.

As i have listened to many tracks on the net and also released some of them [yes i do actaully listened to some of them] i have found that in my case this is way to time consuming because 99% of the stuff i have taken the effort of listening to was really crap [honestly] or just didn't fit on any of our labels.

If i would have to sit down and actually listen to all music on the net i would prob have to live like an extra traziljonair more years to hear it all.
that's why i [and other companies] ask people to send stuff which they think fits sort of in the line a label runs things.

I have heard so many times of supposedly good tracks really in the line of one of my lables i should chack out to find that they didn't even come close to what the label carries to put more time in these things.

I have always enjoyed my UK and scottish visits and therefore i would really like to carry 1 or more UK artists on our label.

This is just a tip i give to people.
Companies just don't have the time to check everything, and i am aware of the internet community, but you really should try to also look at it from the other side.
People nowadays seem to think that the net is the place where everything is being done and is being watched all the time, but really, think about it for a minute and then you will discover that there actually is a completely different world out there of people who think different than the internet attitude.
[I also am a real internet pro, since the beginning of the net, but have to face this every now and then myself as well]
the net is a godsgift but on the other hand also the complete opposite if you know what i mean.


Did i make myself a bit more clear maybe? [mark]

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 02:31 PM
much clearer!

Jay M
19-11-2003, 02:35 PM
:)

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 02:52 PM
jay, you've just done that track for fsc. post this guy a link immediately! actually now i think of it, there's loads of good tracks you guys on the forum have done. in my last post i'm obviously talking out of my anus. come on - let's get some sys action going on in here.

Si the Sigh
19-11-2003, 03:01 PM
:rambo:~Yarr!

baptismo
19-11-2003, 04:49 PM
Fair play Mr SYS, totally see your point... i see this forum as a bit of a special one, as its full of really good people who are close friends with each other ansd they do post tracks up just to show others, not for commercial use.
I reckon ya should browse through the files sections mate :lol:

Tim Hidgem
19-11-2003, 05:38 PM
Fair play Mr SYS, totally see your point... i see this forum as a bit of a special one, as its full of really good people who are close friends

:clap:

Paul Nisbet
19-11-2003, 06:23 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, but i have to say two thinbgs to this.

A : maybe i am lazy if i say this, but i don't have the time to listen to all contributions, since i have some business to run :doh: and find myself loads of not so good tunes [have stepped into the listening trap on the net to many times to do it again]
B : If the tunes are placed on the net for who knows how long it is not really interesting for a company to release it anymore.
Oh gosh a revelation which will shock the people who believe this is a good way of getting a serious labelcontract, but the majority of labels think alike.Its like bying a new car which already everybody has driven, if you catch my drift [hope i don't offend anybody, which is not my goal, just a tip for people trying to get a deal]
C : Anybody really serious will take the effort of sending a democd with new uheared material, you know where to send it.

Yeah mate, SYS aint all that mate.

Paul Nisbet
19-11-2003, 06:35 PM
jon the baptist, is the local hero (in the uk for now)

Force 9 although only one track in i think are deffo a more of a hybrid for the european sound... harder ultimately and more of a hardstyle influence...

Deffo capable of producing a sound like High voltage - bombs away... kinda no prisoners, hard as **** madness!

SYS
19-11-2003, 06:55 PM
DOn't think i quite understand what you mean with

"Yeah mate, SYS aint all that mate."

???

Jay M
19-11-2003, 07:00 PM
Force 9 although only one track in i think are deffo a more of a hybrid for the european sound... harder ultimately and more of a hardstyle influence...

Deffo capable of producing a sound like High voltage - bombs away... kinda no prisoners, hard as **** madness!

cheers Paul

Carl
19-11-2003, 07:12 PM
i think he means they arent nothing special!

Carl
19-11-2003, 07:14 PM
Force 9 although only one track in i think are deffo a more of a hybrid for the european sound... harder ultimately and more of a hardstyle influence...

Deffo capable of producing a sound like High voltage - bombs away... kinda no prisoners, hard as **** madness!

cheers Paul

Los Muertos is a kicking track. like previously pointed out it has a very hardstyle type influence, with a proper hennes and cold style bassline and trippy as you like riff. good shit :lol:

Paul Nisbet
19-11-2003, 07:33 PM
DOn't think i quite understand what you mean with

"Yeah mate, SYS aint all that mate."

???

No sorry mate, i read ur earlier posts without reading the last one u made...

i also got the impression u were being a tad cheeky... when posting originally...

It means, that i thought u were being overconfident with the labels status when coming on and wat i thought was taking the piss out of the uk scene and its producers.

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 10:25 PM
The problem in the hard trance movement has always been that the UK is crap at producing anything other than UK influenced wishy washy trance.

:shock: No way man....

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 10:53 PM
you know what i mean. they always put these wishy washy swirls and dreamy melodies in their production. actually i probably said that wrong. i don't mean wishy washy as in crap cause i love uk hard trance, but german trance is alot tougher and less melodic. that's what i was trying to say. whoops didn't come across very well on that one. :cry:

Carl
19-11-2003, 10:55 PM
the germans definitely know the score when it comes to hardtrance !!!

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 10:56 PM
I think thats one perception of the scene you should keep to yourself man....UK trance is quality....

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 10:58 PM
i didn't say uk trance wasn't quality - i love it, i play it and i review it. i've supported and lived it for years.

but if was to describe the uk hard trance i'd say it was swirlier, wishy.. it's like being in a washing machine compared to german hard trance - you know what i mean you silly ass.

why should i keep my thoughts on this to myself?

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:03 PM
maybe some people like swirly wishy trance, maybe thats what were good at?

yeah your right, dont keep it to yourself, freedom of speech innit...

oh and its your forum, :lol:

Paul Nisbet
19-11-2003, 11:05 PM
you know what i mean. they always put these wishy washy swirls and dreamy melodies in their production. actually i probably said that wrong. i don't mean wishy washy as in crap cause i love uk hard trance, but german trance is alot tougher and less melodic. that's what i was trying to say. whoops didn't come across very well on that one. :cry:

Yeah man, i kinda gotta disagree.

This time last year i would ave agreed... but this year imo has seen the uk scene take huge steps to make the same grade as the euro scene, its not quite there yet imo, dont get me wrong. But credit where credit is due.......

Whoever thought a tune like transynergy would come out of the uk... come on... this imo is one of the break thru tunes that is gonna see the uk scene get noticed... make others realise its not the wishy washy scene that it once was... Marcos, digital pressure, jon the baptist... ave all came on leaps and bounds, and i can honestly say that "Even horizon" and "transynergy" have been up there with the best of the european hard trance.

German stuff is at a stand still at the mo, if u ask me... im not unrealistic in thinkin that we are not too far off achieveing the same kinda sound with our own touch.

A lot of the most foul sounding cheese has come out of germany and italy imo... so we cant really condemn our own scene when really at this present time, no one is really doing better!!!!

Some of the tunes coming out of the likes of suntec and nukleuz black have really pissed me off, its really souless, tunes by numbers gash...

ie the zombie nation tune and the organ doners one vs dj destiny one...

Altough i think its not without its faults the uk scene, i think we gotta start giving it more credit, as really imo it has done so well this year and the foreign stuff is just not performing...

no one was more hurt when listening to the likes of scot project "R&S", the new SHOKK one... and the likes of the organ doners one than me...

But i think in general, the whole thing need to be shaken up!!!

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:07 PM
also IMO, UK trance is better that stuff on SYS-X...

I mean 'Mindcontroller' what were you thinking???? :shock:

EmotionComplex
19-11-2003, 11:09 PM
also IMO, UK trance is better that stuff on SYS-X...

I mean 'Mindcontroller' what were you thinking???? :shock:

now come on skeeter he aint hurt'n no body

[south park] :roll:

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 11:12 PM
i liked mind controller :cry: anyway...

ok, i see what you're saying. the 'wishyness' ie swirliness of uk trance has got less and less recently and we've seen a toughening up of the sound. the recent alphamagic releases have got much much better than they were. but still that uk melody is there. and with jon - he still puts melody into his tracks. don't get me wrong i love this sound but there's no-one(or very few ppl) producing solid uk hardstyle at the mo. that was my point to SYS and i stick by it.

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:13 PM
also IMO, UK trance is better that stuff on SYS-X...

I mean 'Mindcontroller' what were you thinking???? :shock:

now come on skeeter he aint hurt'n no body

[south park] :roll:

yeah but in my opinion this is exactly the sort of stuff that I really hate...

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 11:14 PM
yeah but c this is not constructive. let's get on with the conversation.

Paul Nisbet
19-11-2003, 11:20 PM
If we go on to hardstyle, then german and italians cant be touched.... Just now... but even they at the mo ave managed to pigeon hole themselves with sounds and techniques that very few have managed to break out of???? ie Technoboy... Agree? Disagree.

With hardtrance, this year. The uk ave almost stepped them , step for step!

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:20 PM
why isnt this constructive?, voicing my opinion...

my cussing of mindcontroller was not dissimilar to your overall cuss of UK trance....

I recently have been buying a lot more hard stuff and getting into my harder sound...purchasing i.e Blutonium Boy - Hardstyle Instructor, DJ Slideout - Reflections and a few other bits...

I beggining to respect the well made hardstyle and giving more than a disgusted once over on germantrance, but tracks like the ones on this label are the ones that make me go back to my original view of hating any hardstyle...

I'm all up for good, slightly melodic hardstyle, thats well produced and respectful, but as Paul mentioned earlier there is too much gash out there and it's ruining it for all of us...

See my point, or am I still being the disruptive, uncaring cunt that corbzy is?

Paul Nisbet
19-11-2003, 11:24 PM
why isnt this constructive?, voicing my opinion...

my cussing of mindcontroller was not dissimilar to your overall cuss of UK trance....

I recently have been buying a lot more hard stuff and getting into my harder sound...purchasing i.e Blutonium Boy - Hardstyle Instructor, DJ Slideout - Reflections and a few other bits...

I beggining to respect the well made hardstyle and giving more than a disgusted once over on germantrance, but tracks like the ones on this label are the ones that make me go back to my original view of hating any hardstyle...

I'm all up for good, slightly melodic hardstyle, thats well produced and respectful, but as Paul mentioned earlier there is too much gash out there and it's ruining it for all of us...

See my point, or am I still being the disruptive, uncaring cunt that corbzy is?

mate that previous post was rank... i was gonna post myself but couldnt be arsed.... this one is much better...

altough i cant remember that last time u respected hardstyle, if u hate it, u cant respect it mate.

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:26 PM
why isnt this constructive?, voicing my opinion...

my cussing of mindcontroller was not dissimilar to your overall cuss of UK trance....

I recently have been buying a lot more hard stuff and getting into my harder sound...purchasing i.e Blutonium Boy - Hardstyle Instructor, DJ Slideout - Reflections and a few other bits...

I beggining to respect the well made hardstyle and giving more than a disgusted once over on germantrance, but tracks like the ones on this label are the ones that make me go back to my original view of hating any hardstyle...

I'm all up for good, slightly melodic hardstyle, thats well produced and respectful, but as Paul mentioned earlier there is too much gash out there and it's ruining it for all of us...

See my point, or am I still being the disruptive, uncaring cunt that corbzy is?

mate that previous post was rank... i was gonna post myself but couldnt be arsed.... this one is much better...

altough i cant remember that last time u respected hardstyle, if u hate it, u cant respect it mate.

I dont think you understand where I am coming from Paul....

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 11:29 PM
my cussing of mindcontroller was not dissimilar to your overall cuss of UK trance....

right... this is silly. i WASNT dissing UK trance - never had and never will. i described it as wishy washy cause i was trying to visually descibe a difference in the sound. wishy washy as in the 'sound' - not that UK trance is crap. i perhaps said the wishy washy thing wrong and i apologised - it's a simple mistake you can make on the internet. i love it, i play it and i respect it. and i think i've said that repeatedly if you read the whole thing back again, you'll see that.

anyway

grrr///....

i'll agree that recently the UK guys have shat all over the german hard trance guys. BUT nothing beats German hard trance for me. nothing. i love this sound. still the UK hard trance sound is not quite there. it really isn't.

anyway PLEASEEEEEE let's get back on track here... we're talking about UK hardstyle producers. why isn't there any of them? if you wanna talk about the rest of this, please start a new topic!

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:31 PM
I'll just **** off now then...

Paul Nisbet
19-11-2003, 11:34 PM
I am gonna personally gonna start making the most brutal ****in head **** hardstyle u ave ever heard....

Lmfao.

Yeah man... back on track. But we all brung up hard trance, lets not forget that?

Hardstyle is so under represented in the uk... that is also pissin me clean off.... as a lot of the uk hard trance producers have managed to make there sound so clean and hard, yet none of them stray to hardstyle???

Why is that!!!

Why does no one represent hardstyle in the uk?

Force 9 track personally is the only one that comes close?

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 11:37 PM
you know what i mean. they always put these wishy washy swirls and dreamy melodies in their production. actually i probably said that wrong. i don't mean wishy washy as in crap cause i love uk hard trance, but german trance is alot tougher and less melodic. that's what i was trying to say. whoops didn't come across very well on that one.

hey paul i've just read this back and i meant 'hardstyle is alot tougher and less melodic'. sorry man.. really difficult when you're trying to run a forum :)

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 11:37 PM
so come on please, let's get back on topic. where are the UK hardstlye producers?

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:43 PM
Log:One Hardstyle:
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=650004&q=Hi
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=529618&q=Hi

EmotionComplex
19-11-2003, 11:47 PM
log:One's production quality is bloody impressive :love:

dj vorny
19-11-2003, 11:48 PM
:doh: :neutral: :eh: :crackup:

DJ Corbzy
19-11-2003, 11:48 PM
log:One's production quality is bloody impressive :love:

yeah not ****ing bad for a gimp with a computer.... :lol:

EmotionComplex
19-11-2003, 11:50 PM
log:One's production quality is bloody impressive :love:

yeah not **** bad for a gimp with a computer.... :lol:

:lol: :lol:

MARKEG
19-11-2003, 11:57 PM
hey sorry guys to be a bit full on there (corbz especially) but this has provoked some really great discussion and i love it when we get stuck in like this. spot on. anyway let's create some more topics from this if we can.

ahhemmm... back to the subject matter...

uk hardstyle producers...

Tobe Cypher23
20-11-2003, 12:04 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, but i have to say two thinbgs to this.

A : maybe i am lazy if i say this, but i don't have the time to listen to all contributions, since i have some business to run :doh: and find myself loads of not so good tunes [have stepped into the listening trap on the net to many times to do it again]
B : If the tunes are placed on the net for who knows how long it is not really interesting for a company to release it anymore.
Oh gosh a revelation which will shock the people who believe this is a good way of getting a serious labelcontract, but the majority of labels think alike.Its like bying a new car which already everybody has driven, if you catch my drift [hope i don't offend anybody, which is not my goal, just a tip for people trying to get a deal]
C : Anybody really serious will take the effort of sending a democd with new uheared material, you know where to send it.


I agree with what you are say SYS. This post and your further explanations kinda shed a new light on the matter. Nice one.

I run a hardstyle night in Leeds. Would you email me your DJ/artist roster. cypher.rave@ntlworld.com

Cheers
Tobe

Paul Nisbet
20-11-2003, 12:09 AM
hey sorry guys to be a bit full on there (corbz especially) but this has provoked some really great discussion and i love it when we get stuck in like this. spot on. anyway let's create some more topics from this if we can.

ahhemmm... back to the subject matter...

uk hardstyle producers...

Really no one can come back on that one, cause there is no one really at the level to make a mark, other than force 9...

but plans are there.... arent they jay? jon? :lol:

Serious lack of support in the uk scene.... anyone who is in the posistion to make an impact... stick ur head out on the line... and go for the filthiest sound possible. ie BASS Drum... BY MOTOROSI...........


go for it!!!

Jay M
20-11-2003, 01:08 AM
next year is gonna be a good year for UK producers ;)
not saying too much at the moment but theres deffo gonna be a major UK presence felt in both the trance, hardtrance n hardstyle scenes

Spooney
20-11-2003, 01:10 AM
Corbzy pointed out that this year the uk hard trance producers have pissed all over the germans. I agree to a certain point and I think that the uk sound is defo changing for the better, but imo will never be better than the germans.....Anyway my point being if its taken this long for them to catch up on the hard trance scene then surely its gunna be a while before you do start seeing some uk hardstyle producers making tunes that will challenge the foriengers?!?

SYS
20-11-2003, 09:01 AM
also IMO, UK trance is better that stuff on SYS-X...

I mean 'Mindcontroller' what were you thinking???? :shock:


Uhm well this will prolly come as a shock to you, but i was actually thinking i was trying to create a good track [and sales have proven i was right]
This is not meant as a bigheaded post [explanation before somebody jumps to conclusions once again] , but as far as disrespectfull i believe this was a rude one, mainly because it was based on your personal opinion [which is fine because it is yours only the way you bring it is not really the way to go imo.

Also i am still searching for the stuff we do on Sys-X because that is our style, which we actually like and i don't really care what others think of it, but since a lot of you really seem to enjoy the german stuff i can let you know we are very succesfull in that country [funny thing is that the mindcontroller thing was our biggest one there]

I don't say that this proves anything, but maybe it only shows that there are other people out there who are more into this sound than the uk whishy washy [as mark put it] , because [i hope i won't get problems with this] for what i hear from my collegues out of the scene outside the UK, they really are not to keen on the UK sound in generall :oops:

This is not my personal opinion, because i believe that every country has good and bad music.
I am merely pointing out what could just be a different kind of taste.
All i know is that our label is doing extremely well, and i really have no intention of changing the sound into the taste of whatever forum i stumble into.



DOn't think i quite understand what you mean with

"Yeah mate, SYS aint all that mate."

???

No sorry mate, i read ur earlier posts without reading the last one u made...

i also got the impression u were being a tad cheeky... when posting originally...

It means, that i thought u were being overconfident with the labels status when coming on and wat i thought was taking the piss out of the uk scene and its producers.


No, this has never been my intention.
I was just trying to find out if i could find UK people here who actually make the stuff we release on our label, just BECAUSE i have learned so much from the time i performed hundreds of times in the UK and scotland when i was better known as Ruffneck.

What people here don't seem to realize is that i could not take the piss with the UK DJ's and producers, because i would insult many friends then [ if i want to take the mickey out of them, i do that in private]

Most recently i have played in the UK with one of my oldest friends M-zone and I also chat with him regurlaly by phone about your scene and others and how could i face him if he would read my posts here then.
He surely would not let me in his house anymore if i did so i hope you don't get me wrong.

the net is a place where people can be misunderstood very easy, especially if non UK people start to talk in english which is not there mother language [remember i am dutch]

To take you up for amother challenge, try to type a conversation as what i just did to me in dutch and see if you can express yourself the way you want it ;)

sean.demaine
20-11-2003, 09:25 AM
Goed ben ik deze paal met veel intrest gelezen en altough heb ik niet nog mijn eigen muziek, die ik voor bijna tien jaren vermengd heb, ik het heel vreemde vrijgegeven vind dat een etiket anderen uitdagen zou om met een gezond opkomen, dat geschikte is voor hen vrij te geven,

Zeker is produceren een afzetgebied voor je eigen ideeën en begrip en zetten uit een crtain geluid van de aanvang te creëren je eigen capaciteiten beperkt even vere als vrijheid van uitdrukking

Hoewel ik u zie richt voor de feit dat u een zeker geluid en wens te steken door dit vrijgeeft, maar voor mij creëert dit formular, welk in draai stale. worden kan.

DJ Corbzy
20-11-2003, 09:53 AM
Yeah sorry Mr SYS, I was just looking out for the UK producers [it is more to my taste than your style of music] my comments were harsh [I apologise]...you'll have to realise that I'm quite an arrogant person [ask the other members :lol: ]

It's just a forum, for debating and that, it won't go any further... ;)

Hakka.
20-11-2003, 10:06 AM
Come on guys we should of been a bit more respectful to SYS. How many other labels have come on here and asked for people to send in demo's!

It's hard for me to find the time to get on here, let a lone if was running several record labels in another country!

Were supposed to have a reputation on this forum for being friendly and sound... so let's not tarnish that reputation through jumping on someones words so quickly... were all better than that... arn't we?

;)

SYS
20-11-2003, 10:08 AM
Apologies accepted , no harm done :clap:

No probs, in this way we might actually begin to understand each others opinions and taste, while at the same time respect that which is clearly a completely other way of experiencing things as well as the music involved with it belonging to a certain group or person [wow - this one could actaully been have taken out of a science documentary, but hey thats the way my mind is working ]

And to the one called sean.demaine hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :clap: :clap: :clap: what a great attempt, but either way your dutch is kind of shabby or your online translator sucks bigtime !

Anyway, i had a good laugh trying to understand what the hell it is actaully you are trying to tell me and i surely respect the effort.well done :lol:

Hakka.
20-11-2003, 10:16 AM
Ik ben geen vreemde kat, ben ik een dokter die snooker met een hond speelt graag Openhartige riep.

That will scare you!

;)

DJ Corbzy
20-11-2003, 10:17 AM
Firstly....WELCOME TO BLACKOUT! :lol:


Anyway, i had a good laugh trying to understand what the hell it is actaully you are trying to tell me and i surely respect the effort.well done :lol:

Hahaha, :lol: :lol: ;)

Hakka.
20-11-2003, 10:20 AM
Mijn aap is wijs, als hij appel met Kerstmis eet terwijl dragen van zijn moeders favoriete jas. Becareful, als de wolf een vuurwapen heeft.

And this will make "no sense"...

hehe...

SYS
20-11-2003, 10:37 AM
Translation of his latest dutch attempt for those who don't understand any of this :

My monkey is wise, when he eats appels at christmas day while carrying his mothers favourite coat.
Be careful when the wolf has a gun.

100 % correct translation from a dutch geezer knowing some english. ;)

Conclusion : This bloke is either completely mad or full of joy - it's all good

DJ Corbzy
20-11-2003, 11:03 AM
Your conclusion is correct! :lol:

Hakka.
20-11-2003, 11:07 AM
which one would you say I was Corbz?

;)

DJ Corbzy
20-11-2003, 12:50 PM
Full of Joy!

sean.demaine
20-11-2003, 03:13 PM
yes my Dutch sucks ;) :lol:

Si the Sigh
20-11-2003, 03:18 PM
...at least your honest Sean! :clap: :lol: ;)

sean.demaine
20-11-2003, 03:31 PM
:lol:

Louk
25-11-2003, 12:53 PM
sorry but anyone doubting sys stuff all i have to say is

ACIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEDDDD!!!

by far one of the best hardstyle releases around in my opinion, though others disagree this is one i'd gladly play again and again.

Louk

rapture
25-11-2003, 01:42 PM
[quote="MARK EG"]i liked mind controller :cry: anyway...quote]

I liked Mindcontroller too. :oops:

Louk
25-11-2003, 01:46 PM
so did i as did many others - all you anti hardstyle lot can **** right off i'm afraid :)

Louk

Louk
25-11-2003, 01:46 PM
p.s variety is the key to life.

Louk

rapture
25-11-2003, 01:48 PM
:)

Tobe Cypher23
25-11-2003, 02:18 PM
so did i as did many others - all you anti hardstyle lot can **** right off i'm afraid :)

Louk

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