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Numeric
24-07-2007, 10:03 AM
two of my fave bands, me Dad exposed me to New Order from a very young age, we're talkin like four years old, their early releases are among the first tracks i can remember liking, 'Blue Monday' for example is a record i remember being in complete awe of as a young lad, and still remains one of my fave tracks of all time to this day, New Order's first few albums remain special to me and a lot of singles down the years also, such as 'True Faith' and 'Regret'...
being a New Order fan, i then took it upon myself to learn about Joy Division and to be honest i prefer their music, both the albums they released are classics...
acidguru
24-07-2007, 12:16 PM
Great band,talking about Joy Division,i had the pleasure seeing them live way back in 1980,unforgettable gig!!Check out their pre Joy Division stuff,were named `Warsaw`then,great stuff
force
24-07-2007, 01:28 PM
Great band,talking about Joy Division,i had the pleasure seeing them live way back in 1980,unforgettable gig!!Check out their pre Joy Division stuff,were named `Warsaw`then,great stuff
Indeed! Those Warsaw demo tapes are the bollox.
No Love Lost, springs to mind
Numeric
24-07-2007, 02:20 PM
the only pre 'Unknown Pleasures' stuff i've heard are the tracks on the 'Substance' album, one or two of the more punk sounding tracks on there...
SlavikSvensk
24-07-2007, 04:50 PM
i honestly think closer is the greatest rock album of all time. unknown pleasures has some great songs, but closer is so cohesive...
also movement, first new order album, is absolutely brilliant.
they went downhill after they stopped working with martin hannett, though low life and technique are brilliant too.
marginmaster
24-07-2007, 06:40 PM
both amazing bands
force
24-07-2007, 07:14 PM
i honestly think closer is the greatest rock album of all time. unknown pleasures has some great songs, but closer is so cohesive...
also movement, first new order album, is absolutely brilliant.
they went downhill after they stopped working with martin hannett, though low life and technique are brilliant too.
i was never overkeen on movement, i tried to like it.
Factus 8 though, with 'everythings gone green and mesh etc is still one of my favourite albums to this day. Oh, and 'Power, corruption and lies' has its moments as well
SlavikSvensk
24-07-2007, 11:35 PM
give movement another listen. it's sort of the bridge between joy division and new order having come into their own on PCL
Numeric
25-07-2007, 08:14 AM
'Closer' is my personal fave of the lot too, incredible album, i need to check out 'Movement', heard a few people say that it sounds more like a Joy Division album than New Order...
'Low Life' and 'Power, Corruption & Lies' are the New Order albums i grew up listening to, 'Love Vigilantes' is an awesome track, and 'Your Silent Face' is beautiful...
love will tare us apart classic peice of music
SlavikSvensk
25-07-2007, 05:27 PM
'Closer' is my personal fave of the lot too, incredible album, i need to check out 'Movement', heard a few people say that it sounds more like a Joy Division album than New Order...
'Low Life' and 'Power, Corruption & Lies' are the New Order albums i grew up listening to, 'Love Vigilantes' is an awesome track, and 'Your Silent Face' is beautiful...
movement is kind of like a midpoint between closer and power, corruption and lies, both literally and figuratively. it's produced by martin hannett, so it has a similar sound to joy division, but it's definately much more dancey and i'd say it's more "creepy/atmospheric" than "disturbed" like joy division stuff tends to be
Numeric
25-07-2007, 09:15 PM
sounds interesting...
i'll deffo check it out :)
force
25-07-2007, 09:18 PM
Looks quite an emotional film
http://www.neworderonline.com/News/News.aspx?NewsID=1314
eyeswithoutaface
25-07-2007, 10:13 PM
a very bizarre one for me, as i absolutely love Joy Division and at the same time New Order are probably my most loathed band ever. Really, really cannot stand New Order, "Respect" is a good track but everything else leaves me totally cold, "Blue Monday" is probably my most hate electronic track of all time, seriously worries me when dj's have to resort to bringing that one out in the middle of a set. "Closer" is stunning, in particular "isolation"
and check this out for making a mockery of a past legend, New Order are actually planning to play some gigs as Joy Division either this year or in the new year with the guy who played Ian Curtis in the film as errr Ian Curtis. ****ing joke that, like bloody pantomine or something. Shame, legacies such as that of Joy Division and Ian Curtis should be treated with alot, lot more respect, especially from the people who were involved first time around
SlavikSvensk
25-07-2007, 11:48 PM
i love early new order (and dislike later new order). but i saw them play 2 years ago and it was just sort of sad.
Numeric
26-07-2007, 08:29 AM
a very bizarre one for me, as i absolutely love Joy Division and at the same time New Order are probably my most loathed band ever. Really, really cannot stand New Order, "Respect" is a good track but everything else leaves me totally cold, "Blue Monday" is probably my most hate electronic track of all time, seriously worries me when dj's have to resort to bringing that one out in the middle of a set. "Closer" is stunning, in particular "isolation"
and check this out for making a mockery of a past legend, New Order are actually planning to play some gigs as Joy Division either this year or in the new year with the guy who played Ian Curtis in the film as errr Ian Curtis. ****ing joke that, like bloody pantomine or something. Shame, legacies such as that of Joy Division and Ian Curtis should be treated with alot, lot more respect, especially from the people who were involved first time around
can't believe you don't like 'Blue Monday', one of greatest tunes of all time!!
totaly agree with you about 'Closer', and New Order playin as Joy Division with this thesbian, i'm sure he does a good job in the film but FFS...
Numeric
30-07-2007, 12:55 PM
listened to 'Movement' on the way to work this mornin, some nice tracks on there...
on a few of the tracks, Sumner sings very similar to Curtis which doesn't sound right, would love to hear them tracks with him singin in his own style which is apparent on later New Order albums...
SlavikSvensk
30-07-2007, 06:08 PM
peter hook sings a couple of them too...dreams never end and one of the others.
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