TRANCE STUTTER

[EmotionComplex]

I want to create that stuttery kind of sound used in a lot of older trance, like the type you hear on choirs and pads etc so it takes on a rhythm in volume.

anyone one know any methods of doing it?

or even what im ranting on about :eh: :)

[log:one]

he means a volume chop or gate.

i cant remember how to do it in cubase cos the last time i did it was about 2 years ago on cubase v4 or something...

[Barely Human]

Yeah, **** knows about cubase! But there is quite a few ways of doing it in fruity.

[log:one]

a lot of help us fruits were then...

[acidhead]

u have a virus with audio inputs - you play your pads/strings/choir audio into the inputs of the virus and u do quick rhythmic 16th note hits on your sequencer to open and close the inputs on the virus and - viola

you could also try using midi control changes controlling volume but they are a pain in the arse to set up and the timing seems to go out a bit too much.

[MARKEG]

in cubase it's easy. you simply put the controller as main volume and use your pen tool on the correct quantise setting to gate the volume. it's not that hard mate and it produces such a WICKED sound. all the early trance used to do this. would be nice to try to bring it back eh?

[EmotionComplex]

in cubase it's easy. you simply put the controller as main volume and use your pen tool on the correct quantise setting to gate the volume. it's not that hard mate and it produces such a WICKED sound. all the early trance used to do this. would be nice to try to bring it back eh?

cool man, yeah i used to love this kind of effect, i am in the middle of making a track and thought this sort of sound would fit really well but realised i didnt have a clue how to do it :oops:

ill boot up cubase now and have a go :)

[Basil Rush]

Often a lot tighter if you use an audio part with a single note chopped up into the right rhythm and then pass that as a sidechain to a gate plugin / hardware device. MIDI timing is normally significantly looser than the audio timing which is usually pretty perfect. Sometimes the MIDI timing is awful.

[acidhead]

you can actually get the virus's own "da da daa" arp to open and close the inputs on another channel :) - if its synced to midi clock then it will be pretty spot on

you can route internal outputs to the inputs in the virus and do it that way = or u can just take a wire out the back and patch it :)

im not going to explain how u do it tho cos i would have to sit down and think about it and its too late ;)

[Moog]

is there not a website to download loads of gate templates, Im quite surprised a I cant find one..theres newtronics but I have no food never mind money for midi gate cd-roms, anyone?

[Dave Elyzium]

http://proaudiomusic.com/misc/twidlybits/gate_effects.htm

[Chazbloke]

you simply put the controller as main volume and use your pen tool on the correct quantise setting to gate the volume.

ya wha? damn i wish i knew what you meant.. can you explain it a little bit more? like what controller? pen tool? (as in thing you draw notes/midi part in with) and quatise setting?
:oops: cheers :?:

[EmotionComplex]

you simply put the controller as main volume and use your pen tool on the correct quantise setting to gate the volume.

ya wha? damn i wish i knew what you meant.. can you explain it a little bit more? like what controller? pen tool? (as in thing you draw notes/midi part in with) and quatise setting?
:oops: cheers :?:

are you using cubase?

in the sequence lane of a midi track there is a section below were differnt command properties can be altered, volume, velocity, expression etc.
You take the pen tool and select the master volume for track that you wish to gate then draw in the notes voumes on and off with the quantization setting so it snaps them to the notes.

[RichieV]

i think using cubase 's automation tool , even with a square wave , still sounds too legato.

i think the best approach is the break up the actual sample and trigger smaller notes for the staccato part. I'm am more than certain this is how the pros do it .

[Chazbloke]

you simply put the controller as main volume and use your pen tool on the correct quantise setting to gate the volume.

ya wha? damn i wish i knew what you meant.. can you explain it a little bit more? like what controller? pen tool? (as in thing you draw notes/midi part in with) and quatise setting?
:oops: cheers :?:

are you using cubase?

in the sequence lane of a midi track there is a section below were differnt command properties can be altered, volume, velocity, expression etc.
You take the pen tool and select the master volume for track that you wish to gate then draw in the notes voumes on and off with the quantization setting so it snaps them to the notes.

think i've got something like it, sounds kinda cool :)
cheers for the tip!
Chaz.

[Dave Elyzium]

i think using cubase 's automation tool , even with a square wave , still sounds too legato.

i think the best approach is the break up the actual sample and trigger smaller notes for the staccato part. I'm am more than certain this is how the pros do it .

actualy the majority of people I have spoken to program up a rhythm with an open hat / closed hat sequence, then use this to gate a pad sound or similar......the advantage of this is that you can have the pad sound continually evolving with LFO's and filters etc whilst being gated rather than the same sampole being retriggered rapidly...which IMO sounds crap

[mitzi]

you could just zoom in to 1/32th and stick in fine dots its well easy. as long as youve got basicaly no attack and release on the actual synth.
to top it of just chuck some reverb and delay to give it the live, rushy sound.
(this is inside the key editor/sequencer!)

[EmotionComplex]

you could just zoom in to 1/32th and stick in fine dots its well easy. as long as youve got basicaly no attack and release on the actual synth.
to top it of just chuck some reverb and delay to give it the live, rushy sound.
(this is inside the key editor/sequencer!)

yeah i did try that but it seemd to be too tight, a lot smoother the other way

[mitzi]

did you try using a large hall reverb with a short time on it plus a slight delay (low feedback) this usually makes it flow smoother depending on where u position your dots.