303 distortion?

[christian wagner]

Can anyone help here, particually producers....

I need advice on a good distortion pedal, or device, at the moment i run my freebass through a crap crap CRAP behringer pedal, which just makes it sound like a lorry going over a greenhouse. Or, i can distort it on the gain using my old behringer mixer, but it adds colouring to it which isnt my taste.

The Audiorealism Bassline is good, but the digital distortion sounds really rubbish, you can hear the aliasing in there like mad. I know theres millions of distortion plug-ins, but i reckon they all sound the same to a degree, the Ohmacide plug-in is wicked, but again, i think theres too much variation in the distortion and colouration.

I want distorted acid A-La Routemaster!

Ta

[acidchild]

I use an Ibanez SM7 distortion pedal. I like it.

[rhythmtech]

antares autotube or camel crusher

[dirty_bass]

You simply can`t beat Amplitube.

[Electrictribe]

i use a metalzone mt2 pedal sounds great.

[Kendall Station]

I have a great time with the Alesis Bitrman for odd dist and fx....but to be honest...a good old fashioned boss Heavy Metal pedal does the trick pretty nicely.

[christian wagner]

Thanks guys

I ssumed a heavy duty decent guitar pedal would be best. il see what i can find :)

[Kendall Station]

yeah the heavy metal pedal is pretty cheap and easy to get....there is a newer version called the metal man or some such thing that has better eqs and such....

both are basic boss guitar pedal, black with orange writing on it.

[christian wagner]

Cool, il have a look at thatone :)

GHas anyone tried the ohmacide plug-in yet??

[dirty_bass]

I think good valve overdrive is better than distortion.
Distortion kills the beautiful roundness of the 303

[rhythmtech]

exactly.. antares autotube or amplitude

[tocsin]

Cool, il have a look at thatone :)

GHas anyone tried the ohmacide plug-in yet??

I've played with it a bit. But, not on any synths. Just drums so far. It's definitely nice.

[davethedrummer]

the routemaster sound was a real 303 put through a boss distortion pedal
( the yellow one )


the suf sound was a 303 straight into a channel of a mackie 24/8/2 with the gain turned up full and the mids and highs up , then just keep the fader low
and you'll need a noise gate.
you can get almost the same sound from smaller mackie desks too
very smooth , especially with a bit of chorus on it too.
great for melodic lead lines

have you tried NI guitar rig?
thats pretty good for software distortion.

[christian wagner]

the suf sound was a 303 straight into a channel of a mackie 24/8/2 with the gain turned up full and the mids and highs up , then just keep the fader low
and you'll need a noise gate.


Yeah thats similar to what i did with the behringer desk, but obviously wasnt particually good haha

[dirty_bass]

exactly.. antares autotube or amplitude

I`ve never used the Autotube, how is it?
I love amplitube, but the thing is so damn process hungry.

[christian wagner]

I used atares once, think it was the one your on about, that was in my pc days haha, i remember it being good though.

[rhythmtech]

I`ve never used the Autotube, how is it?
I love amplitube, but the thing is so damn process hungry.

lovely and warm and very little cpu.. also has a lovely ton control on it

[tocsin]

have you tried NI guitar rig?
thats pretty good for software distortion.

That is, by far, my favorite "distortion" plug, even though it's more than that. I absolutely love what can be done with it. In one project, I morphed a standard 909 clap into sounding like a talking scream. Really amazing what sounds you can get out of it if you **** with it enough.

[mister badtouch]

My friend showed me how to bui;ld a pretty cool overdrivbe unit from an old cassette tape walkman. Just hardwire a jack input where the tape heads connect to the rest of the circuitry and control the drive with the volume on the walkman.

The whole thing only cost 25p, but unfortunately it also sounds like it cost only 25p!

[Microdot]

if you have an analogue desk, pump the gain up to maxi. on soundcraft desks this sounds wicked...

[warehouse_classic]

i had a freebass once

couldnt get it to work:(

[christian wagner]

i had a freebass once

couldnt get it to work:(

Gutted..

i had one off ebay that broke, got a new one from some german guy and it had hardly been used.

[nihilist]

amplitube is a great plug in for 303's make's the midrange very fat with out loosing the top end squeel.

i allso use an analong saturation plugin which gives a real gritty sound.

the distortion on the audiobassline needs to be seriuosly reworked

[paulcortex]

i find (on the hardware side) my tb303 sounds wicked through
the boss se70 multi effects...im sure Henry mentions it in his kit list.
on the software/vst side i use the internal distorsion on the audiorealism bassline, with careful use of eq/chorus/delay/reverb you can get a lovely sound :)

[christian wagner]

i find (on the hardware side) my tb303 sounds wicked through
the boss se70 multi effects...im sure Henry mentions it in his kit list.
on the software/vst side i use the internal distorsion on the audiorealism bassline, with careful use of eq/chorus/delay/reverb you can get a lovely sound :)

I want a proper 303...give me yours... :P

I find audiorealism's bassline to sound horrible when using the built in distortion, you can hear the digital aliasing toooo much i think, Tyhat said, when used withoug the distortion, it sounds wicked for squechy / liquis'y acid lines, but it needs some beef from some EQ, prefably hardware!

Paul - does youe freebass seem to "loose it" the cut off at about 3 '0' clock on the cut-of knob???

Andy

[MARK ANXIOUS]

guys.. i recently got this IK Multi hendrix plug and i have to say, it's INCREDIBLE (mind you ampeg is great 2)....

f**k amplitube

Please give it a shot and report back :)

[MARK ANXIOUS]

the routemaster sound was a real 303 put through a boss distortion pedal
( the yellow one )


the suf sound was a 303 straight into a channel of a mackie 24/8/2 with the gain turned up full and the mids and highs up , then just keep the fader low
and you'll need a noise gate.
you can get almost the same sound from smaller mackie desks too
very smooth , especially with a bit of chorus on it too.
great for melodic lead lines


inFECKINcredible advice.

also, another great thing is to put shitty batteries in ya TB :)

[A.P.]

antares autotube or camel crusher
I've found the antares plug inns pretty good for distortion too.
Nice one for sending them over Baz.

[Aratron]

the routemaster sound was a real 303 put through a boss distortion pedal
( the yellow one )


the suf sound was a 303 straight into a channel of a mackie 24/8/2 with the gain turned up full and the mids and highs up , then just keep the fader low
and you'll need a noise gate.


how was the Smitten sound made?

[Dave Elyzium]

whats a 303?

[A.P.]

whats a 303?

A little silver box that makes this acidic bubbling sound... haha!:lol:

[Dave Elyzium]

A little silver box that makes this acidic bubbling sound... haha!:lol:

that sounds like jolly good fun

[davethedrummer]

how was the Smitten sound made?


well now you're pushing it!
that's enough trade secrets for the time being

no not really
the smitten sound was same as the suf thing really
but it was more geezer on smitten than me or at least geezers studio
io even did one of my tracks in his studio for smitten.
so it was his 303 and they all sound different from each other.
some are thinner sounding some are phatter some have more resonance etc etc
so you get a really unique sound every time.

same with the 909s , the kick and snare especially, they vary a lot
and seeing as they are the most regularly used bits of the 909
you get a very recognizable sound in all your tracks very quickly.

which is partly why all that old acid techno does sound the way it does
we only had 909s and samplers not much else for drums ,so we concentrated on the synths for the tune and the odd drumloop to chug things along.
so each persons record had a real definite sound, according to the studio used.
as i'm sure you can hear for yourself.

but anyway one thing i have to say about the 303
the real thing still beats the crap oout of anything else
software , and hardware , only the roland TB 303 really has THAT sound.

all hail le petite prince !

[Si the Sigh]

*cough* make some new acid techno in an old skool stylee *cough*

[Aratron]

well now you're pushing it!
that's enough trade secrets for the time being

no not really
the smitten sound was same as the suf thing really
but it was more geezer on smitten than me or at least geezers studio
io even did one of my tracks in his studio for smitten.
so it was his 303 and they all sound different from each other.
some are thinner sounding some are phatter some have more resonance etc etc
so you get a really unique sound every time.

same with the 909s , the kick and snare especially, they vary a lot
and seeing as they are the most regularly used bits of the 909
you get a very recognizable sound in all your tracks very quickly.

which is partly why all that old acid techno does sound the way it does
we only had 909s and samplers not much else for drums ,so we concentrated on the synths for the tune and the odd drumloop to chug things along.
so each persons record had a real definite sound, according to the studio used.
as i'm sure you can hear for yourself.

but anyway one thing i have to say about the 303
the real thing still beats the crap oout of anything else
software , and hardware , only the roland TB 303 really has THAT sound.

all hail le petite prince !

i find it amazing that 303's sound different to each other. i mean you can tell that smittens were made on the same 303 because they all sound like they are going on holiday together.

[AcidTrash]

but anyway one thing i have to say about the 303
the real thing still beats the crap oout of anything else
software , and hardware , only the roland TB 303 really has THAT sound.

all hail le petite prince !


I must be doing something right then because people seem to think I own one.

[AcidTrash]

BTW, has anyone played with the Roland Varios? Its supposed to be the next best thing to a 303. I couldnt get it to squeal at all. Huge disappointment.

[dan the acid man]

I must be doing something right then because people seem to think I own one.

I can't say i've ever heard your tracks and thought that's a real 303 in there.

Most emulators sound great until you start tweaking the resonance.

[rhythmtech]

I can't say i've ever heard your tracks and thought that's a real 303 in there.



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[dan the acid man]

I didn't mean it to sound like that, but you know what i meant:hmmm:

[AcidTrash]

yes but A) you know for a fact I dont use one. B) you heard my shit before I was any good at it and C) your a poindexter geekoid.

The fact is that most punters can't tell the difference and I'm betting that in a blind test between the phoscyon and a tb303, even the geeks would not be able to tell. I think the difference is about as much between morrisons beans and heinz.

Sure the 303 sounds better live but then so does a vst. As soon as its recorded, the difference is largely meaningless, especially if you've added subtle chorus before distorting.

[AcidTrash]

That being said, nothing does stabs quite like a 303. And on the other hand I dont think the 303 is quite as rifftastic as the Audiorealism bassline.
AND, if you automate res and cutoff and env mod at the same time the squelch is entirely possible.

[rhythmtech]

tubebooster for anyone that wants it (freeware)

http://www.greenmachine.pwuq.net/TubeBooster_234.zip

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[AcidTrash]

Thats cooooool!!! Thanks!!!

Had a bit of play with acidvoice last night. I was clearly talking bollocks earlier.

[force]

Thats cooooool!!! Thanks!!!

Had a bit of play with acidvoice last night. I was clearly talking bollocks earlier.

When you say earlier, do you mean everything you've ever said before this moment now?

[Aratron]

When you say earlier, do you mean everything you've ever said before this moment now?

i can sense a friendship blossoming