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MrAcid
27-12-2003, 01:20 AM
my favorite label is hydraulix...

the best producer have the best label...that´s it... :clap:

what u think guys?? :eh:


cheers

dan the acid man
27-12-2003, 01:30 AM
hydraulix is a fantastic label and henry is a fantastic producer, still loving routemaster and stay up forever aswell, i still fondle the first D.A.V.E the drummer record i ever bought, it was world war 303, i picked it up in hmv of all places, i was a late comer to london techno but i've managed to build up a nice collection. london techno still manages to knock me off my feet and at the same time give me goose bumps to this day, im going to go and get drunk now. :dance:

tekku7181
27-12-2003, 02:40 AM
hydraulix is def a good label,,,i like some of their older releases a lot,,,

i like remains, counterbalance, compound, novamute, working vinyl, heroes, definition, infrastructure, seismic, gotham grooves, acardipane, and a lot more...

MrAcid
27-12-2003, 03:47 AM
i like a couple of other labels too , like powertools , SUF, RAW , routemaster...but u know...i really love all of hydraulix releases...
the top for me...



cheers :clap:

tekku7181
27-12-2003, 10:18 AM
cant forget punish,,,also new us labels i like r mafia and droid

Esox Lucius
27-12-2003, 10:42 AM
downwards, more recently - logistic

jonnyspeed
27-12-2003, 02:34 PM
The whole Truelove collective is just the bollocks. They keep free techno alive in the UK - which is a struggle after the criminal justice bill and recent economic climate in music.

:clap: And they are all really friendly from what I've seen - none of that "I'm famous so I gonna act like a tosser" shite.

DJAmok
27-12-2003, 02:44 PM
4x4

jonnyspeed
27-12-2003, 03:06 PM
subvert

Vin-iLL
27-12-2003, 03:11 PM
Tsunami, Warm-Up, Emergence, Sheep, Adverse, Rxxistance :dance:

miromiric.
27-12-2003, 03:39 PM
Tsunami, Warm-Up, Emergence, Sheep, Adverse, Rxxistance :dance:

the taste.

Col
27-12-2003, 04:42 PM
planet rythmn.

VOMATRON
27-12-2003, 07:27 PM
GIGOLO records! is the bomb maaaaaan

VOMATRON
27-12-2003, 07:27 PM
i wuz kidding ;)

tekku7181
27-12-2003, 07:48 PM
planet rythmn.

no doubt!! --

also audio and submissions,,,ok now i am done,,this could go one 4 a while :rambo:

jonnyspeed
27-12-2003, 08:19 PM
have a listen at bangingtunes.com - if you want a good flavour of british and a few european releases.

tioneb
27-12-2003, 10:59 PM
kanzleramt ... my fave label in 2002 and 2003

e-phoria
28-12-2003, 12:21 AM
here are some of my favorites:

Zync, MB Elektroniks, Kne'Deep, Ingoma, Advanced, Pornographic, Drumcode, Primate.... :twisted:

Sunil
28-12-2003, 12:42 AM
here are some of my favorites:

Zync, MB Elektroniks, Kne'Deep, Ingoma, Advanced, Pornographic, Drumcode, Primate.... :twisted:

Kne'deep, Advanced and Drumcode i'd definitely go along with... Zync have gone a little off the boil for me though, last good one imo was Adam Jay's EP.

00000000
28-12-2003, 01:41 AM
Adam Jay is rotten.

00000000
28-12-2003, 01:46 AM
Sorry. Verbal tick.

killarava2day
28-12-2003, 10:02 AM
Giant and Dwarf is quickly becoming my favourite lable.

Too much though to choose, all is good...I am even more so broke after this years vinyl buy up :shock:

Sunil
28-12-2003, 03:40 PM
Sorry. Verbal tick.

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Sunil
28-12-2003, 03:41 PM
Adam Jay is rotten.

First Primevil he did was brilliant, "Intimate Voyeur Machine" on Zync is another cracker as well.

eyes without a face
28-12-2003, 03:51 PM
Advanced, Planet Rythym, Submissions, Compound, Knee Deep

00000000
28-12-2003, 03:57 PM
Adam Jay is rotten. (http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic.php?topic_id=9126)

I don't know Adam or his music. I'm hoping that "Adam Jay is rotten!" will be adopted by his devotees as a chant, then by himself as a rousing yell during breaks in his set. Like "Primus suck."

jourdain
28-12-2003, 05:26 PM
Counterbalance, Downwards, Tsunami, Sheep

Inquisitor
28-12-2003, 07:38 PM
Blueprint, Coda, Downwards, Dynamic Tension... This year i'd probably go for Burkat's Still Music.

MARKEG
28-12-2003, 09:13 PM
God come on this is ridiculous! What an amazing year it's been for music.

If I was to say one:

Hmmm..

Submissions.

Purely because of the quality of the releases in such a small amount of time.

Dustin Zahn
29-12-2003, 12:09 AM
you know my favorite label is JERICHO! :lol:

I don't know...I don't really have an exact favorite label. Inside has always been one of my prefered choices for years. As for this year I'd have to say Sway. Not everything was top notch on the label but I always found something to fit into my sets on almost every release.

tioneb
29-12-2003, 08:45 AM
Adam Jay is rotten. (http://www.discogs.com/forums/topic.php?topic_id=9126)

I don't know Adam or his music. I'm hoping that "Adam Jay is rotten!" will be adopted by his devotees as a chant, then by himself as a rousing yell during breaks in his set. Like "Primus suck."

interesting chat about adam jay.. ive been told this rumor a lot before all this shit has been written. i also had the feeling that he changed on the psots he used to do BUT the people near him say he didnt change.

so, i guess that by some attitude, some people get a reputation, like me on this board for example. the "luck" i have is that i havent succeeded, but i guess that if i would do so i would get dissed the same as adam, without changing anything in my behaviour.

so all that i can say is that you have to meet the people to get real idea of what they are and stop talking like this hehhe.

killarava2day
29-12-2003, 10:36 AM
Why, what is the problem with Adam. Has he rubbed someone up the wrong way? Personally, I've never found much of his too entertaining

tioneb
29-12-2003, 10:57 AM
i dont dig his stuff either, but 000000 gave us link to a htread on discogs.com about him (see the link) .. i dont thnik it is really necessary to discuss aobut this once more and we should stay on the topic.

as i ve already give the good label for 2003 i can say that tresor was kinda disappointing this year (the "true spirit" compilations excluded). probably coz the club had too bad problems they were too busy to run the label as htey used to do.

Dustin Zahn
29-12-2003, 05:30 PM
Didn't the A&R at Tresor just get handed over to Mad Max or someone?

ampassasinbirmingham
29-12-2003, 08:02 PM
although it will prob change by tomorrow, mine is main out

zigojacko
30-12-2003, 02:27 AM
i like defected and nukleuz

Zymo
01-01-2004, 02:22 PM
4x4

i agree with that! very nice label!
overdrive, highball, knedeep, skulltunes, combat skill are also nice too ;)

Jimfish
06-01-2004, 12:51 PM
i thought max had been doing the A&R for some time now..

serox
06-01-2004, 01:08 PM
for the lighter stuff , heroes , pounding grooves , compound etc.

hard stuff, pcp , aca, cunt records, xbones, Third movement, respect the cock records.

fifoo
06-01-2004, 01:44 PM
sway theory submissions (2!) heroes (x1!) but anyway so many great trax on so many labels :wtf: working vynil!
keep that rhythm going YES! :Þ

dirty_bass
06-01-2004, 02:15 PM
Hard Lounge Records is my fave.
The Dark Side of the Spoon and Other Swing Classics by Sleazy P Martini.
What a Track.

marcopilf
06-01-2004, 04:46 PM
for what my pennies worth, my favs are primate, mb electronics, x series, apex, hydraulix, cluster and bxr italian imports

BloodStar
13-01-2004, 10:39 AM
Compound,,definitelly.my No.1.,. close on it's back is breathing PlanetRhythm,,followed,.by Submissions :twisted:

Bughead
13-01-2004, 12:10 PM
There's been too many labels this year, Submissions, Compound, Unknown Forces, Artillary, Combat Skills, Highball, Kne'deep all quality releases and quality acts.

2004 is hotting up to be a great year for techno in all its forms.

crime
13-01-2004, 04:48 PM
i thought max had been doing the A&R for some time now..

Marc Snow used to do the A+R, he left Tresor this year (Not to be confused with "Mark Snow")

Sunil
13-01-2004, 05:36 PM
i thought max had been doing the A&R for some time now..

Marc Snow used to do the A+R, he left Tresor this year (Not to be confused with "Mark Snow")

that's too bad, Marc was a huge asset to Tresor as well as being a great guy, seems he'd reached the end of what he felt he could do in there, shame :(

sentrax
13-01-2004, 09:04 PM
jackstar recordings!
four by four
knedeep
artillery
combat skills by mister Ocram ;)
emetic
highball

peace

audioinjection
13-01-2004, 10:48 PM
Kanzleramt
Audio Injection ;)
Pv records
Kompakt
Thule
Force-Inc.

Methodixxx
14-01-2004, 03:01 AM
There's way too many to mention, but I'll list a couple of my favs if I can remember them....


From the Swedish camp: Sway and Illegal did some nice things last year, also Embowel (although they've only had one release) :clap:

From the UK: Drumworks, Submissions, Compound (GM in da house) and our very own Blackout Audio all rocked the floors :dance:

Everywhere else: Invasion, Purples, Clau and CLR, Su:Real, Masters Of Disaster and Ascend all had some consistantly tasty releases :drool:



I'm stopping there before it gets out of control!

Getic
14-01-2004, 07:16 PM
Planet Rhythm, BlackOutAudio, Kne Deep, CLR...

paranoid666
14-01-2004, 09:12 PM
kanzleramt
counterbalance
imbalance computer music
modern love
warp
tsunami
emergence
ai records


will think of some more later

The Overfiend
14-01-2004, 10:40 PM
Subspace

dcdn
15-01-2004, 10:42 AM
hmm labels where i buy almost everything from are:

knedeep
enable
bitshift
artillery
4x4

TechnoNRGKid
25-08-2004, 11:05 AM
I got started kinda late on London Techno, But The person that really got me into it was D.D.R. , wich followed me to hear his label
Hazchem Wich is one of my Faves along with...

Stay Up Forever
Hydraulix
Smitten

Im still listening/learning bout all the other True love labels, but i love em All!

Other labels that were my faves before were...

Consumer Recreation
CLR

Getic
25-08-2004, 11:46 AM
Planet Rhythm, BlackOutAudio, Kne Deep, CLR...
, LK music, Giant and Dwarf...

Luke Logan.
26-08-2004, 12:55 AM
Lupp, Tresor, Knee'Deep, Ingoma, target, framework, Redseal

karlo
26-08-2004, 01:21 AM
Bound, Compound, Hydraulix, Audio Assault, Arms, G&D, Temper and many many more quality pounding labels!

Fake DJ
26-08-2004, 09:55 AM
I always look forward to the Hydraulix and the Maximum Minimum releases, proper quality imo

serox
26-08-2004, 11:27 AM
some of my fav labels


pcp
cunt
bloc46

TripleX
26-08-2004, 03:16 PM
planet rhythm uk
compound
emergence
pvc
audio assault
fine audio rec
punish
deafmosaic
m.d.
artillery
blackout audio
sw-007

xfive
26-08-2004, 05:16 PM
Hidden Agenda
Remains
Soleil
Synewave
:rambo: :rambo:

ampassasinbirmingham
27-08-2004, 07:50 AM
I think for pure quality of the back catalogue AXIS.

but this year it has to be between Counterbalance, Rxxistance, Tsunami

Bas Mooy
27-08-2004, 10:27 AM
have to say Kauntrax is my number 1 at the moment..it just won't leave my bag!

Buttman
27-08-2004, 10:31 AM
Why do people like Rxxistance so much? I can only think of one good record from them.

My favourite techno labels:
Blueprint
Downwards
Dynamic Tension/Counterbalance
Axis

MARKEG
27-08-2004, 11:19 AM
just a few that spring to mind:

all time:
transmat
metroplex

last 10 yrs:

axis,
drop bass
communique
downwards
sheep
international dj gigolos
djax
analog
djungle fever
reload
magnetic north
cheap
force inc
missile
tresor
planet rhythm
r+s

oh come on, i'll be here all day :)

ampassasinbirmingham
27-08-2004, 12:12 PM
Why do people like Rxxistance so much? I can only think of one good record from them.

My favourite techno labels:
Blueprint
Downwards
Dynamic Tension/Counterbalance
Axis

just quoting labels ive liked this year.

all the Above area ll time greats. Gots to give a mention for tresor also. I think counterbalance is the only label that i could honestly say i would play every release. Exept maybe DJ Pete :lol:

eyes without a face
27-08-2004, 12:26 PM
ahhhh..... Magnetic North.... now that was a label

Inquisitor
27-08-2004, 12:31 PM
Superb quality and most coherent over the last years would have to be Synewave and Blueprint for me. Not far away are Downwards, Dynamic Tension and Forte Records.

But this year i'd go for Rodz-Konez.

ampassasinbirmingham
27-08-2004, 12:43 PM
i think after the distribution shit 1881 has shown it will be back for a lot more. really quality label.

zaalmoetlos
27-08-2004, 02:38 PM
tresor, scorp, axis, downwards, blueprint, surface, inceptive, eruptive, kanzleramt

Adverse
27-08-2004, 03:31 PM
i used to like compound, native diffusion and skunkworks. alot.

not so much any more.

1881 is sick.

mek
27-08-2004, 05:36 PM
1. Hydraulix
2. Mankind
3. 4x4

gunjack
28-08-2004, 12:13 PM
i was surprised to see so many ppl listing rxxistance and only one person listing deafmosaic..... we have had some pretty good releases this year..... anyway i like PVC, Supagrupa, Nine, Reverse, Mainout, CBX, Infrastructure, Etc. :rambo:

The Overfiend
28-08-2004, 08:51 PM
U7
Subspace
Hybrid
Construct Rhythm
Jerk
Form
Meta (older stuff)
C-Side
Electracom
Deafmosaic (plug for Brian, leave that 20 bucks in the mail for me) ;)

Miromiric
28-08-2004, 09:36 PM
downwards, counterbalance, dynamic tension, rodz konez, blueprint. and few more i cant think of right now.

viagratek
29-08-2004, 04:47 AM
GO GUNNY!!! :lol:

elek7r
29-08-2004, 08:22 AM
beat disaster
hydraulix
international dj gigolo
phuture wax
tracid traxxx
djax up beat
proJex
BxR
CLau

conflict
29-08-2004, 01:18 PM
pv is a good label also like apex patterns hybrid compound hydraulix mankind to name but a few

waldhaus
29-08-2004, 04:24 PM
artillery

Alan Oldham
29-08-2004, 08:05 PM
I don't follow labels I follow artists

Ben Sims (esp. Ingoma), black and Latin crowds react to his stuff
Mark Broom (when he's tribal)
Oliver Ho
Surgeon in his La Real/Midnight Club Tracks phase
Misstress Barb (she just did a Thomas Krome remix that's hot)
Anything on Zenit/Naples guys
Markantonio (you can play a whole set of just him and destroy the room)
Advent/G-Flame
Mr. G
Mills of course (I thought Metropolis was his best yet)
Adam Beyer, depends on the track though
There was a bit on here where some of you were doggin' out Joey Beltram's new stuff, the disco cut-up sh**. You must not play to actual crowds then, because he blows up the spot, anything on STX, the one track off Tresor: Lumina, and that Player remix (the one that samples Rick James RIP) is a ****ing monster! The guy can take a 4-bar funk loop and make a 5 minute banger out of it, that's genius, people go crazy, so whatever
There was this one Gunjack record I played into the ground, played it for over a year, can't remember the name though

There's more but you get the idea

None of these guys ever let me down. Very rarely am I impressed w/ new producers if at all, sorry to say

Martin Dust
29-08-2004, 09:22 PM
Downwards
Varial
11th Hour
Electrofunk
Ghostly

and dare I say Dust Science :)

gunjack
29-08-2004, 11:22 PM
I don't follow labels I follow artists

Ben Sims (esp. Ingoma), black and Latin crowds react to his stuff
Mark Broom (when he's tribal)
Oliver Ho
Surgeon in his La Real/Midnight Club Tracks phase
Misstress Barb (she just did a Thomas Krome remix that's hot)
Anything on Zenit/Naples guys
Markantonio (you can play a whole set of just him and destroy the room)
Advent/G-Flame
Mr. G
Mills of course (I thought Metropolis was his best yet)
Adam Beyer, depends on the track though
There was a bit on here where some of you were doggin' out Joey Beltram's new stuff, the disco cut-up sh**. You must not play to actual crowds then, because he blows up the spot, anything on STX, the one track off Tresor: Lumina, and that Player remix (the one that samples Rick James RIP) is a **** monster! The guy can take a 4-bar funk loop and make a 5 minute banger out of it, that's genius, people go crazy, so whatever
There was this one Gunjack record I played into the ground, played it for over a year, can't remember the name though

There's more but you get the idea

None of these guys ever let me down. Very rarely am I impressed w/ new producers if at all, sorry to say


hey brah! been lookin for you. how the hell are ya? anyway hit me up please bro at briangibbs@hotmail.com


b

Sunil
30-08-2004, 02:49 AM
There was a bit on here where some of you were doggin' out Joey Beltram's new stuff, the disco cut-up sh**. You must not play to actual crowds then, because he blows up the spot, anything on STX, the one track off Tresor: Lumina, and that Player remix (the one that samples Rick James RIP) is a **** monster! The guy can take a 4-bar funk loop and make a 5 minute banger out of it, that's genius, people

It's nothing close to genius. That new Beltram on Tresor is absolutely terrible, it's so cheesy. He can sample the most overused disco/funk samples (Like most of his other STX stuff) and make a 5 minute track out of it? Well rather him than me, this doesn't remotely measure up to any of the amazing music he's made in the past. Sure it may make the girls shake their hips but there's not a hope in hell I'd ever play this kind of stuff out :nono: and if I did I'd expect to be lynched for it !

Btw. I'll always have huge respect for Beltram, he's made so much outstanding music, but I'm really not into this stuff.

Sunil
30-08-2004, 03:03 AM
Deafmosaic (plug for Brian, leave that 20 bucks in the mail for me) ;)

I'll agree here, the quality on the last one I heard (DM005) take it to the next level, the Gunjack tracks particularly.

Alan Oldham
30-08-2004, 04:54 AM
There was a bit on here where some of you were doggin' out Joey Beltram's new stuff, the disco cut-up sh**. You must not play to actual crowds then, because he blows up the spot, anything on STX, the one track off Tresor: Lumina, and that Player remix (the one that samples Rick James RIP) is a **** monster! The guy can take a 4-bar funk loop and make a 5 minute banger out of it, that's genius, people

It's nothing close to genius. That new Beltram on Tresor is absolutely terrible, it's so cheesy. He can sample the most overused disco/funk samples (Like most of his other STX stuff) and make a 5 minute track out of it? Well rather him than me, this doesn't remotely measure up to any of the amazing music he's made in the past. Sure it may make the girls shake their hips but there's not a hope in hell I'd ever play this kind of stuff out :nono: and if I did I'd expect to be lynched for it !

Btw. I'll always have huge respect for Beltram, he's made so much outstanding music, but I'm really not into this stuff.

Like I said, you must not play to actual party crowds with, like, girls dancing and stuff.

Sunil
30-08-2004, 03:23 PM
Like I said, you must not play to actual party crowds with, like, girls dancing and stuff.

Not so, I just don't like to play these kind of records.

massplanck
30-08-2004, 03:40 PM
Like I said, you must not play to actual party crowds with, like, girls dancing and stuff.

Not one for slaggin artists or tunes in general but you leave me no choice. That latest Betram tune is terrible.

Adverse
30-08-2004, 05:31 PM
yep. true enough.

dirty_bass
30-08-2004, 07:49 PM
Beltrams new stuff is just a techno version of Westlife.
Pop music for kids.

Alan Oldham
30-08-2004, 08:27 PM
You kids are just tooooooo cool for me ;)

Martin Dust
30-08-2004, 08:40 PM
Well I like the new 12", +6 every time...

Any way back to Labels and Artists...
Makaton
Looking forward to the new Female stuff
Whitehouse
Got back into Coil in a big way, Black Antlers is brilliant
Looking forward to the new Shake album as well

dirty_bass
31-08-2004, 12:28 AM
Favourite labels
Real tricky
I`m more into good tunes.

I do like mankind, it seems pretty consistant.
And
Intoxygene. For handling the young gods.
Gunjack is promising too.
Otherwise, I flick around labels like nobody`s business.

Buttman
31-08-2004, 10:56 AM
Makaton
Looking forward to the new Female stuff
Whitehouse
Got back into Coil in a big way, Black Antlers is brilliant
Looking forward to the new Shake album as well

Makaton is doing a remix for us right now :love:

I heard the new Female on Infrastructure, sounds good and industrial. Actually, quite just like BMB ;)
I am curious on the EP he is making for Downwards.

I want that Black Antlers but got no credit on my VISA to order it on their page, care to share? =)

What/who is Shake? Anthony Shakir?

Martin Dust
31-08-2004, 12:05 PM
Makaton
Looking forward to the new Female stuff
Whitehouse
Got back into Coil in a big way, Black Antlers is brilliant
Looking forward to the new Shake album as well

Makaton is doing a remix for us right now :love:

I heard the new Female on Infrastructure, sounds good and industrial. Actually, quite just like BMB ;)
I am curious on the EP he is making for Downwards.

I want that Black Antlers but got no credit on my VISA to order it on their page, care to share? =)

What/who is Shake? Anthony Shakir?

Makaton is really on form - enjoying most of his output these days. Not heard the Female stuff on Infra - enjoyed his set up in Leeds a couple of months ago tho...Looking forward to the EP.

Well the Coil album is worth it, sell everything you have.

There is only one Shake, and yeah you're spot on - really like his productions, the album with SPK was very good and interesting to see him working in another area.

scienceofuse
31-08-2004, 12:18 PM
I'm into lots of different labels, but some that I like best are:

(melodic / deep / intelligent etc.)
- Kanzleramt
- Scandium
- Rotation
- Sino
- Truesoul

(loopy, funky shite)
- Southsoul
- Zenit
- Question
- Memory Lane
- SuperBra

(tougher loopy techno)
- Drumcode
- Conform
- Punish
- Kobayashi
- Zync

Of course, there are so many great labels out there that they can't all be named here, but the ones written were chosen mainly for their consistency and/or my affection for the style they represent or an exceptional record they've put out...

Prosac
31-08-2004, 12:47 PM
No Entry
RAW
VCF
SUF

professor
31-08-2004, 02:01 PM
Blueline
anyone? surprised this is not mentioned.

tioneb
31-08-2004, 02:42 PM
i have seen soleil on the list

echoplex is very brilliant these times... some really personnal mastering and groovy rythms

massplanck
31-08-2004, 02:59 PM
Neue Heimat/Sativae/Mosquito/ but when on a harder tip it has to be Tsunami

The Overfiend
31-08-2004, 10:50 PM
There was a bit on here where some of you were doggin' out Joey Beltram's new stuff, the disco cut-up sh**. You must not play to actual crowds then, because he blows up the spot, anything on STX, the one track off Tresor: Lumina, and that Player remix (the one that samples Rick James RIP) is a **** monster! The guy can take a 4-bar funk loop and make a 5 minute banger out of it, that's genius, people

It's nothing close to genius. That new Beltram on Tresor is absolutely terrible, it's so cheesy. He can sample the most overused disco/funk samples (Like most of his other STX stuff) and make a 5 minute track out of it? Well rather him than me, this doesn't remotely measure up to any of the amazing music he's made in the past. Sure it may make the girls shake their hips but there's not a hope in hell I'd ever play this kind of stuff out :nono: and if I did I'd expect to be lynched for it !

Btw. I'll always have huge respect for Beltram, he's made so much outstanding music, but I'm really not into this stuff.

Like I said, you must not play to actual party crowds with, like, girls dancing and stuff.

Actually lot of people here just appreciate quality tracks. You going to tell me that Beltram track is better than the Samuel L Session on Cycle?
Just because someone doesnt like a track doesnt exactly mean they arent experienced with a crowd as much as you are. I don't think a lot of people here have as much experience with crowds as you do. Doesnt mean we are not entitled to say a track blows, from a producer point of view.

The Overfiend
31-08-2004, 10:51 PM
What/who is Shake? Anthony Shakir?

You're kidding right??

The Overfiend
31-08-2004, 10:58 PM
Ben Sims (esp. Ingoma), black and Latin crowds react to his stuff

I thought that didn't matter anymore music is music, like saying if I play Tupac the brothers will go crazy.


The guy can take a 4-bar funk loop and make a 5 minute banger out of it, that's genius, people go crazy, so whatever
say

Olav Basoski been doing that for years. To the point Beltram took a Basoski loop and looped it even more taking out 8 measures.

Alan Oldham
01-09-2004, 12:04 AM
There was a bit on here where some of you were doggin' out Joey Beltram's new stuff, the disco cut-up sh**. You must not play to actual crowds then, because he blows up the spot, anything on STX, the one track off Tresor: Lumina, and that Player remix (the one that samples Rick James RIP) is a **** monster! The guy can take a 4-bar funk loop and make a 5 minute banger out of it, that's genius, people

It's nothing close to genius. That new Beltram on Tresor is absolutely terrible, it's so cheesy. He can sample the most overused disco/funk samples (Like most of his other STX stuff) and make a 5 minute track out of it? Well rather him than me, this doesn't remotely measure up to any of the amazing music he's made in the past. Sure it may make the girls shake their hips but there's not a hope in hell I'd ever play this kind of stuff out :nono: and if I did I'd expect to be lynched for it !

Btw. I'll always have huge respect for Beltram, he's made so much outstanding music, but I'm really not into this stuff.

Like I said, you must not play to actual party crowds with, like, girls dancing and stuff.

Actually lot of people here just appreciate quality tracks. You going to tell me that Beltram track is better than the Samuel L Session on Cycle?
Just because someone doesnt like a track doesnt exactly mean they arent experienced with a crowd as much as you are. I don't think a lot of people here have as much experience with crowds as you do. Doesnt mean we are not entitled to say a track blows, from a producer point of view.

Very true, Sam, we are all entitled to our opinions. I'm just against wholesale bashing of anything and anyone. And where did the SLS comparison come from? I've heard some cheesy/bull**** tracks in my day, but the Beltram stuff's not among them, in my humble opinion. When I had Sims and Ho here in Chicago, they both had the Player 12" and banged the floor with it. These are 2 of the hottest DJs in the world. I guess they don't know music either, right?

When I was in Mexico and Puerto Rico recently, I had people coming up to ask what it was (Player). People don't stop and ask what sh** tracks are.

The yellow one on STX drives women insane. House/disco textures, techno aggression. When I played Vision here in Chi, you have to cross over a bit to the mainstream club crowd. All his new stuff straddles that line. That dark, dirty, evil warehouse sh** is over unless you're in Germany, or unless you like playing to sweaty muscle queens with their shirts off or moody trainspotters (also male) w/ their arms folded (I don't). You have to play to a wider audience these days. I go by experience, not message board opinions. You of course (and I stress this again) are entitled to your own. ;)

The Overfiend
01-09-2004, 02:53 AM
The Sls comparison came from when you rocked his track out in Pennsauken Nj and had all of us going ape shit. To me that has way more integrity than the stx material, and I'm not trying to play my mans out either. I understand your point about rockin a crowd no doubt. but I think Joey can put more into a track rather than using a disco loop that has been used by house producers already. To me it's almost like when puffy uses a track from the 80's that already has a sample from a hot ass 70's soul hit. He could have done a bit more research into disco and taken a perhaps hotter loop that wasnt already used on olav basoski's samplitude. I totally understand your comparisons to Pr and all, I'm boriqua dog. So I feel you on the shakin ass bit. But I'm just saying in the realm of b-boy, I think he can rock harder or better man. Without using something that's been rocked.

dirty_bass
01-09-2004, 03:34 AM
If we`re gonna talk crowd pleasing here. then lets just break out the britney spears and aguilera records. Cos they get more people moving than techno any day.
But they are commercial.
And not saying or pushing anything forward, as techno is supposed to be.

The Overfiend
01-09-2004, 08:22 PM
pushing anything forward, as techno is supposed to be.

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Martin Dust
01-09-2004, 09:58 PM
The Sls comparison came from when you rocked his track out in Pennsauken Nj and had all of us going ape shit. To me that has way more integrity than the stx material, and I'm not trying to play my mans out either. I understand your point about rockin a crowd no doubt. but I think Joey can put more into a track rather than using a disco loop that has been used by house producers already. To me it's almost like when puffy uses a track from the 80's that already has a sample from a hot ass 70's soul hit. He could have done a bit more research into disco and taken a perhaps hotter loop that wasnt already used on olav basoski's samplitude. I totally understand your comparisons to Pr and all, I'm boriqua dog. So I feel you on the shakin ass bit. But I'm just saying in the realm of b-boy, I think he can rock harder or better man. Without using something that's been rocked.

I can see what you are saying but take Green Velvet for example - simple stuff, lots of old samples - works like a dream and while you may say it doesn't take much, you could also say well "you didn't". If it works it works and 99.9% of the crowd probably don't give a crap and never will - it's a party not a trainspotters line up of who's too cool for school.

Sometimes I just dig to cheek of it all...take it easy...

Martin

The Overfiend
01-09-2004, 10:54 PM
Green Velvet's been sampling disco to make techno since.... well he was one of the first actually, so there's redeeming value. Even the Cajual days he was on some next shit.

Martin Dust
02-09-2004, 09:22 AM
There you go, it's purely subjective. Velvet wasn't the first to sample disco, check your history, someone also said that Mills and Cox where pioneers on 3 decks, also very wrong...

dreadnought
02-09-2004, 10:38 AM
Who were the first to use 3 decks then? Mills and Cox were certainly 2 of the first - I also remember some bloke called GE Real who used to use 4 back in about 1992. I'd like to hear a definitive answer if you know of someone else though.

tioneb
02-09-2004, 11:09 AM
Who were the first to use 3 decks then? Mills and Cox were certainly 2 of the first - I also remember some bloke called GE Real who used to use 4 back in about 1992. I'd like to hear a definitive answer if you know of someone else though.

actually some hip hop performers uses multiple decks way back in the 80s ... of course it didnt have to do with layering/beatmacthing all these records at the same time.

so, actually, i thnik its pretty hard to say "whos the first" .. its like asking "whats the first techno track" ??? as people dont even agree on what is techno, i just think we wont find a unique reply to this type of question.

Martin Dust
02-09-2004, 11:11 AM
Many have claimed it but the front runner has to be Nicky Siano...

dreadnought
02-09-2004, 11:54 AM
I meant actually using 3 decks to play 3 'tunes' I guess. Siano I thought just used sound FX and stuff like that. Things changed a great deal between what he was doing and what Carl Cox was doing at the start of the Nineties. I know there have been plenty of people who had the capabilities, I'm sure Larry Levan would have had 3 decks at least in that monster 75ft box that he had, but none of them were actually 'renowned' for using 3 decks, more their style of mixing or the sort of records they used to play back then. I reckon Tioneb is right - some of the hip hop innovators in the eighties were probably on it then.

Martin Dust
02-09-2004, 12:31 PM
He did use 3 decks...I give up...

Sunil
02-09-2004, 01:04 PM
someone also said that Mills and Cox where pioneers on 3 decks, also very wrong...

I said they were the first people in techno to bring it full circle if that's what you are referring to?

scienceofuse
02-09-2004, 01:16 PM
Forgot to mention the quality label Adrenogroov - consistent releases and a very musical direction... Lovin' it, a shame we don't get any of their releases down herre... And all the Net stores are "out of stock"... :roll:

A few other labels I forgot to mention : Kurbel (some gr8 stuff on there, like Richard Bartz's Acid Scout project and some of Savas Pascalidis' stronger material), Goodlife (good releases, a few hiccups but also many classics) and Dancefloor killers ( just for the Tonio/Carretta killer "My telephone is dead )... :twisted:

The Overfiend
02-09-2004, 01:50 PM
There you go, it's purely subjective. Velvet wasn't the first to sample disco, check your history, someone also said that Mills and Cox where pioneers on 3 decks, also very wrong...


Green Velvet's been sampling disco to make techno since.... well he was one of the first actually, so there's redeeming value. Even the Cajual days he was on some next shit.

Stop trying to argue with me and let's get back on topic. Labels.

ncw
02-09-2004, 02:07 PM
Disko B, Blueprint, Surface, Plus 8, Arc(ane), Light and Dark, M Plant, Eevo Lute Muzique, Counterbalance, Torema, Mego lots of others too.

Sunil
02-09-2004, 02:29 PM
Eevo Lute Muzique, .

Peter Benisch did a lovely one on this before.

Martin Dust
02-09-2004, 04:10 PM
There you go, it's purely subjective. Velvet wasn't the first to sample disco, check your history, someone also said that Mills and Cox where pioneers on 3 decks, also very wrong...


Green Velvet's been sampling disco to make techno since.... well he was one of the first actually, so there's redeeming value. Even the Cajual days he was on some next shit.

Stop trying to argue with me and let's get back on topic. Labels.

???? But you are wrong fella - no need to argue at all [/fact mode off]

tioneb
02-09-2004, 04:42 PM
Forgot to mention the quality label Adrenogroov - consistent releases and a very musical direction... Lovin' it, a shame we don't get any of their releases down herre... And all the Net stores are "out of stock"... :roll:

Adrenogroov has its 3 next release pressing as white labels last week a feter some months of silence. If salvatore gets his hand out of his ass i might meet him on saturday so i can give u more info. ;)

aggressor
02-09-2004, 07:12 PM
have just spotted this thread and can't be arsed to go through 9 pages of posts so dont know where this thread is heading but my answer to the original subject is :

I can't single out one label , but over the years , at different times, certain labels have got me excited for different reasons.

in the mid 90's I loved Re-Load , lots of great records in various styles from lots of different producers

Probably the most consistant label though for me has been UR. Not every release has been great by any means but through many years the quality has remained high imo.

I am now somewhat removed from the scene so am not in a position to name any labels of the last few years that have rocked it for me. But I have enjoyed Planet Rhythm, Template, Submissions, Punish, and many others

Just my opinion :neutral:

The Overfiend
03-09-2004, 01:05 AM
Like I said, you must not play to actual party crowds with, like, girls dancing and stuff.

You don't know who or who isn't on this forum, lot of the "kids" on this forum, run labels, are producers, and dj's, with more noteriety than you think.

MARKEG
03-09-2004, 01:44 AM
i love adrenagrovvvvvve! reeal quality... i get sent most if their stuff for review (lucky me hehehe) and love most of them.... absolutely brilliant

Alan Oldham
03-09-2004, 04:42 AM
Like I said, you must not play to actual party crowds with, like, girls dancing and stuff.

You don't know who or who isn't on this forum, lot of the "kids" on this forum, run labels, are producers, and dj's, with more noteriety than you think.

Hey Sam, you just can't let this go, can you. :roll:

The Overfiend
03-09-2004, 12:12 PM
Just doing my job Moderating, Making sure people respect each other. [/b]

Martin Dust
03-09-2004, 03:22 PM
Don't think Alan has shown anyone any dis-respect myself Sam. If anything I'd say you've been a little rude to him.

The Overfiend
03-09-2004, 06:19 PM
I don't see how I have been rude to him. I respect his time in the game.
Track Machine was one of my all time favs. I would love for Alan to share his thoughts here, I would just rely on him to be understanding to someone not agreeing with him as well, regardless of experience.

MARKEG
03-09-2004, 06:21 PM
nah sam's just doing his job in my eyes. that's why we're all here - to share the knowledge no matter who we are ;)

ok cum on, let's get back on topic before britney joins the board.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

maily
03-09-2004, 06:36 PM
my fav label at the mo is probably 4x4,
overall fav is downwards, so many killers
but it depends on how i feel, what i'm playing blah blah...

Mindful
04-09-2004, 12:01 AM
Drumcode,CLR,Zennit,Knee deep,Northwest dynamics,Bound,Tresor,Compound,Planet rythm,Blackout audio,Stigmata,korb,Construct rythm,Punish,Submission,Counter balence,SHIT man theres no way i could ever pick a fave :doh:

Ritzi Lee
04-09-2004, 08:06 AM
Let's give it a shot.

Underground Resistance
Axis
Synewave NewYork
Downwards
Bleuprint
Surface
Kanzlerambt
Uturn
Tresor
Underground Liberation :cool:
Pro-jex
Ground
Potential
Peacefrog
Planet Rhythm
Drumcode
Asymetric
Pure Plastic
Missile
Form
4 x 4
Black Nation
Bush
RedSeal

etc. etc.

scienceofuse
04-09-2004, 12:53 PM
Adrenogroov has its 3 next release pressing as white labels last week a feter some months of silence. If salvatore gets his hand out of his ass i might meet him on saturday so i can give u more info. ;)

Thanks, PM me... :clap:

Sunil
04-09-2004, 01:34 PM
Adrenogroov has its 3 next release pressing as white labels last week a feter some months of silence. If salvatore gets his hand out of his ass i might meet him on saturday so i can give u more info. ;)

D1's Rob Rowland is meant to have one dropping soon with a Diego remix, perhaps this is amongst the 3 new releases?

Esox Lucius
04-09-2004, 02:09 PM
downwards & pure plastic

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