the 303acid test - especially for aratron

[rhythmtech]

right. 3 samples of the same bassline. which one is the real 303?

the same desk settings are used on each file. the distortion is from driving the output of the URS channel strip.

A
www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303a.mp3 (http://www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303a.mp3)

B
www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303b.mp3 (http://www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303b.mp3)

C
www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303c.mp3 (http://www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303c.mp3)

:biggrin:

[magneze]

Heh, good idea. I'm going to vote for C.

Now am I any old asshole or a connisseur? :confused::biggrin:

[acidguru]

Are other members guesses allowed here too,Baz?

[Aratron]

right. 3 samples of the same bassline. which one is the real 303?

the same desk settings are used on each file. the distortion is from driving the output of the URS channel strip.

A
www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303a.mp3 (http://www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303a.mp3)

B
www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303b.mp3 (http://www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303b.mp3)

C
www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303c.mp3 (http://www.chrome-metronome.net/rhythmtechnologies/303c.mp3)

:biggrin:


oh god. :lol:
i'm at my moms now. i'll have a listen later in my headphones at home.
how will i know you won't lie if i get it right, to make me look wrong?

[Aratron]

Are other members guesses allowed here too,Baz?

you can be the independent judge. pm Baz find out the answer. i'll guess and you can verify the answer.

[acidguru]

Just noticed there´s already one,it´s B i guess,and it can´t be A deffo..

[rhythmtech]

im not doing this to prove you wrong calv.. just a little test for everyone. so ill be truthful with the answer.

listening blind im finding it hard myself only i know 1 certain thing to look out for.

[rhythmtech]

Just noticed there´s already one,it´s B i guess,and it can´t be A deffo..

y do you think its B and why can it definitly not be A? just wondering your thinking on it.

[Athar]

i agreed with acidguru and my vote is for B
very close for real tb 303 is C i suppose,
A sample its a bit .... muted, doesnt sound like real 303 in my opinion

[Aratron]

im not doing this to prove you wrong calv.. just a little test for everyone. so ill be truthful with the answer.

listening blind im finding it hard myself only i know 1 certain thing to look out for.

hmm pretty hard innit.
however having listened to my mate Paper's two real 303's . .

Got to be A.

[Athar]

hope you will not finish this competition so quick,
really intrestin other users opinion

[rhythmtech]

ill leave it a day or two.

[acidguru]

y do you think its B and why can it definitly not be A? just wondering your thinking on it.

B sounds like early Acid Junkies and early Hardfloor speaking of the 303 sound,both used the TB303,A sounds more like a clone,i´m missing the ´bite ´so to say..

[Athar]

i agreed with acidguru and my vote is for B
very close for real tb 303 is C i suppose,
A sample its a bit .... muted, doesnt sound like real 303 in my opinion

I just listened to the samples a few times again,
I change my mind, voted for C

[Aratron]

I just listened to the samples a few times again,
I change my mind, voted for C

hmm strange you should say that, cos i'm begining to think it's C aswell.

[People_Mover]

The A sample seems forced and the C sample seems to pure to be true. I'm going for the compromise - I reckon it's the B sample.

[pat_mcgerkin]

Fvcked if I know, it all sounds like acid to me.

[acidguru]

Check http://www.acidvoice.com/ for soundclips of the real TB303 and 303 clones..

[rhythmtech]

hmm strange you should say that, cos i'm begining to think it's C aswell.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

well the answer was C as aratron was told before he posted!!!

so lrt the ripping commence


To any old asshole they can't tell the difference, to a connisseur, a world of difference.


which one are you aratron? :lol:

[Aratron]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

well the answer was C as aratron was told before he posted!!!

so lrt the ripping commence



which one are you aratron? :lol:

i knew it was C all along. i was trying to ingratiate myself with the modern acid techno community who have now sadly abandoned using a real 303 (because they're too lazy/incompetent to use one!), for modern PC programs like Fruity Loops Version 3 etc.

Ok guys, dig your own hole!!!

[magneze]

... and I was getting worried about speeding in with my choice! :lol:

[rhythmtech]

i knew it was C all along. i was trying to ingratiate myself with the modern acid techno community who have now sadly abandoned using a real 303 (because they're too lazy/incompetent to use one!), for modern PC programs like Fruity Loops Version 3 etc.



actually mr. know-it-all. the vst 303's that everyone use are programmed in exactly the same way as a tb303 :lol: :lol:

[Athar]

actually mr. know-it-all. the vst 303's that everyone use are programmed in exactly the same way as a tb303 :lol: :lol:

well said, exactly baz

my good friend here said to me last time: hardware its nothing more than protraction of your penis nowdays :lol:

[rhythmtech]

well said, exactly baz

my good friend here said to me last time: hardware its nothing more than protraction of your penis nowdays :lol:

and a bloody expensive one at that.

to a trained ear there are slight differances between a good vsti 303 and a tb303 - but as this thread proves the differances arent noticeable to the average listener.

[Aratron]

and a bloody expensive one at that.

to a trained ear there are slight differances between a good vsti 303 and a tb303 - but as this thread proves the differances arent noticeable to the average listener.

just winding you up.

i did get it wrong
hell A sounded good to me

[People_Mover]

'A' sounded a bit flat to me, but the way my ears have been abused over the years, I'm lucky to be hearing anything at all! In any case, all this experiment proves is that I know sod all about production, and am virtually tone deaf. Nice acid line, though.

[xes]

I was going with C,but only because there was a slight hiss behind it. It sounded like it had been plugged in,not was a plug in.

here's a little video comparing the tb303 with the retro revolution
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SkALw4qZbRE&feature=related

did you guess right?

[magneze]

C just had a bit more "swing" for me, that why I went for it. if that makes sense ... :confused:

[acidchild]

It's more fair to not use distortion. Adding distortion only masks the 303's unique sound. Pretty much anything can sound like a 303 when it's overdriven.

Now let's see who can pick out the real 303 when it counts, in a track!

=o]


In The Hour Of Darkness (http://acid.experimedia.net/ComputerControlled-In%20TheHourOfDarkness.mp3)

[rhythmtech]

It's more fair to not use distortion. Adding distortion only masks the 303's unique sound. Pretty much anything can sound like a 303 when it's overdriven.



eh? thats totally fair. the whole idea was to prove that emulations can sound exactly like a TB when used in certain ways.

this isnt an "i can tell a real 303" contest. **** me, theres plenty of us that know what one sounds like, its not exactly medal worthy. it was just a comparative experiment.

[acidchild]

Of course they can, that's why they're emulators. But when you're using distortion, you're masking all the machines' true sound. I can probably get my Casio CZ-101 to sound like a 303 running it through distortion. A bit of clever sequencing is all it takes. Your comparative experiment loses value when not using a dry signal. Just my views.

[rhythmtech]

Of course they can, that's why they're emulators.

and that was the whole point of the experiment. to show how, and in what circumstances an emulator can sound exactly like a 303. not to disprove it. :lol:

[d3v]

Just had a quick listen - damn b and c are close. Don't have the real deal myself but picked up a x0xb0x, pretty good.

There is some good 303 comparison stuff at the site below, including distortions - hardware emulators only tho:

http://www.acidvoice.com/

[josephjobling]

gutted i mised the chance to guess - i was going to say c (the backgroubd hiss gave it away) - a phoscyon b abl - was i right

[josephjobling]

p.s. while i'm on does anybody fancy putting a vid on youtube showing how to program the internal sequencer on the abl or phoscyon for me (sorry i'm pants just can't get the hang of it - could do with a lesson)

[Metadog]

i went for c like xes cos there was more hiss behind it so sounded like it could more likely be outboard gear

lol