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was having this debate with some last night at the grove, when wragg and xcess were doing their thang ! personally i dont mind hearing a bit, but the type of scratches that can be pulled of live to such fast music is somewhat limted, and its get a bit anoying ! what does eveyone else think ?
midge
31-01-2004, 09:31 PM
I think in can work in a hard trance dj set but if only if done efficiently !! some dj's cant scratch and make an arse some do it beautifully.
DJ Corbzy
31-01-2004, 09:38 PM
I couldn't handle the scratching in X-Cess & Wragg's set to be honest, fair play to em, but I went and watched Hashimi in the other room... :clap:
love scratching at times i love it when eddie halliwell and petrae foy do it
Louk
Paul Nisbet
01-02-2004, 11:24 AM
its got its place, but not in hard dance imo!!!
When done right, and in reserved quantities its class, but to hear a dj scratch over it for no real reason... pisses me off when djs go scratch and fx happy these days!
MARKEG
03-02-2004, 12:24 AM
NO!!!!!!!!!!
Please god it's AWFUL!!!!!
NO NO NO
it's just plain wrong
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MARKEG
03-02-2004, 12:25 AM
that'll be a 'no' from me then LOL :lol:
Si the Sigh
03-02-2004, 07:47 AM
I think YES...In moderation. Theres nothing wrong with trying to do something different. It can sound awesome in places. I can see it being over done in a set though. I enjoyed DJ Wragg & DJ Xcess's set at The Grove. It said on the flyer "a scratch battle" so you knew what you were going to get, something a bit different. And anyway, "what is a DJ if he can't scratch?" as the old track says... ;) :lol:
DJ Corbzy
03-02-2004, 12:02 PM
"What is a DJ if he can't scratch"
....Lucky :lol:
lukekendall
03-02-2004, 12:07 PM
scatching can sound good,
it suits different styles more than hard trance/ hardstyle i would say
it does bring a grin to my face when i here it!! :lol:
i think it is quite a skill!!! i can not do it for shit :eh:
you'll change your negative ways one day mr corbz...
Louk
DJ Corbzy
03-02-2004, 12:09 PM
you'll change your negative ways one day mr corbz...
Louk
Yeah well tell that to Mark on this topic...
Scratching and Hard Trance, No Thanks...
Si the Sigh
03-02-2004, 12:40 PM
Mark probably only said no because he cant scratch! :lol:
EmotionComplex
03-02-2004, 12:45 PM
Mark probably only said no because he cant scratch! :lol:
i find your signiture image very sexual mr powers, she is toight...yesss toight like a tiggerrr
if we could scratch like those hiphop-dj's, it would work, but not for most of the techno dj's :)
those hiphop djs are amazing, they've skillz we even dont dream of :D
organ donor
03-02-2004, 01:21 PM
Hey you lot, you need to chill out a bit with the slagging dj's off. there is alot more to djin than just playing records you know, fair enough the scratching was pretty poor on fri but that was due to a shit mixer and equiptment set up. we were asked to perform a scratch battle and thats what we did to the best of our abbility under terrible conditions. sorry if we upset anyone but i have to mention that we regulary get booked off the back of our scratching and there usually isnt any complaints.i personally like to see dj's trying something a bit different but i understand that done wrong it can sound BAD!!! so please blame the sound engineer/club and not us...........
Jay M
03-02-2004, 01:30 PM
dont think anyone was actualy slagging djs off ,they were just saying if they like scratching or not in a hard trance set.
.:SANDERS:.
03-02-2004, 01:31 PM
Hey you lot, you need to chill out a bit with the slagging dj's off. there is alot more to djin than just playing records you know, fair enough the scratching was pretty poor on fri but that was due to a shit mixer and equiptment set up. we were asked to perform a scratch battle and thats what we did to the best of our abbility under terrible conditions. sorry if we upset anyone but i have to mention that we regulary get booked off the back of our scratching and there usually isnt any complaints.i personally like to see dj's trying something a bit different but i understand that done wrong it can sound BAD!!! so please blame the sound engineer/club and not us...........
Last time I saw you guys was @ Religion last year, the set was bang on and the scratching was done properly and in moderation.
All good.
de melza
03-02-2004, 02:31 PM
Hey you lot, you need to chill out a bit with the slagging dj's off. there is alot more to djin than just playing records you know, fair enough the scratching was pretty poor on fri but that was due to a shit mixer and equiptment set up. we were asked to perform a scratch battle and thats what we did to the best of our abbility under terrible conditions. sorry if we upset anyone but i have to mention that we regulary get booked off the back of our scratching and there usually isnt any complaints.i personally like to see dj's trying something a bit different but i understand that done wrong it can sound BAD!!! so please blame the sound engineer/club and not us...........
:clap: :clap: :clap:
cascade
03-02-2004, 02:45 PM
if we could scratch like those hiphop-dj's, it would work, but not for most of the techno dj's :)
and what if ya can scratch like a hip hop dj ?
does it have its place there?
:?:
Jay M
03-02-2004, 02:52 PM
i actualy enjoy hearing scratching in setrs when its done properly, i hate it when a dj does it on everty track and over speeches and that though
Si the Sigh
03-02-2004, 02:53 PM
Hey you lot, you need to chill out a bit with the slagging dj's off. there is alot more to djin than just playing records you know, fair enough the scratching was pretty poor on fri but that was due to a shit mixer and equiptment set up. we were asked to perform a scratch battle and thats what we did to the best of our abbility under terrible conditions. sorry if we upset anyone but i have to mention that we regulary get booked off the back of our scratching and there usually isnt any complaints.i personally like to see dj's trying something a bit different but i understand that done wrong it can sound BAD!!! so please blame the sound engineer/club and not us...........
I can back that up! The sound engineer couldn't even set the mic up on his own mixer. Not good... :neutral:
sean.demaine
03-02-2004, 09:05 PM
I like to hear a bit of "good" scratching , it does tend to suit hardstyle slightly more than trance I reckon (out of the 2) :lol:
Andy__C
04-02-2004, 12:43 PM
As with a lotta things in dj-in.......if done properly then yes.........I think it sounds awesome, can if done in the right way......can match most genre's.......... u see a dj properly ripping it up over hardtrance and it can send the crowd nuts......an awesome tool in a djs box.....
Problem is though that it can be sooooo inconsistent, like a few of the posts here mention......most mix crossfaders just don't cut sharp enough.
and it can sound veeeeeeery wank
I'd love a djm600 with a really sharp long lasting xfader......... if a version of that came out, i'd buy one tomorrow.....
anyone had a go of the Pioneer djm909's??
Barely Human
04-02-2004, 12:59 PM
I have to say yes! But like everyone else has said, in modderation! Im not being big headed, but i can scratch, beat juggle, and anything else you wanna throw at a pair of decks, and i dont over do it when mixing hard trance! Sometimes DJ's think that scratching poorly is better than not scratching at all, which is wrong imo. And the comment made about scrathing doesnt work with dance music is complete bolox! I can mix hardcore techno, and stick beat juggling and all sorts into it, and it comes out fine, since a lot of the music is hip hop orientated!
the original topic was not slagging off friday night or the djs involved. purley does it work our not ? in your own option ? good to see some wicked reponses. i thought yes in moderation !
71 percent yes for scratching, so far intresting...... :shock:
DJ Corbzy
04-02-2004, 06:27 PM
Yeah very interesting, I honestly thought the majority would be against it... :neutral:
skron
10-03-2004, 07:42 PM
it can work with a hard style set for sure..
hard trance.. i'm not entirely convinced, but i've even heard a crazy melodic set with scratching.. sounded off at first but very well done.
guess anyone can pull it off if done right
CHUCK-E
23-03-2004, 12:41 PM
As most have said, if the DJs good at it it works, it's nice over break beaty patterns in hard trance tunes, but as some have also said the DJs who cant scratch will say NO, Tho's who can will say yes
DJRazza
23-03-2004, 01:38 PM
nah not scratchin in trance ive heard it dont like it :nono:
bizzare 31 votes and most are still 4 it :shock: :shock:
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