[HARD TRANCE] >>> WEZENTIGER - NO DAWN <<<

[WEZ]

Finished Structure last night 0200 , Gunna leave the Trancey Stuff alone for a while , takes far to long !

95% done , just needs a tidy up and EQ properly nice N loud !

Few Mistakes I know about but would love some feedback Chaps N Lasses !

;)

http://www.allmass.co.uk/NO%20DAWN%20LOW.zip

[Process]

not bad so far, i dont think it really kicks off though, could do with more impact after the break as it ends pretty quickly after without really peaking, maybe if you revised the sequence.

if you shorten the intro section so the break happens closer to the 3 min mark perhaps then get a more enegetic launch after the break down with a longer time given to the end section.

although its a 96k mp3 you can still get a pretty good idea of how drums are sounding and id say the kick drum could be much tighter, apply some compression to it and get it punching out.

at the moment the track is more plodding along, i think there is room for a lot more energy here, unless of course the intention is a progressive feel?

hope this helps :)

[WEZ]

Yeah sweet mate , thats good feedback ! :cool:

[WEZ]

High Quality Version :

http://www.allmass.co.uk/NO%20DAWN%20HIGH.zip

;)

[Barely Human]

Not a bad tune mate ;) Not really my thing tho so its hard to comment fairly on the content side. I would say tho, its a bit long isnt it?? Everything seams to gel well together, but a couple of things stand out to me. The hit hats are panned to drastically imo. Maybe just pan them a little more to the center. And the bass seams far to wide :shock: I think the kick could do with bringing out, or even changed for a deeper, more rolling kick. Everything thing else seams spot on tho mate ;)

Keep it up dood :lol:

[dj vorny]

not a bad attempt wez it does drag on imo and doesnt seem to have peak but then again i dont listen to this type of trance so i coldnt compare it to other tunes .but production is nice plenty of sounds in there, the kick needs to stand out more i think tho maybe it would be better with a harder one but again just my opinion ;) not bad man just try and make it better :lol:

[WEZ]

:lol: totally agree chaps , havent masterd yet loud , and noticed a few mistakes myself !

TBH got a bit fed up with Trancey Sounds , to complex , need a break from it , Going Harder now , COMING SOON ON A DEMO NEAR YOU

[WEZ]

had to move , new link

http://www.allmass.co.uk/W/NO%20DAWN%20LOW.zip

[dj vorny]

any news on the final edit and master wez of no dawn or demo 2 ? :clap: :clap: :doh: i wanna here the final master ;) cmaaan :rambo: :twisted:

[WEZ]

NO DAWN ORIGINAL - ( Comments taken on board and Completed )
NO DAWN CUT VERSION - ( Completed )
DEMO 2 - ( New Decks - New Production - New MC APPROX 2 WEEKS TO GO )

;)

[Dean-E]

Tis all good my friend

[WEZ]

ORIGINAL VERSION

http://www.allmass.co.uk/W/NO%20DAWN%20ORIGINAL.zip

CUT VERSION

http://www.allmass.co.uk/W/NO%20DAWN%20CUT%20VERSION.zip

Think I cracked it , lemmy know if not :oops:

[Barely Human]

Nah...first on was shit, and so is this one :shock:

Hahaha! Only jokin! I'll check out the new on when i get chance mate ;)

[WEZ]

i know , whats a bristolian to do !

:lol:

[EmotionComplex]

just downloading it now, ill give it a vigerous evaluation for u in a min

[WEZ]

ok , thanks for hosting me everyone ,i m about to get Gregified , i may never return !

[EmotionComplex]

ok , thanks for hosting me everyone ,i m about to get Gregified , i may never return !

hahaha, right *cracks knuckles*

i wasnt expecting the mp3 to be 604kbps :lol: but fair play, no glitch can hide now ;) .

the first min or so youve got spot on, production is sounding how it should be, it sounds like bassline and the main riff are fighting for space though, bassline is almost lost from 2:19, i think the bass line needs compression and the main riff eq ing to open up room, try using waves maxxbass on the bassline after youve toghtened it up a bit, it will allow you to add much needed bottom end to it, maybe get rid of some of the lower mids from the main riff aswell.

im typing as i move back and forth in the recording so apologies if the feedback is a little muddled in order.

i think its a bit muddy at the moment, needs more balance in freqs as most of whats going on is happening in the mid and lower mid range of the recording,if you could place the riff higher i think that would help.

the breakdown is a bit of an anti climax also, the section before it is pretty thick in percussion while after the break it goes into a less busy section which would be more suited to nearer the end.
i think the main thing you need to do is go in there and tighten everything up and give it its own space to exist in. i remember you saying you have wavelab, as your working on the track get it running through the spectrum analyser within wave lab and see were the space is being cramped or under used and go back and eq acordingly.

get some tight compression on the kick drum so it snaps through also, it needs to be a lot tighter.

the keyword is tighness here :lol: , its a bit loose at the moment i think, for a hard trance trance it needs to hit hard and tight.

hope this helps, of course this is all just my opinion ;)

[WEZ]

All good Greg mate , still havent Masterd Mastering / Compression yet :oops: it is a major downfall i know , as long as the main ideas are ok !

Hep obi wan kanobi , im a stupid cunt , hahaaha

cheer greg mate , a pleasure to read !

[EmotionComplex]

All good Greg mate , still havent Masterd Mastering / Compression yet :oops: it is a major downfall i know , as long as the main ideas are ok !

Hep obi wan kanobi , im a stupid cunt , hahaaha

cheer greg mate , a pleasure to read !

i havent masterd compression and stuff myself either mate :lol: although i must say its not as daunting as it seems when you get down to it, i reckon youll get your head around it pretty quickly if you spend a bit of time :cool: ;)

[WEZ]

defo mate , got some time off soon , defo gunna get me head round it , as long as its listenable for now , not that bad it sounds like a trodden on casste tape , ahhaahah at least , or does it ?

hahaha

cheer greg for your support mate , means a lot man !

[Addict]

I've got no idea about production mate but all I can say is that your stuff sounds pretty good to me... ;) ...but it never seems to really kick off but maybe that's just your style :neutral:

[Si the Sigh]

Good track Wez, but its not as good as mine! Check this bad boy out...
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/myflomusic.htm :twisted:

[EmotionComplex]

si thats incredible HAHAHAH :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap:

[Si the Sigh]

Needs compressing &amp; a bit of tweeking mind you... :lol:

[~cheeky~]

Good track Wez, but its not as good as mine! Check this bad boy out...
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/myflomusic.htm :twisted:

i just put it on and my daughter is clapping away :lol:

[EmotionComplex]

:lol: , si if you do an album i will buy it :love:

[WEZ]

" BOWS TO MASTER SI "

AHHAAHAHAAH

[~cheeky~]

wez i cant seem to download yer tune hun :doh:

[WEZ]

http://www.allmass.co.uk/W/NO%20DAWN%20CUT%20VERSION.zip

http://www.allmass.co.uk/W/NO%20DAWN%20ORIGINAL.zip

;)

[~cheeky~]

ok ;)
why will my pc only let me save the file thou and not just open it or do i have to save it?

am i doing something wrong or what?

[WEZ]

um click it , it will say , OPEN OR SAVE !

Save it where ever you want and open it !

Or just OPEN it if you have Broadband ! ;)

[EmotionComplex]

there zips so youl have to wait for the whole file to download :cool:

[WEZ]

and that ! :lol:

[Si the Sigh]

TranceTrek --> http://www.zockbar.de/midi/voyager.mid :rambo:

[~cheeky~]

um click it , it will say , OPEN OR SAVE !

Save it where ever you want and open it !

Or just OPEN it if you have Broadband ! ;)

yea im on broadband but when i just open it a page comes up saying downloading,then it says done but nout happens.
is it quicker to just open rather than download to your pc?
i dont understand all this but i know i dont wana end up with a pesky virus cause ive downloaded stuff but at the same time i do wana listen to peoples tunes :doh:

[WEZ]

Summat wrong with your PC then , nout wrong with the Server which has No Virus's by the way ! ;)

[~cheeky~]

its prob down to me not knowing what im doing with my pc :oops:

[~cheeky~]

oh i like,whos a clever boy then http://www.click-smilies.de/my_smileys/smileys1/woot.gif

yea go harder i think you'll be good ;)

[WEZ]

yeah trying to ween away from the Trancey Stuff for a bit , hard as in Hard House !?

Or Dirty Bastard Techno ! :lol:

[~cheeky~]

dont mind so long as its hard.
just wonder if i listen to more techno(hard thou) i will actually get into it.

[~cheeky~]

freeform is good ;)