Has Hard trance gone too Euphoric?

[Paul Nisbet]

How many producers are making stuff as dark as ASYS?

Answers on a post card please.

[ADDI]

:roll: where do you want the blank postcard sent to ???

[DJRazza]

How many producers are making stuff as dark as ASYS?

Answers on a post card please.


personally i like hard trance to be euphoric and if anything its gone less euphoric then when m zone and mark eg were playing sets in the late 90s :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

I think that was a silly question to ask Paul :lol:

[DJRazza]

I think that was a silly question to ask Paul :lol:


what u mean corbz? :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

I think that was a silly question to ask Paul :lol:


what u mean corbz? :lol:

'too euphoric' - I wouldnt say Hard Trance is too Euphoric! Theres loads of different shit!

[DJRazza]

I think that was a silly question to ask Paul :lol:


what u mean corbz? :lol:

'too euphoric' - I wouldnt say Hard Trance is too Euphoric! Theres loads of different shit!


i agree with ya mate :lol:

[Paul Nisbet]

I dont really tbh, there isnt much of the dark and deep stuff around anymore.

Everything is well happy.

[mrbenn]

Theres a bit to much hands in the air stuff now. A bit of euphoric stuff is good but we could do with some more green martian style melodies. The stuff mark eg and m-zone used to play was'nt all euphoric either. Alot of it woz dark pumping stuff.

[lukekendall]

All the dark stuff that used to go along with hard trance has drifted off to hardstyle i think :twisted:

[DJRazza]

All the dark stuff that used to go along with hard trance has drifted off to hardstyle i think :twisted:


u might be right there :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

razza why do you laugh after everything? :lol:

[DJRazza]

razza why do you laugh after everything? :lol:


what like u are doing in this u mean why not better than being a miserable cunt innit :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[DJRazza]

and no i am not saying that u are one either mate :lol:

[evanrees]

I dont know if shits gone too euphoric. But we definitely need more Dark Deep ASYS style stuff. (although even their new track isnt too dark). Really just need more hard stuff that isnt the 'typical' Hardstyle sound.

[Dave Elyzium]

Definatley far too much 3/4 8 bar melodies around (if anyone knows what i mean lol), also i think (if its possible) that stuff right now is maybe OVER produced to such an extent that it becomes almost too polished and clean sounding, not pickign out any tracks in particular for these comments, its just my gut reaction to the sound as a whole right now, im finding myself drawn back to the older stuff more and more right now...

[epidemic001]

I just assumed that anything dark was classed as hardstyle these days.


P.S. Corbz you crack me up mate!

[Dan.T.]

I defo agree here... I think the production from some people is SO tight that anything they make becomes "nice" rather than 'avin it. I guess its TOO complete, not making you want MORE from it.

[DJRazza]

the words trance basically mean melody and euphoria to be in a trance is like to be in a nice place so trance needs euphoria and hard trance is hard kick ,hard bassline and euphoria to go with it thats why hardstyle is what it is cos its not so much melody but more hard imo anyway if u gonna take melody away from hard trance then dont call it hard trance anymore :lol: cos it wont be trance anyway, im abit pissed up but still i believe wot im saying and stick by it :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

I just assumed that anything dark was classed as hardstyle these days.


P.S. Corbz you crack me up mate!

How!? :lol:

[skron]

nah..

there's something for everyone...
still dark and deep trance..
there's also still upbeat and euphoric stuff too.

:)

[Paul Nisbet]

the words trance basically mean melody and euphoria to be in a trance is like to be in a nice place so trance needs euphoria and hard trance is hard kick ,hard bassline and euphoria to go with it thats why hardstyle is what it is cos its not so much melody but more hard imo anyway if u gonna take melody away from hard trance then dont call it hard trance anymore :lol: cos it wont be trance anyway, im abit pissed up but still i believe wot im saying and stick by it :lol:

Just because it has trance in it, doesnt mean it has to have a full on euphoric vibe mate.

Trance can be done in many ways and imo, is only really following the one path at the mo.

[DJRazza]

it is my opinion mate at the end of the day :lol:

[K Front]

the words trance basically mean melody and euphoria to be in a trance is like to be in a nice place so trance needs euphoria and hard trance is hard kick ,hard bassline and euphoria to go with it thats why hardstyle is what it is cos its not so much melody but more hard imo anyway if u gonna take melody away from hard trance then dont call it hard trance anymore :lol: cos it wont be trance anyway, im abit pissed up but still i believe wot im saying and stick by it :lol:

I dont agree with that tbh. You say hardstyle is hardstyle because its too hard to label hard trance? and because it doesnt have a melody?

Plenty of hard trance is harder than some hardstyle, and hardstyle also has melodys..
Klasic and sanders mix of TG - wildstyle generation, is a perfect example, harder than a lot of hardstyle, with a melody.

[DJRazza]

so what makes hard trance and hardstyle different then? :lol:

[Si the Sigh]

...thats an easy question to answer. Hardstyle's gay.













(joke! ;) )

[DJRazza]

...thats an easy question to answer. Hardstyle's gay.





hahahahah :lol: anyway im probably wrong i normally am :lol:













(joke! ;) )

[Dave Elyzium]

Again the argument has come aound to genre names not the actual music...i mean for ****s sake what tranc meant in 1994 is a long ****ign way from what it meant in say 1997 or 2000 for example....TRANCE IS A FEELING, NOT A GENRE

[Dave Elyzium]

sorry if that post came accross a bit agro ;) :twisted:

[Si the Sigh]

techno puts me in more of a trance than trance... :crackup:

[Tommy Tracid]

I have to disagree there lad i know what your saying that there are only a few great producers like a*s*y*s and hennes and cold, uberdruck but what makes it good is that you dont get bored of these because your always waiting till they bring their next tune out knowing that its gonna be a stomper!! :crackup:

[DJRazza]

everyone has got there own views at the end of the day so leave it at that :lol:

[Paul Nisbet]

it is my opinion mate at the end of the day :lol:

that wasnt an opinion tho, that was a statment?

[DJRazza]

it was an opinion like it says :lol:

[DJRazza]

lets not turn this into an argument ok maybe it was a statement but its also just my opinion too dosent mean im right or wrong :lol:

[K Front]

Your wrong, now go home! :lol:

[Paul Nisbet]

[quote="K Front"]Your wrong, now go home! :lol:


:clap:

[MARKEG]

eh eh calm down calm down!

[Si the Sigh]

"shut it you slag!"

[Paul Nisbet]

:lol:

[DJRazza]

im calm :lol: and at home :lol:

[Ben C]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

[Hakka]

Hmm... I see what your saying Ben. For me I love a good german hard trance tune, but I rarely find them about today. The recent Tunnel Trance release by Dynamic D's I thought was class... and I try to find the hardstyle that has melody with it to fill the gap between hard trance and hard style.

[Paul Nisbet]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.


:clap:

Yip

[DJ SPUDIE]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

In it, all labelled hard trance sounds like cheese :lol:
Only really Gas are 'Hard Trance ' that I like at the mo

[Yoshimitsu]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

In it, all labelled hard trance sounds like cheese :lol:
Only really Gas are 'Hard Trance ' that I like at the mo

Innit apart from future sound corp and some of jay walker's stuff :cry:

[DJ SPUDIE]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

In it, all labelled hard trance sounds like cheese :lol:
Only really Gas are 'Hard Trance ' that I like at the mo

Innit apart from future sound corp and some of jay walker's stuff :cry:

Shit- Forgot about F.S.C

[Paul Nisbet]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

In it, all labelled hard trance sounds like cheese :lol:
Only really Gas are 'Hard Trance ' that I like at the mo

I thought gas tbh, have been pretty shite lately.

FSC have been spot on but.

[Yoshimitsu]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

In it, all labelled hard trance sounds like cheese :lol:
Only really Gas are 'Hard Trance ' that I like at the mo

I thought gas tbh, have been pretty shite lately.

.

Didnt u like that 'kiss that sound' tune?

[DJ SPUDIE]

Na Gas prob my fav label.

[DJ SPUDIE]

Yoshi whats that new FSC tune called ? Thats a spot on tune :clap:

[Paul Nisbet]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

In it, all labelled hard trance sounds like cheese :lol:
Only really Gas are 'Hard Trance ' that I like at the mo

I thought gas tbh, have been pretty shite lately.

.

Didnt u like that 'kiss that sound' tune?

its not bad, but u know.

Not as good as it could ave been... i honestly think that hard trance is alrite just now. But nowhere near as good as it could be, and until it starts pushing forward i really cant call it good music.

Gas, wat have they done in the last 6 months? Pushed towards a sound, that isnt hard trance.

Im pissed off with everyone moaning about the state of hard trance and then u ave labels like gas movin away from the sound.

Wat is that all about peeps?

[Yoshimitsu]

Yoshi whats that new FSC tune called ? Thats a spot on tune :clap:

Dunno you could b on about log:ones tune or club experience 1 of the 2 ;)

[sean.demaine]

haha - Im really liking the trance thats around at the mo .... :lol: :love:

[Yoshimitsu]

in a word - YES.

this is the reason i got into Hardstyle, cos Hard Trance just wasnt 'Hard' enough for me anymore. Too much cheesy German Stuff on the go, it sounds too commercial for me. :nono: Even Overdose and Pulse and Tracid Traxxx dont do it for me anymore and they were my 3 fave labels not too long ago.

In it, all labelled hard trance sounds like cheese :lol:
Only really Gas are 'Hard Trance ' that I like at the mo

I thought gas tbh, have been pretty shite lately.

.



Didnt u like that 'kiss that sound' tune?

its not bad, but u know.

Not as good as it could ave been... i honestly think that hard trance is alrite just now. But nowhere near as good as it could be, and until it starts pushing forward i really cant call it good music.

Gas, wat have they done in the last 6 months? Pushed towards a sound, that isnt hard trance.

Im pissed off with everyone moaning about the state of hard trance and then u ave labels like gas movin away from the sound.

Wat is that all about peeps?

Gas aint quite comin out wiv the same goods they used to :neutral: