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Paul Nisbet
21-05-2004, 09:49 PM
Little review by myself,

imo a good tune. I like the overall vibe and sounds in this tune. Its scot project after all... But guys. U know im a big fan of him. Even tho the production (imo) is UNREAL. I cant help think he is struggling for ideas to take things forward. For ur standard fan of hard dance, then u probs wont notice?

But has it got to the point that even wat some mite say is one of the kings of hard trance, has become scared to stray from his sound too far (even at that, wat says he has to). He seems to be taking one step at a time with subtle changed here and there.

But as im a fan of him, and still cain his work... i still cant help think that there is nothing in this tune that has blown me away (and still in all honesty, not many peeps can even touch him, and that is wat worries me!!!). He used to make tunes dark and uplifting. Why not now? When was the last time u heard a filthy tune from scot proj?

What is goin on with that hard trance scene? When kings of the scene Scot project and Uberdruck (imo, no matter wat anyone says) are in all honesty struggling? Think about the last big release for u personally in the last 2 years from either producer. Can u feel the same vibe and sounds lurking in and around there new productions? Be honest.

skron
21-05-2004, 11:23 PM
seems very slow for a while now...

good points m8.


although i think blue pill is a quality release.. they haven't released bombs like they have in the past.

DJ Corbzy
22-05-2004, 02:08 AM
Didn't like Cockroaches, thought it didn't go anywhere!

skron
22-05-2004, 03:44 AM
aye

Paul Nisbet
22-05-2004, 08:46 AM
seems very slow for a while now...

good points m8.


although i think blue pill is a quality release.. they haven't released bombs like they have in the past.

I thought blue pill was alrite tbh, but again had summit they done a year or 2 earlier imo written all over it.

Voorheez
22-05-2004, 09:45 AM
Hmm, don't forget FM though, which is one of Frankie's best releases ever, not just lately. When that came out I had nearly given up on the thought of hearing a good Scot Project tune and that restored my faith.

Cockroaches is pretty dull, and not something i'll play but it's just fingers crossed to wait for the next big tune he produces. In the meantime you always have good ol' Jay Walker to fill his shoes!

Tim Hidgem
22-05-2004, 11:20 AM
Some good points Paul!! :clap:

As I've said before I have never played ANY Uberdruck productions in any sets in the past and very rarely play any Scot Project trax either (even though FM was a quality tune).

This is no doubt one of my biggest down falls but the reason I don't play productions from the these prodution pioneers is because I know everyone else will be playing them. Now this means that I miss out on some quality tunage (even though I'm not an Uberdruck fan) but I hope I gain by playing sets that are different for anyone else.

Its is very rare that most producers can always keep a head of the game after being at the top after 5,6,7 or more years which means most of them will have a "Best before" date.

You just gotta decide when that date is otherwise it might start tasting rotten!!

My advice is that we should never put all our eggs in one basket by relying on certain labels and producers to float you boat year after year. We should always be checking the "youth team" to see whats coming through!!!

Just my thoughts.

Tim

Yoshimitsu
25-05-2004, 01:48 PM
i fekin love this tune kiks in proper sly in places :clap:

Paul Nisbet
25-05-2004, 06:34 PM
i fekin love this tune kiks in proper sly in places :clap:

Its a tune man, no doubt imo.

Hope no one gets me wrong on this, i love the tune... its just the vibe of it.

Nothing really all that new eh.

DJ IKON
25-05-2004, 09:17 PM
As I've said before I have never played ANY Uberdruck productions in any sets in the past and very rarely play any Scot Project trax either (even though FM was a quality tune).



Thank **** for that! Me neither and I was beginning to think I was the only one!

chem-x
25-05-2004, 09:39 PM
I don't really get the criticism of Überdruck though..

The upcoming remix of Gladheadz - Drug addicted Psycho is sick, so is their remix of consistent circles by Wallstädt & Dorfler, the latest Toolboy release ain't bad at all either...

I personally think überdruck is on a really good roll these days.

Their production quality is getting better by the next all the way.



I trust in überdruck these days, but I do agree Cockroaches lacks somewhat Content-- Though I picked it up it's definitely nothing near his biggest productions.

chem-x
25-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Scot project that is **

Could be misunderstood, my writing is a bit off color today :P

Tristan
25-05-2004, 10:00 PM
I don't really get the criticism of Überdruck though..

The upcoming remix of Gladheadz - Drug addicted Psycho is sick

Innit mate :clap:

I tought "Cockroaches" was alright too nothing special though. Dont reckon im gonna buy it :cool:

EmotionComplex
26-05-2004, 12:32 AM
i heard the preview of this a little while ago and thought it was class, just listened to it again and still think its a cool track although the preview i heard had this dark voice that said some words at the end of each of the main coachroach speech parts at the beggining that i thought sounded well cool as a little touch, but it seems that must of been a sample from the record shop site it was on at the time as its not there in the actual track.

i think its easy to put a tune down as being a bit boring somtimes when it isnt a full on stormer (i think i do it myself sometimes) but in the case of this track i think its more layed back approach is just the ticket, its tracks like this that help build a set and in the case of this track it'd allow you to add a almost seedy sounding twist to a set which i think is cool.



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Yoshimitsu
26-05-2004, 12:05 PM
got this today :dance:

Paul Nisbet
26-05-2004, 06:29 PM
i heard the preview of this a little while ago and thought it was class, just listened to it again and still think its a cool track although the preview i heard had this dark voice that said some words at the end of each of the main coachroach speech parts at the beggining that i thought sounded well cool as a little touch, but it seems that must of been a sample from the record shop site it was on at the time as its not there in the actual track.

i think its easy to put a tune down as being a bit boring somtimes when it isnt a full on stormer (i think i do it myself sometimes) but in the case of this track i think its more layed back approach is just the ticket, its tracks like this that help build a set and in the case of this track it'd allow you to add a almost seedy sounding twist to a set which i think is cool.



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Thats how i see it mate, no big massive riff, just simple touches, loads of stops and starts and imo good thought has went into the arrangement of the track.

Yoshimitsu
27-05-2004, 12:35 AM
After playin this tune a bit now i swear i rate it amongst the best of scot projects work. Like you say, lots of stops and starts and kinda keeps you guessin. Well impressed with this one :clap:

Only criticism is that it feels like your waiting for it to do somthing but it never quite gets there :neutral:

Paul Nisbet
27-05-2004, 07:44 PM
Only criticism is that it feels like your waiting for it to do somthing but it never quite gets there :neutral:

I like that mate, u are expecting that massive riff to come... and it doesnt.

Just more beats and bass. Noice. :lol:

Yoshimitsu
27-05-2004, 07:54 PM
Only criticism is that it feels like your waiting for it to do somthing but it never quite gets there :neutral:

I like that mate, u are expecting that massive riff to come... and it doesnt.

Just more beats and bass. Noice. :lol:

its an amazing tune :clap:

DJ SPUDIE
28-05-2004, 12:29 AM
Only criticism is that it feels like your waiting for it to do somthing but it never quite gets there :neutral:

I like that mate, u are expecting that massive riff to come... and it doesnt.

Just more beats and bass. Noice. :lol:

This tune just keeps on kickin in and in and in and in :lol: :rambo: :rambo:


Just wot I wont to here :rambo:

choppers
28-05-2004, 06:53 PM
its a belter for building up imo.

a wee rest, bouncin along niceley,and then into another stormer.

got to be quick wi the mix out tho! :rambo:

CHUCK-E
28-05-2004, 07:15 PM
Its wiked production, but not 1 of his all time greats u no?

If it wasnt Scot Proj' and some 'new' producer, may bee peeps wud be biggin it up more, we have come 2 expect only the best from {IMO} the number 1 hard trance producer... :clap:

Yoshimitsu
29-05-2004, 01:11 PM
last tune of the nite @ the grove :clap:

Tristan
30-05-2004, 02:18 PM
last tune of the nite @ the grove :clap:

It ****ing rocked the place didnt it :clap:

Yoshimitsu
30-05-2004, 03:04 PM
last tune of the nite @ the grove :clap:

It ****ing rocked the place didnt it :clap:

too rite m8 i wanted more :evil:

DJ Corbzy
01-06-2004, 09:58 PM
Yeah you get to love this after a while....

Hellova tune... ;)

Yoshimitsu
02-06-2004, 01:49 PM
Yeah you get to love this after a while....

Hellova tune... ;)

seen the light :lol:

DJ SPUDIE
02-06-2004, 01:54 PM
Yeah you get to love this after a while....

Hellova tune... ;)


:clap: :clap:

Paul Nisbet
02-06-2004, 06:21 PM
Yeah you get to love this after a while....

Hellova tune... ;)

;)

Its a grower.

DJ Corbzy
02-06-2004, 11:00 PM
Yeah you get to love this after a while....

Hellova tune... ;)

;)

Its a grower.

defo :clap:

Voorheez
03-06-2004, 06:04 PM
I've seen the light too now :shock:

This tune is like one of those magic eye pictures :lol: I listened to it time and time again, and finally it just clicked on the last time

CHUCK-E
03-06-2004, 07:42 PM
lol...

Its a dance floor tune, the production is more say, umm... top notch and adventerous on Feelin ME, but this is a dance floor slammer ;)

Paul Nisbet
03-06-2004, 08:21 PM
;)


:lol:

DJ SPUDIE
04-06-2004, 12:29 AM
Every time I hear this tune it just keeps on growing on me.
Fcuking class. Fair play Scot Proj

DJ Corbzy
07-06-2004, 02:40 PM
I would say it was more of a filler tbh, the track doesn't go anywhere like FM did, it's good to stick in between a couple of hard tracks because the bassline is there.

Defo a quality track tho... :clap:

Ben C
07-06-2004, 02:45 PM
i think this is pretty average by Mr Zenker's standards.

didnt like the break / melody.

bring back the sick tunes like 'O' and 'F' and Visions Of Paradise, which is probably his best tune ever IMO.

Yoshimitsu
07-06-2004, 06:17 PM
i think this is pretty average by Mr Zenker's standards.

didnt like the break / melody.

bring back the sick tunes like 'O' and 'F' and Visions Of Paradise, which is probably his best tune ever IMO.

yeh visions of paradise is class :clap:

DJ SPUDIE
07-06-2004, 06:20 PM
FM is his best so far imo :clap: :clap:

Yoshimitsu
07-06-2004, 06:22 PM
his best release is well arguable :lol:

DJCraig Ryan
07-06-2004, 06:37 PM
In my opinion, without doubt, Scot's best tune is "Future Is Now"

Absolute Classic!

Yoshimitsu
07-06-2004, 06:43 PM
In my opinion, without doubt, Scot's best tune is "Future Is Now"

Absolute Classic!

i sold that :doh:

Tristan
07-06-2004, 06:56 PM
I think this is pretty average by Mr Zenker's standards

Yeah i agree mate, a wicked tune but nothing amazing (i still bought it though ;) )

His best relese is Arome - Scream or DJx2000 - Modem imo :lol:

Paul Nisbet
07-06-2004, 07:10 PM
Agreed with wi the comment on F, he should release more like that... its a missed sound.

Oh and i think maybe, just maybe second trip is best.

Yoshimitsu
07-06-2004, 07:16 PM
Oh and i think maybe, just maybe second trip is best.

the original hardstyle bassline :clap:

Tristan
07-06-2004, 07:17 PM
i actully reckon in terms if production FM is the best but that dose not meen to say its my favorite of his tunes!

Paul Nisbet
07-06-2004, 07:40 PM
i actully reckon in terms if production FM is the best but that dose not meen to say its my favorite of his tunes!

Fm in terms of production is probs best, but tbh i dont think cockroaches is all that far behind.

Think the riff, which is good. Is a bit too weak to give it best accolade, i think for his trancier style, ding a ling is probs my fave.

Tristan
07-06-2004, 07:42 PM
i actully reckon in terms if production FM is the best but that dose not meen to say its my favorite of his tunes!

Fm in terms of production is probs best, but tbh i dont think cockroaches is all that far behind.

Think the riff, which is good. Is a bit too weak to give it best accolade, i think for his trancier style, ding a ling is probs my fave.

ding a ling :love:

Yoshimitsu
07-06-2004, 07:46 PM
i actully reckon in terms if production FM is the best but that dose not meen to say its my favorite of his tunes!

Fm in terms of production is probs best, but tbh i dont think cockroaches is all that far behind.

Think the riff, which is good. Is a bit too weak to give it best accolade, i think for his trancier style, ding a ling is probs my fave.

innit i reckon cockoaches is dfo one of his best

DJCraig Ryan
07-06-2004, 09:08 PM
Agreed with wi the comment on F, he should release more like that... its a missed sound.

Oh and i think maybe, just maybe second trip is best.



Deffo a missed sound Paul! Second trip is up there in terms of immense production & quality!

I'm still rating his older stuff in both Production and Quality to his recent work.

Yoshimitsu
07-06-2004, 09:48 PM
Agreed with wi the comment on F, he should release more like that... its a missed sound.

Oh and i think maybe, just maybe second trip is best.



Deffo a missed sound Paul! Second trip is up there in terms of immense production & quality!

I'm still rating his older stuff in both Production and Quality to his recent work.

scot project practically got me in to hard trance

Ben C
08-06-2004, 12:35 AM
Agreed with wi the comment on F, he should release more like that... its a missed sound.

Oh and i think maybe, just maybe second trip is best.



Deffo a missed sound Paul! Second trip is up there in terms of immense production & quality!

I'm still rating his older stuff in both Production and Quality to his recent work.

im with you on that one.

oh yeah, and 2nd trip...forgot about that one. Defo his best peice of work to date!!! :love:

DJ Corbzy
09-06-2004, 12:53 PM
Come with me is the best Scot Project... :lol:

Jay M
09-06-2004, 01:55 PM
Come with me is the best Scot Project... :lol:

yeah thats one of my fave remixes of his :clap:

Tristan
09-06-2004, 05:46 PM
Come with me is the best Scot Project... :lol:

ohh yeah, forgott i even had this :lol:

skron
09-06-2004, 06:48 PM
Hands Up is my fav scot production

evanrees
10-06-2004, 12:00 AM
He just has too many wicked tunes to name the best. All about equal in my opinion. I cant believe noone has mentioned Cold Night though. I personally prefer the style of most of the arome tracks/remixes more. But whatever is your fav is i guess everyone agrees that Mr. Zenker is a God in terms of the quality of his Hard Trance production. Not many can compare.

Yoshimitsu
10-06-2004, 12:03 AM
He just has too many wicked tunes to name the best. All about equal in my opinion. I cant believe noone has mentioned Cold Night though. I personally prefer the style of most of the arome tracks/remixes more. But whatever is your fav is i guess everyone agrees that Mr. Zenker is a God in terms of the quality of his Hard Trance production. Not many can compare.

innit hes amongst the best :clap:

EmotionComplex
10-06-2004, 12:09 AM
He just has too many wicked tunes to name the best. All about equal in my opinion. I cant believe noone has mentioned Cold Night though. I personally prefer the style of most of the arome tracks/remixes more. But whatever is your fav is i guess everyone agrees that Mr. Zenker is a God in terms of the quality of his Hard Trance production. Not many can compare.

i loved his remix of cold night :love:

DJ SPUDIE
12-06-2004, 10:04 PM
Hands Up is my fav scot production

Tis a classic :clap:

DJ SPUDIE
12-06-2004, 10:05 PM
i actully reckon in terms if production FM is the best but that dose not meen to say its my favorite of his tunes!

Fm in terms of production is probs best, but tbh i dont think cockroaches is all that far behind.

Think the riff, which is good. Is a bit too weak to give it best accolade, i think for his trancier style, ding a ling is probs my fave.

innit i reckon cockoaches is dfo one of his best


Its got to be has'nt it :lol: :rambo: :clap: :love:

DJ Corbzy
14-06-2004, 10:38 AM
Come with me is the best Scot Project... :lol:

yeah thats one of my fave remixes of his :clap:

I love it mate, it's not the typical, mind blowing production but the riff and the bassline! :love:

Hellraiser
15-06-2004, 03:13 PM
Usual Dj Scot Project style production with a very odd vocal sample.

I prefer the original. It has a really funky edge to it.

Yoshimitsu
15-06-2004, 03:22 PM
Usual Dj Scot Project style production with a very odd vocal sample.

I prefer the original. It has a really funky edge to it.

i like the sample coz its random as fcuk :lol:

DJ SPUDIE
15-06-2004, 03:24 PM
Usual Dj Scot Project style production with a very odd vocal sample.

I prefer the original. It has a really funky edge to it.

i like the sample coz its random as fcuk :lol:


Innit

Hellraiser
15-06-2004, 03:27 PM
I will have to give it a second listen maybe...

But after hearing his remix of 'Derb - DFC', I am dying to hear his newer productions. It's totally different to the usual Dj Scot Project sound.

DJ SPUDIE
15-06-2004, 03:57 PM
I will have to give it a second listen maybe...

But after hearing his remix of 'Derb - DFC', I am dying to hear his newer productions. It's totally different to the usual Dj Scot Project sound.

Cockroaches will grow on you m8

Yoshimitsu
15-06-2004, 04:00 PM
"whats the moral of this story? i have no idea! The cockroach!"

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/big/evil.gif

DJ Backlash
28-06-2004, 11:48 AM
its ****ing shit

DJ SPUDIE
28-06-2004, 06:36 PM
its **** shit



Its shit :dontevengothere:

Voorheez
28-06-2004, 08:15 PM
its **** shit



Its shit :dontevengothere:

Hey obviously it's shit - I mean I thought it was amazing, but DJ Backlash has said it's shit, so I guess it's shit.

Paul Nisbet
28-06-2004, 08:25 PM
its **** shit



Its shit :dontevengothere:

Hey obviously it's shit - I mean I thought it was amazing, but DJ Backlash has said it's shit, so I guess it's shit.

Lmfao, well jesus cor blimey pantey hosen.

One of the few tracks so far that aint got a massive riff of sound the same as everythin else.... a builder or foundation track imo.

****in fab.


LMFAO

Yoshimitsu
29-06-2004, 02:10 PM
its **** shit



Its shit :dontevengothere:

Hey obviously it's shit - I mean I thought it was amazing, but DJ Backlash has said it's shit, so I guess it's shit.

:lol: :lol:

Louk
30-06-2004, 02:57 AM
In my opinion, without doubt, Scot's best tune is "Future Is Now"

Absolute Classic!


COME WITH MEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry got carried away there, but his mix of talla 2xlc all the way

Louk

Louk
30-06-2004, 03:00 AM
I heard this track and almost cried laughing when I heard the vocal

But i love the stabs and percussion and bass on this and the whole tune is class!

It does have a riff to it but just a very simple one but yeah i'm well into it!!

Louk

DJ SPUDIE
30-06-2004, 07:21 PM
I heard this track and almost cried laughing when I heard the vocal

But i love the stabs and percussion and bass on this and the whole tune is class!

It does have a riff to it but just a very simple one but yeah i'm well into it!!

Louk



Innit, the first kick in is mental

spin this...
10-07-2004, 10:44 PM
Little review by myself,

imo a good tune. I like the overall vibe and sounds in this tune. Its scot project after all... But guys. U know im a big fan of him. Even tho the production (imo) is UNREAL. I cant help think he is struggling for ideas to take things forward. For ur standard fan of hard dance, then u probs wont notice?

But has it got to the point that even wat some mite say is one of the kings of hard trance, has become scared to stray from his sound too far (even at that, wat says he has to). He seems to be taking one step at a time with subtle changed here and there.

But as im a fan of him, and still cain his work... i still cant help think that there is nothing in this tune that has blown me away (and still in all honesty, not many peeps can even touch him, and that is wat worries me!!!). He used to make tunes dark and uplifting. Why not now? When was the last time u heard a filthy tune from scot proj?

What is goin on with that hard trance scene? When kings of the scene Scot project and Uberdruck (imo, no matter wat anyone says) are in all honesty struggling? Think about the last big release for u personally in the last 2 years from either producer. Can u feel the same vibe and sounds lurking in and around there new productions? Be honest.

ok, first off, Mr project is a killer producer!!! he's priduced some sick tracks since i've been listening to hard trance!!! starting with overdrive...the only thing i don't like about what he's been producing, and basically it all started with that blue track that was almost hardstlye...can't remember the name, but from there it kind of went downhill for me...he never played out the full melody, and got too stuck into the whole middle section. ie in rock where the piano is playing all those fills...

but none the less, as wierd as his tracks have been getting, i still can't ge tenough of them...and as many of his tracks as i can get my hands on are in the box... ;)

Paul Nisbet
11-07-2004, 11:52 AM
Little review by myself,

imo a good tune. I like the overall vibe and sounds in this tune. Its scot project after all... But guys. U know im a big fan of him. Even tho the production (imo) is UNREAL. I cant help think he is struggling for ideas to take things forward. For ur standard fan of hard dance, then u probs wont notice?

But has it got to the point that even wat some mite say is one of the kings of hard trance, has become scared to stray from his sound too far (even at that, wat says he has to). He seems to be taking one step at a time with subtle changed here and there.

But as im a fan of him, and still cain his work... i still cant help think that there is nothing in this tune that has blown me away (and still in all honesty, not many peeps can even touch him, and that is wat worries me!!!). He used to make tunes dark and uplifting. Why not now? When was the last time u heard a filthy tune from scot proj?

What is goin on with that hard trance scene? When kings of the scene Scot project and Uberdruck (imo, no matter wat anyone says) are in all honesty struggling? Think about the last big release for u personally in the last 2 years from either producer. Can u feel the same vibe and sounds lurking in and around there new productions? Be honest.

ok, first off, Mr project is a killer producer!!! he's priduced some sick tracks since i've been listening to hard trance!!!

but none the less, as wierd as his tracks have been getting, i still can't ge tenough of them...and as many of his tracks as i can get my hands on are in the box... ;)

Yeah i guess your right mate, hes made a few hard trance tracks, thats for sure. lol

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