Everyone Has Gone Digital?!

So i'm speaking with a friend of mine at SOG Research (a major booking agent for a number of techno acts | www.sogresearch.com) and he was telling me that he wa speaking with Mike Huckaby (one of the artists on his roster) and was saying how bizarre it was in Miami that almost everyone was using CDs/Laptops. Huck stated quite literally that almost everyone was swapping hard drives and CDs and hardly anyone was handing out vinyl. He went on to state that almost everyone that dj'd in one form or another, used a laptop or CDs. The only people that used vinyl were huck and well, Jeff Mills.

Please some refute this! This is entirely depressing...Was anyone there that can deny this claim?

For some reason the link doesn't work because of the end parentheses:

www.sogresearch.com

does it matter? check the post from Acidtrash, its basically exactly the same subject matter!!!!

i.e vinyl vs CD

sorry if that looked a bit arsy actually haha "Does it matter" but honestly, i dont care if people swapped cds', records or sexually transmitted diseases in miami!

why is it depressing?

I respect and enjoy when joe raises his voice man so i appreciate whatever debate or comments he has regardless if anyone else priorly stated

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Originally Posted by Joseph Isaac

This is entirely depressing...Was anyone there that can deny this claim?

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you are depressing.

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Originally Posted by slobodan

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Originally Posted by Joseph Isaac

This is entirely depressing...Was anyone there that can deny this claim?

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you are depressing.

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Actually, I'm all for digital uses...I'm an Ableton junkie myself. My point was that hardly any vinyl is being handed and/or used...That is what to me is a bit depressing (viz. are industry insiders the only ones able to share new music at a "music conference")? I was not there so i really am looking for someone who maybe was there and can deny this is the case.

vinyl is an outmoded, outdated, inefficient, inconvenient, crap sounding, heavy, expensive, pain in the ass waste of time format. has been for 15 years.

but until recently it was the format directly connected to the only tools we had to use. and it was standardized. i.e. if you went somewhere to dj you didn't have to worry about whether or not your records were going to work. it was also most cost-effective and transportable solution AT THE TIME.

but even if you don't like the idea of laptop djing and still have an attachment to manual beatmatching, the days of the vinyl medium, on the whole, are over. thank god.

(and no, my thousands of records are not for sale ;))

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Originally Posted by slobodan

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Originally Posted by Joseph Isaac

This is entirely depressing...Was anyone there that can deny this claim?

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you are depressing.

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bye bye

not one good thing has ever been written by you

careful listening to what people say.

people see what they want to see.

i didnt see a single laptop on a stage this year.

in fact. Marco Carola (who used a laptop last year and it crashed on him), was using vinyl this year with adam beyer.

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Originally Posted by Joseph Isaac

So i'm speaking with a friend of mine at SOG Research (a major booking agent for a number of techno acts | www.sogresearch.com) and he was telling me that he wa speaking with Mike Huckaby (one of the artists on his roster) and was saying how bizarre it was in Miami that almost everyone was using CDs/Laptops. Huck stated quite literally that almost everyone was swapping hard drives and CDs and hardly anyone was handing out vinyl. He went on to state that almost everyone that dj'd in one form or another, used a laptop or CDs. The only people that used vinyl were huck and well, Jeff Mills.

Please some refute this! This is entirely depressing...Was anyone there that can deny this claim?

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Are you sure he's speakin of the techno guys?
I have a feeling that IF this is true.... that it was more in the tech-house, minimal, and house department.... I could be wrong...

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Originally Posted by Internal Error Records

careful listening to what people say.

people see what they want to see.

i didnt see a single laptop on a stage this year.

in fact. Marco Carola (who used a laptop last year and it crashed on him), was using vinyl this year with adam beyer.

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Thanks, this is what i was looking for. Cheers...

The day you can cue/ bang out some tricks with a cd (Sold, not copied) track as quickly as a 12", is the day I will move on, which should be now.... But I think everything else is in place for this apart from tunes selection on those Mp3 sites, I want it raw and rough....

it will happen, and label owners need to make the jump, because the whole scene is in an inbetween limbo that is doing no one any good

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

it will happen, and label owners need to make the jump, because the whole scene is in an inbetween limbo that is doing no one any good

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as a label owner i can safely say i will never make the jump until there is money in it.


no money = no mp3 or digital.

until labels can make money from digital, djing with digitial is the same as pproudly saying "yeaha i stole your tracks"

unless of course you bought the vinyl first anyways then do whatever you want.

vinyl is the medium of the techno industry.

if a distro placed a purchase order for cd's, i would fill it.

but guess what, distros dont order cds.

Not yet, but I`ve spoken to a fair few distributers and the heat is on with vinyl.
The industry as a whole needs a shake up otherwise it`ll just strangle itself

Don`t get me wrong, I love vinyl, I have stacks of the shit, but I`ve got one foot hovering over the future and I`m just waiting for more people to wake up to it and incite change.

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Originally Posted by Internal Error Records

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

it will happen, and label owners need to make the jump, because the whole scene is in an inbetween limbo that is doing no one any good

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as a label owner i can safely say i will never make the jump until there is money in it.


no money = no mp3 or digital.

until labels can make money from digital, djing with digitial is the same as pproudly saying "yeaha i stole your tracks"

unless of course you bought the vinyl first anyways then do whatever you want.

vinyl is the medium of the techno industry.

if a distro placed a purchase order for cd's, i would fill it.

but guess what, distros dont order cds.

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Cool. Stick to vinyl if it does the job for you and the artists on your label.
It won't stop anyone from copying the music to mp3 tho, it never did.

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Originally Posted by Komplex

Cool. Stick to vinyl if it does the job for you and the artists on your label.
It won't stop anyone from copying the music to mp3 tho, it never did.

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the real crazy thing is - illegal copying of mp3's doesnt hurt the vinyl industry.

a vinyl junky cant spin an mp3.

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Originally Posted by Internal Error Records

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Originally Posted by Komplex

Cool. Stick to vinyl if it does the job for you and the artists on your label.
It won't stop anyone from copying the music to mp3 tho, it never did.

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the real crazy thing is - illegal copying of mp3's doesnt hurt the vinyl industry.

a vinyl junky cant spin an mp3.

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so if vynil died and most folk copied ther stuff(which i think would happen) wed be fuked...producers would prob get even less kick back.

why buy if you can file share wav's with some other folk... i prob would get alot for free if i was mixin on cd which i know is wrong but at the end of the day id still do it.