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06-06-2005, 08:22 PM
Bionic

Breathe feat Mark EG, L.E.D, CALLY&JUICE ETC, 11/6/5 swa

Hi guys it's that special time of year again when Breathe moves to the second SATURDAY of the month to host it's own EITP after party. This is the biggest Breathe of the year every year and is not one to be missed!!!

This year we're hosting one of the launch party's for the next album in Nukleuz' biggest and best selling compilation series....

HARD HOUSE ANTHEMS 6 (with CD's mixed by LISA PIN-UP and CALLY & JUICE ) - OUT ON JUNE 13th

THE LINE UP ON THE NIGHT WILL BE (ALL 100% CONFIRMED!!!)

MARK EG
CALLY & JUICE
L.E.D.
BRIAN M
FRISKY
CHUCK-E
JO 9T & CHRISY B
BEN MILES & M.C.P.
M.C.SHOCKER

Doors open 10:00 til 04:00 (Mark's on at 11) Please arrive early to avoid disappointment. Entry fee still only £10 all night

See you there....
07-06-2005, 11:43 AM
kai

LMFAO!!!!

This may be slightly controversial, but if Cally & Juice are claiming to be a hardstyle act, then why the **** have they mixed one of the CD's for Hard House Anthems 6!!!
07-06-2005, 12:06 PM
DJTrubass

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

LMFAO!!!!

This may be slightly controversial, but if Cally & Juice are claiming to be a hardstyle act, then why the **** have they mixed one of the CD's for Hard House Anthems 6!!!

lmfao :clap: :lol: :lol:
07-06-2005, 02:31 PM
DJ Corbzy

Cos they're signed to Nukleuz??
07-06-2005, 04:07 PM
DJTrubass

do they mix hardstyle on the hardhouse anthems or hard house?
07-06-2005, 04:13 PM
kai

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

Cos they're signed to Nukleuz??

Well yeah, thats clear, but what I really mean is if Nukleuz are really genuine about pushing Cally & juice as their answer to UK hardstyle surely they should be putting out a hardstyle compilation rather than entitling it hardhouse volume 6 or whatever.

Personally, I would say that yes they are a hardstyle act, but it's very tenuous to call them one which is why they can get away with mixing CD's entitled hard house, because the hardstyle the play is the kind of bouncy, trashy hardstyle thats getting popular with the hard house crowd but making genuine fans of hard music switch off from listening to hardstyle.
07-06-2005, 04:56 PM
DJTrubass

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

Cos they're signed to Nukleuz??

Well yeah, thats clear, but what I really mean is if Nukleuz are really genuine about pushing Cally & juice as their answer to UK hardstyle surely they should be putting out a hardstyle compilation rather than entitling it hardhouse volume 6 or whatever.

Personally, I would say that yes they are a hardstyle act, but it's very tenuous to call them one which is why they can get away with mixing CD's entitled hard house, because the hardstyle the play is the kind of bouncy, trashy hardstyle thats getting popular with the hard house crowd but making genuine fans of hard music switch off from listening to hardstyle.

couldent really put it better myself
07-06-2005, 05:34 PM
DJ Corbzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

Cos they're signed to Nukleuz??

Well yeah, thats clear, but what I really mean is if Nukleuz are really genuine about pushing Cally & juice as their answer to UK hardstyle surely they should be putting out a hardstyle compilation rather than entitling it hardhouse volume 6 or whatever.

Personally, I would say that yes they are a hardstyle act, but it's very tenuous to call them one which is why they can get away with mixing CD's entitled hard house, because the hardstyle the play is the kind of bouncy, trashy hardstyle thats getting popular with the hard house crowd but making genuine fans of hard music switch off from listening to hardstyle.

You pretty much answered your own question there buddy...
08-06-2005, 09:36 AM
kai

True, but I'm more interested in hearing somebody trying to defend Cally & Juice on this subject, as they must have an argument to come back with. I already know what my opinion is of this, but surely their must be a counter-argument, or their claims to be representing UK hardstyle are pretty weak really.

Well, I would hope they do anyway.....
08-06-2005, 02:10 PM
Dean-E

Ok now......Juice and Cally have been good friends of mine for years and if it wasnt for them i wouldnt be mc'ing as got my 1st residency mc'ing for them in swansea.

what you all have to understand is that they are HARD DANCE dj's they dont play just one style ok they can be cheesy but you cant take it away from them they are entertaining. Bionic and Breathe are always rammed and the crowds love them.

I dont like hardhouse but as i said they are HARD DANCE dj's so hard house can fall into that genre as can hardtrance hardstyle etc.

these are two guys that work hard at what they do and why people slate them so much i dont understand, if you dont like them there is no need to question what they do as your not interested in what they are doing
08-06-2005, 02:40 PM
kai

To be honest, my personal opinion on this is that they are a hard trance act more than anything. OK, they do drop the occasional 'hardstyle' tune, but even then it's very much on the hard trance end of the hardstyle spectrum.

What annoys me, and tbh it's not really their fault, and has more to do with Nukleuz's publicity machine latching onto a name they believe is becoming a cool tag, is that they are regularly publicised as a hardstyle act, and to me that is just giving hardstyle a bad name and leading to the misconception that hardstyle is basically just a new tag for hard trance.

This runs right up to the level of other promoters I have spoken to, mentioning no names, who talk about booking the pair to play at their hardstyle nights as a headliner. Sorry, but thats just bollocks, as I say their a hard trance act more than anything imo, and headlining hardstyle nights, putting tunes out on Nukleuz that are blatant attempts at hardstyle etc, to me is a major cause of people misconstrueing what hardstyle is and for me is a barrier to many people taking an interest in hardstyle i.e. they believe it is purely hard trance by another name.

That is my experience from talking to people on the scene anyway. I have lost count of the number of people (mainly in the techno and hardcore scenes) who have told me hardstyle is shit, and its just trancey bollocks, for me to sit there trying to tell them other wise, but when all they have heard is the likes of Cally & Juice and Yoji Biomehanika then it is always going to be an uphill struggle.

Fair enough this is offset by the fact this end of the hardstyle spectrum appeals to the massive hard house and hard trance market, but getting this crowd interested in the music to me is only worthwhile if it doesn't involve devaluing the music for those who are already into the sound.

If, as you say, they themselves regard themselves as a hard dance act more than anything, then they should stop producing tracks with names like 'UK Hardstyle' that further this misconception, and Bionic should stop promoting themselves as the UK's biggest hardstyle night, and arguing that Cally & Juice are a hardstyle act when they are pulled up on the subject of the distinct lack of hardstyle on the line-up.

Saying that, to be fair, it's not so much Bionic saying this as the masses of their fans on other forums who come out with such bollocks.
08-06-2005, 02:59 PM
Dean-E

nice to hear someone have something consructive to say about them for a change :cool:
15-06-2005, 12:50 PM
CHUCK-E

Its just a name, the track listing is awesome hard trance doods...
with som
e of there hardstyle that have been anthems in wales
16-06-2005, 12:46 AM
DJ Corbzy

I used to be the same and slate them on forums...

At the end of the day they do their thing and we do ours....

As the beatles said - Let it be.