Why hardstyle?

Forget my posts in the 'LABELS' thread and lets start afresh, I'm completely up for hearing your views and aspects on these questions I have for you...based on things I would like to know about your love for hardstyle.

1) In what ways do you feel that Hardstyle is intelligent as you say in other threads?

2) What aspects of a hardstyle tune do you look for that makes you want to buy that record?

3) Is there any progression in a Hardstyle set? Are there lighter forms of Hardstyle?

4) What producers do you feel are innovating the scene?

5) Continued from no.4 ....Why?

Sorry for all the repeated unconstructive posting for my dislike to Hardstyle, I hope you can all find it in your hearts to bury the matter and forgive this ignorant twat...

Thanks all

Corbzy

Corbz.. I really think you need to calm down a sec and be +ve in general based on your other threads. But hey, this is a wicked topic and one that you have to open your mind to any answers. I've asked this q to many genre's in my life and in the end, it's opened my mind up to major things. A +ve thing me thinks.

yay! i did something right for once! :shock: :D

1) In what ways do you feel that Hardstyle is intelligent as you say in other threads?

I never said hardstyle was intelligent. Anyone who does is missing the point of new music (???). It's not that it's 'intelligent', it's that it's fresh, exciting and going somewhere. The problem is I think, that certain hardstyle producers stick with a formula. That needs to go, to stop hardstyle becoming the new hard house. But there are certain track that really are pushing boundaries. Zero 'Overdrive' is the biggest example of this in my book.

2) What aspects of a hardstyle tune do you look for that makes you want to buy that record?

Production and something that takes the genre forward. If it's like a track I've heard before, I don't want to know. If it's got a really cheesy sound or feel in it to obviously make shit loads of cash from the beer boy generation, then I don't want to know. This is happening more and more with hardstyle but again, you have to search - find the tracks that matter. The development of hardstyle is happening at the pace of perhaps early German trance or later EDM/Tunnel. It's exciting, quick and challenging and that's why I like it.

3) Is there any progression in a Hardstyle set? Are there lighter forms of Hardstyle?

For me hardstyle is the progression in a hard trance set. That is - at the moment. But what excites me about this genre is it is so new and we're all still looking at a way to tell a story with it. 'Overdrive' was a landmark track for me here. It was sooooo left of centre. I need more tracks like this and it's the odd tracks like this that is keeping me on the edge of hardstyle. i can't wait to see where this genre goes.

4) What producers do you feel are innovating the scene?

I've already mentioned. The italians created but the dutch are the ones who are going to take hardstyle forward.

Is that Overdrive the one that is all stuttered and has the vocals "Overdrive, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, once again"....

If it is, it sure woke me up when I was raving at the beehive once...lol

yup... what are everyone else's thoughts?

i was sort of left sitting at the traffic lights with this one. ive been buying trance and techno records/cds for a good 5+ years now.

in the last couple of months befoer hardstyle poked its head up i noticed a lot of the hard trance being released had a certain sound, it was hard trance but ther was something differnt to it, it was.....harder :twisted:

however a found a lot of it to be not very good and the sound i was into before it arrivred becoming less accesible, i had gone from spending between 60-120 quid a week on records to 0-40.

then the word hardstyle was floating about everywer i looked, whats this? i wonderd.

then, (and this is the main cause for my ignorance to hardstyle for a short while) a wealth of crap was released under the genre of hardstyle (dont get me wrong there was some tracks i though were pretty damn good) but i think i was unfortunite to encounter a lot of the bad ones.

a lot of it sounded the same, "oh god its the next hardhouse" i thought.

for the next couple of months i ignored it, if the word hardstyle apeard i skipped it as in my mind i had heard what the genre was about and didnt like it.

it wasnt untill recently that i decided i was probobly being too harsh as there isnt a great deal of music i dont like in one way or another, and as this had eminated from the scene i was devoted too me dissmissing it was a little closed minded.

so i removed my temporary blinkers and decided to find out what real hardstyle is.

and im glad i did, with the help of some people who had been following the progress of this genre i was pointed to some bloody excellent tracks,

i mean i know good tracks when i hear them but some of the stuff i found left me generaly impressed.

i am very interested to hear new releases and what this sound might lead to.

right corbz top man no offence for one you a hardtrance nothing else kinda guy
fair play but you cant go slagging off music you dont understand
for one its like going on a breaks forum and ripping 3 colours of shit into it
hardstyle has its good point one its fresh many people say its crap cause
it uses the gabba kik but look deep and you find the real gems mate heres a list of what i thinks freshand will destroy the dancefloor top prodcution here good for when hardtrance aint hardenough in your set

1) ultronik sensational --> this is my all best hardstyle tune quality production amazing base no gabba kik drum involved heavy dark with an awsome riff over the top makes you wanna wank on a loud system

2)ireiv 0bob 32 masters of hardstyle label droped a bomb grinding dirty sounds tech influenced again no gabba shit drum involved amazing tune will destroy the dancefloor mate

3]smashing guys ep - pump the sound--> probally the best use of the gabba shit drum catchy twisted kikdrum with an amazing riff cant fault it at all will make craters in the dancefloor

4] avex zentith ithink --> screamer even now is fcukin best hardstyle dirty with an amzing revez bass cool shit here mate

5]lorenzo de preti --> any of his tunes show how good hardstyle can be tech/dirtyacid/hardtrance influenced tunes again breaks up uplifting sets for the headz on the dance floor


6} zatox ep---> well produced hardstyle all the way kinda milked now but still shit hot :)

7] hardboostok the beginning -- love this tune heavy bass dark sounds cant fault this at all mate again top production

8] kat -kaos ohh my god just hear the bass on a system even if oyur a trance riff man the power of this is like releasing a scud missile pounding heads all round

could go on and with the top finds like this you can not say there crap ai agree you gotta travel through hundreds of shit records but look hard and there some class finds anyways top man corbz thanks for the graphics imput :)

Zerovision- Overdrive is just out and out fun!!!

I bought it, I like the beginning bit but that melody at the end just doesn't do it for me. But saying that its the tunes I don't like at first that grow on me eventually, also I havn't aired it in a club yet.

Regarding hardstyle, I was buying it before I knew it was hardstyle, I just thought it was really hard hard trance and it was going at the end of my hard trance sets.

Because of my love of trance I always tend to buy more of the melodic stuff with the ripping evil riffs.

Of course there's progression in a hardstyle set, the music just gets harder the same with any hard set. More percussion, bass, darker melodies, more going on in the record.

yeah, man the dutch stuff is much better imo.

German hardstyle= more trancy with hardstlye kicks
Italian Hardstyle= going realy hard ie.. gabber, some of it is a bit repetitive aswell.
Dutch hardstyle= spot on. nice kicks, rifts & mellody's,,, italian & german rolled into one, with there own stuff throwen in for good mesure.

1) In what ways do you feel that Hardstyle is intelligent as you say in other threads?

As with any genre, it takes intelligence to make a good tune. It takes little skill or intelligence to rip off something else. A lot of this goes on in hardstyle music, and there are many poor tracks out there, just bypass these. In the past months i've bought very few records, but all of the ones I have bought are amazing tracks.

2) What aspects of a hardstyle tune do you look for that makes you want to buy that record?

That I like it. simple as that. Expanding slightly, I like minimal bass led tracks with a dark riff.

3) Is there any progression in a Hardstyle set? Are there lighter forms of Hardstyle?

Yes to both questions - check out my last CD if you have it, theres definite progression there. It's just a little more subtle with hardstyle. There are indeed lighter forms of hardstyle, check out the Dj Isaac stuff - in fact a lot of the dutch stuff is light and fun based.

4) What producers do you feel are innovating the scene?

Gius, Tronik, Lorenzo De Preti, the Brain Ovulation and 59 records guys.

5) Continued from no.4 ....Why?

Because they change their formula on each track - they're not too scared to try something different to push the scene forward. I dislike other producers who stick with a formula that has worked on one track and just repeat it in each tune.

Hope that helps man - but remember, no-ones saying you must like hardstyle because we do, you can hate it all you want, just don't press your opinion too much.

For me, (being the simpleton that I am), the attraction to Hardstyle is that it is summin new, and is hard as fcuk.

But, alas, Sincs/Koalin, is just a bass junky at heart :wink:

Mark eg do u like the seismic label? cause in the way u'll talk about overdrive i get a taste u do?? I hope so cause i like it a lot ( i have all the tracks) cause i don't like the italian hardstyle a lot it doesn't have the melodys to put me in a higher atmospher :roll: i like the drum and bass of italian hardstyle but if u choose the right dutchhardstyle u will find them also