ableton tutorials?

anybody know where i can find a decent tutorial for producing with ableton for a complete beginner?

i can't seem to find anything decent online and the manuals not being that helpful tbh

thanks in advance

Good few videos here :)

http://www.audioforce.net/component/...,59/Itemid,56/

have managed to check some out and some major pennies have dropped - cheers :)

those 'ask' tutorials are excellent for beginners :)

yeh, there was just one bit in one of them that changed the way i looked at something and everything fell into place - dead handy