Sorry for being stupid, but can someone define hardstyle for me? I got the impression it's kind of like gabber, but with a trance edge - is that anything like correct????
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Sorry for being stupid, but can someone define hardstyle for me? I got the impression it's kind of like gabber, but with a trance edge - is that anything like correct????
have a search mate, there's a few threads with varying thoughts of what hardstyle is....
to me, my preferred style of hardstyle (yes, hardstyle has different styles) is a raking reverse off beat bassline (from german/itlian hard trance), a deep heavy distored kick drum (dutch hardcore/gabba) and interesting screehy synths with wicked snare rolls..
the dutch have their own style, the itlians as well and the germans' is slightly different again...no one in the UK makes decent hardstyle yet, but i know there is some talent coming through and i suspect that will also have it's own distinctive sound, prob combining the best bits from the other countries :lol:
I think it would be wise for someone to write a 'Hardstyle defined' post and stick it at the top of this forum as this question seems to get asked over and over!
good hardstlye, bad mixing, check my sig. haha.
Like Discogs?
Cool :cool:
To me it's the fusion of hard trance, old skool hardcore, hard house, techno, gabba into one hard style.
Here's what Mark said......
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MARK EG
Site Admin
Posted: 11 Dec 2002 18:35 Post subject: Hardstyle (Mixmag)
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Right guys, Mixmag are on the case with Hardstyle. They interviewed Tobe & Ginge @ Cypher, Uberdruck and myself. Dunno if it's a good thing.. but I'd rather be there putting my 2 cents in than not be. I just hope they don't hype it into something it's not.
Here's what I gave him. Please let me know your thoughts....
'Hard Style, to me, is a reaction against commercialism within the hard underground music community. As well as focusing on driving techno, myself and M-Zone were two of the first DJ's to play German hard trance in the early 90's, often at the happy-hardcore based raves such as Helter Skelter. But recently, much of the German sound has become so formulated, with artists such as Scot Project churning out the same track time and time again. So DJ's such as M-Zone and myself have been looking somewhere else for inspiration.'
'This year, Italy has really come through as doing something very different but still at a sensible speed of 138bpm. Their sound is essentially German hard trance but minus the cheese and awful trance riffs that have become such a cliche in modern dance music. And it reaches back to the early days of Belgian techno - which is probably why it appeal to lots of differerent genres. I've been playing this sound alongside my acid techno and techno sets and others are playing it amougst the non-cheesy forms of hardcore. It's created a united resistance against all things commercial - something that we call Hardstyle.'
'European artists such as Uberdruck and Don Diablo originally put the seeds in place for the Italians. I remember thinking 'Wow, this is different from the usual German style. It was much harder and more techno influenced than ever. Although it's now mainly an Italian thing, you'll find alot of the tougher hard trance producers throughout Europe now coming out of the woodwork and focusing on taking that Italian sound even further.'
Here's the link for the rest of the story...
http://www.blackoutaudio.co.uk/phpBB...ight=hardstyle
Better yet download this mix by Ginge: GINGE Hardstyle mix HERE. This ones just a pure hardstyle mix. Got hard trance/hardstyle mix in my signature ta boot. Listen while ya read :dance:
fantastic definition.
*claps*
I didn't read the rest of the story but what mark eg has forgotten is the infuences of dutch hardstyle, i won't say it's the best u can get but dutch hardstyle is a style on his own like the labels seismic hardbass, fusion and q-dance, second the partyscene of hardstyle is the biggest in holland whit the largest partys and thirt we've some damn good hardstyle dj's around here ;)
Wow thats the first time I've read Marks comments on Hardstyle and they are pretty much bang on in my opinon too! :clap:
The only thing I don't agree on 100% is the that Hardstyle is a reaction against commercialism although I wish it was.
I agree that in this country there has been a massive reaction against commercialism for sometime now with music styles like Techno, Hardstyle, Hard European Trance getting a mass of interest. This obviously effects the DJ's who are playing and have been playing this sound.
Clubbers now are demanding good tunes played by good DJ's and no matter how big your line of your DJ rep this is by no way a gaurantee.
But as Hardstyle is a European sound, mainly Italian, can you honestly say that it was born over there as a reaction against commercailism!?!
In my opinion I would say no. In Italy the Hard Dance scene is only evident in the North and even then I don't feel its commercial enough to create a reaction!
So how and why was Hardstyle born?
I feel it was a fusion of influence, timimg, curiosity and above all luck. Proberly just like most music styles.
I would love peoples comments and views on this (nicely please).
Tim
Not sure I agree with that either!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Hidgem
In Italy + Holland Hardstyle IS commercial is it not?
The volume of releases and the attendances at parties over there prove this, so how can Hardstyle be a reaction against commercialism??
Maybe in this country yeah, but what is termed 'Underground' by us is completley different over there.
I dunno, just my opinion of course but I do think there is a lot of arguments for and against this statement, but my head is being fried with Java programming and Im to lazy to get into them!
hard stlye rocks.... but i cant see it lasting much longer.. :(
I'm gonna try to write an introduction to hardstyle and a history of hardstyle that can be left as a sticky topic sometime this weekend. I'll post a draft of it first so people can correct any mistakes.
No promises on it being done this weekend but i'll try my best.
Gonna be tricky cos we all have different views.
Need to make something that encompasses all our views. Any ideas?
Maybe a Hardstyle login that we all have access to. Could be a stupid idea but...
who cares what each persons individual definition of it is!!!!
I like to Acid Techno, Hard Techno, hard trance together with my hardstyle. it's all hard dance music!
Play it how ya want, with whatever ya want.... it does'nt matter, just make 'em dance.
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Originally Posted by Bacchus
I agree!!! :clap:
Erm, i'm not quite sure how my comment got misconstrued as something negative? I was going to do it to help newcomers understand not to prove superior knowledge or something. If the attitude is 'who cares', then maybe I won't bother.
Tobe, I know it'd be hard m8, that's why i'll put a draft up if I do it. I'm gonna encompass everyones ideas and try to combine them all if I do it.
my appologies if my "who cares" offended ya man. It's just that there's so many different definitions because of the various influences that incorporate hardstyle (different regions, some more closer to trance, and some closer to pitched down hardcore) makes it difficult for an exact definitionQuote:
Originally Posted by Voorheez
Hardstyle it will go commercial, but because we all have differend opinions about hardstyle maybe that will save hardstyle to go commercial ( i know not completly ) but if u have a style where u can't put a discription on, u can't say that's commercial cause there is no discription on it that will say: if u produce the track like this it will be commercial or if u produce the track like this it will be underground, no i believe that hardstyle don't need a discription. sometimes we have the same opinion about a track which is very bad produced or is very cheesy, but still it isn't commercial yet :neutral: