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and i have to say, its got to be one of the most baoringest sets i've heard in my life
it just goes no where. the mixing is baoring. the tunes are ok but sound really bland they way how his played them
not impressed by it at all
did really want to see the guy live but if this is his typical set, then i'm not sure i would enjoy it
the 2nd half is somewhat better. theres actually some kinda of groove going on now :lol:
but with only 17mins left in the mix :doh:
surely he cant play THIS down tempo in clubs?
i like listening to his mixes but im not sure i would be wanting to hear it in a club though.
The man has done a huge ammount for techno though, i got into it by listening to plastikman tracks and f.u.s.e : substance abuse of course, artefakts b.c is still one of my all time favourite albums
Is that closer to the redit mix your on about?? I actually really like it, it's not too hard, very minimal but excellent imo. As mentioned, plastikman fuse etc the man's a top producer/dj. Each to their own though.
thats one of my fav techno mix cds ever! dont no if i would want to listen 2 it in a clubs its really minamal and slow but its an absoulty beautfull mixQuote:
Is that closer to the redit mix your on about
every mix ive heard by hawtin is sloppy as fuk mixing...defo cant undertsand why hes rated so highly as a dj......even i can do alot better.Quote:
Originally Posted by MangaFish
heard a few that have good decent techno but the lack of djind skills puts me off.
if the mix you listened to is boring you try - hawtin live in barcelona...bit better....thers also a not bad 2hr long mix Richie Hawtin & John Acquiviva ...think its barcelona aswell.....live mix.
Production wise i like some of his stuff but others bore me.....well made tho but dont do nuthing for me....each to ther own tho.
tis quality indeed. Subtle techno. Also i have not heard Richie mix badly as some folk seem to have on this thread. Boring? that's a matter of opinion but all mixes I have heard by him are faultless eg Mixmag, Dex efx 909 etc. And hearing him play out and live on radio he was tight as.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirm
Perhaps I have just missed some of his bad moments??? but i feel he's getting a raw deal here by saying he can't mix. Not having a dig at anyone just seems strange to me that he is seen as a technically bad dj.
i agree DE9 & Dex efx 909 are both wicked mix cd's, DE9 sounds like dub to me,Quote:
Originally Posted by T
and when i saw him on the de9 tour at the orbit he absolutely rocked!
it was tight, hard, well off the wall, but danceable, if it had been boring the crowd at orbit would have let him know about it!
deks fx and 909 ----do you think that was was done live(and i dont mean live in a club)....i think not...studio mix using shit like 4 tracks etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by maily
Its pretty good for what it is but its not a good show of djing skills.
All the hawtin live mixes i've heard and when i've seen him his mixing has always been silky smooth, never heard one record go out of time. Not saying that neccessarily makes him a fantastic dj but i don't think you can call his mixing sloppy.
I think what type of set he plays depends on what type of night he's booked at eg. he is more likely to play a more up-tempo set at something like I Love Techno etc.
Just because it's not 145bpm over-compressed banging techno does not mean it's boring. ;)
which ones....ive got some that are shocking......one or two alright ones aswell tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhys
Because it's a flat line with no sense of programming or intent to do anything interesting. ;) My how the once powerful have fallen so hard, yet everyone says the emperor is still wearing clothes. I'll hand Ritchie, the tosser, a bathrobe in the meantime.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefano1981
He's no Magda. Lol.
Yer either like minimal techno or you divn't. He's alot more concept than he used to be in the days of Fuse and Sheet One. The best mix I have is MixMag's release from mid-1990s.Quote:
Originally Posted by MangaFish
If you ever have the chance to see him - go! he is one of the most talented and original producers in the world - you've just got to be open to what he's doing.
Shame on you. You obviously don't know very much about music - that's all I can say to you Mr DSPQuote:
Originally Posted by DSP
I also find it hard to beleive that people could say he's a sloppy DJ. Fair enough if you don't like his style, but I have seen him loads of times, and heard him the radio loads more, and I have never heard a dodgy mix, never heard even one record go out of time. I will say that not every set I have heard from him has been exciting, but if nothing else, he's always been a smooth operator.
As for the business about Dex Efx 909 not being live, well, I reckon it was. I would take ritchies word for it as I have a lot of respect for him, but on top of that, I heard him on the tour he did for it, and while the tracks may have been different, the obscenely fast and smooth way in which he ripped them and the dancefloor to shreds was exactly the same.
hawtin has paid nuff dues.
period, I dont have an opinion at all because
I have not achieved what he has in his time.
When I have done decks efx and 909 I'll talk shit.
Now I respect what the man has done. Does'nt mean I like it.
yeah i'm pretty f**in certain that it was a live mix too :eh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Francisco Scaramanga
Decks, Efx & 909 was recorded in a one live pass and then edited. The original mix was about twice as long as what you hear on the cd. it obviously contains things that are humanly impossible -- and that's the point. he's never put out a 'standard' mix cd and he never will. Sound Of The Third Season comes close, but it's clear the intent of that cd was to capture the mood, the moment in time.. which i think it did very well. And actually all the djing on Third Season is Sven; rich did all the editing afterward, insertion of the real-life recordings, etc.
DE9:Closer To The Edit was obviously all done in a computer (after recording the loops from vinyl).
The Mixmag cd ('95) was also a custom edit deal... back when no one ever did that for mix cds. he was even experimenting with a series of mixers linked together to dj with back then cuz dj mixers were so lo-fi in terms of effects sends, options, etc..
The sloppy comment is hilarious. Rich is one of the world's best djs, regardless of whether you like what he's playing or not. if the original post in this thread was in reference to his March '04 Maida Vale Peel set, yeah, that, like other Radio 1 things he has done, was much more minimal. it's a damn radio show afterall. but after seeing him dozens of times i'm quite certain he can play mega-banging, minimal bleep bloop, house, and everything in between like very few people can. he is responsible for most of the hardest music nights of my life and also for making my jaw drop at how he can make minimal music really work in a club full of nutters... and then sneak in a vocal house track just to take the piss. and don't get me started on the live pa's.
funny thing about the amount of minimal perlon-y stuff he's playing now: 3 years ago or so when he doing so much DE9 touring you'd hear a lot of people complain about how he was playing too hard.
i grew up seeing the guy, going to all the plus 8 parties. it's cool if you don't like him, taste is taste. but sloppy? um, no.