With the sign of the times being diversity,
Who do you feel is able to pull off most aspects of techno and properly,
I.e. Hard, Tribal, Intelligente, Detroit-Ish........
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With the sign of the times being diversity,
Who do you feel is able to pull off most aspects of techno and properly,
I.e. Hard, Tribal, Intelligente, Detroit-Ish........
i've been finding that paul mac works with a pretty wide variety of styles with success.
Adam Beyer
Marco Passarani
Jeff Mills
Joey Beltram
Diego Hostetler
names that instantly pop to mind are adam beyer and our evry own dirt bass
Berkovi !
ahh yeah, true that jim, steve can throw down too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfish
dave the drummer & patrick skoog!
adam beyer
paul mac
cari lekebusch
ian o'brien
:clap: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcollective
A few that haven't been mentioned:
Sterac
Chris McCormack
Jesper Dahlback
Mark Broom (when he feels like it).
Paul Mac certainly fits the bill as put forward by you in the initial post Antonio.
Anyway, **** diversity within techno for a minute - Aphex, Jamie Lidell, Subhead, Cristian Vogel... they are all truly diverse and daring. I think more people could take a leaf out of their book.
Paul Mac
Cari Lekebusch
Joel Mull
We're talking about writing music here yeah?
huh??? that's jokes.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcollective
Justin Berkovi
Inigo Kennedy
Producers doin it for me at the moment are
Damon Wild :love:
Inigo Kennedy
Shed!!
Elektrabel
errrrrrm theres some good shit amongst the shit, cant think
sorry but i can't get over how dumb this topic is.. it's techno for ffs.
multi faceted... if i stretch my imagination and this is after like 10 minutes of sincerely thinking about it and having inner turmoil with the fact that techno is realistically just techno and not a bunch of subgenres that make it sound more diverse than it is...
i'd say carl craig, cj bolland and richie hawtin, joey beltram and jeff mills and that's by a stretch like i said..
as usual i am with sunil.. people with diversity don't only make techno they make everything that comes fancy to them.
Marco Carola... from smooth Napoli to sort-of-minimal ;)
Pacou
she has tasteQuote:
Originally Posted by miss bass
:lol:
oh come on adverse, you know what antonio means.. a lot of techno producers have that one sound that they stcik to and only ever do. What this thread is about is those that have a bash at different sounds within techno.
I think we all know that techno is not diverse in terms of music as a whole, and as you say, techno is just techno. So this thread is exploring those producers who do think techno is just techno, and not a bunch of subgenres.. i thought thats what you would want?
please define different sounds within techno.
actually i know what your trying to say.. and it's still trite sorry.
being multi faceted within one sphere is just not possible it's contradiction.
damn i could go for a good patrick dsp analogy right now.
anyways..
dont be so anal man
aphex twin.
chemical bros
and i know they aint yer normal "Techno" bods but to me techno is music made with technology and they seems to be making diverse sounding shit.
most "techno" bods i know usually stick with a similar sound
cari lekebush is one that ive found that does branch right out on ocasions....his jamacan beats ep(cant remeber what its called) - its got a rasta themed sticker......think it had dub somewher in the title..
also heard the odd bit good electro/techno crossover shit form him too, as well as banging techno..
Cari is :rambo: :clap: :twisted: :cool:
i see both your points, but i think that many producers basically re-release the same record over and over. or, more charitably, they develop a sound and don't deviate from it. that's good if you like that sound, but i'm more interested in things that keep the overall spirit and form of techno, but play with it and try to do it in new and exciting ways, and aren't afraid to release a record outside of their comfort zone. that's rare, but great when you find it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Adverse
i think that's what antonio and jimfish are talking about...techno as techno, subgenres be damned!
verse is just being negative for the sake of being negative, AGAIN. i think it is important to stay diverse, i make dark tracks, club tracks, minimal tracks, banging tracks, soulful stuff, jazz, hip hop, MAN if i had to make one style for the rest of my life i would shoot myself.
like you know thing one.Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
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Yeah, that`s the whole point here.
A lot of techno producers just make the same sound, over and over again.
Particularly a lot of the new kids, who are just emulating their heroes.
I try to approach music without any labels at all. I call everything I make techno, because for me, techno is progressive electronic music.
Breaks, Dark, Housey stuff, industrial stuff, commercial and trancey, whatever.
How can anyone stick to the same sound, and the same format again and again and again, I just don`t get it.
It is a small genre if you are just making and sticking to one tiny niche within it, but for me it is a music with no boundary.
Producers in techno who are diverse for me would be.
Underworld
and erm.
Innigo Kennedy
Marco Corola
even Marco Bailey tries new stuff.
Samuel L Sessions
erm other than that I can`t think of any, that`s not to say there aren`t that many.
I'm glad someone understood my point.
Mark, don't you have a poetry reading to go to? :lol:
You know exactly what I mean. But yeah you are the yang to my ying Adverse.
Johannes Heil
good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by schlongfingers
I would have to go with a few of my favorites...
jesper dahlbeck (aka dj lenk, air frog, dk, hugg & pepp, the list goes on)
adam beyer
marco carola
cisco ferreira (aka the advent, mr.g, gflame, subjective, innersound, soul destroyaz)
Have to say, yet again, Youngman is my tip for the top with diversity at the moment... Great techno and electro trax under his own name, great electronica with his "Audible" project and another new project which is under wraps at the moment.. is also pretty hot on the mike, coming from NYC obviously helping matters... Keep an eye out for a new remix he has coming on the next scandinavia, ok, it's definitely not one for the 4/4 troopers, but musically, it's really accomplished...
The point is, it takes a lot more skill to put together a track with varied instrumentation, vocals and true melodies than to put together a 1 bar techno loop, and I wouldn't consider a producer who just makes a few different styles of techno as really that diverse IMO....
it all depends what you want, records that are nice and easy to mix and sound "Pumping" on a big rig, or something that really is musically different...
any audio clip for me to check?Quote:
Originally Posted by crime
Rationnally talking paul mac has been the most diverse releasing stuff on label ranging from ongaku to warmp & coda, going through the "prime" styled labels.
Marco Carola (with his domino poject, but also on his earlier question b sides) is doing pretty well his minimal reconversion, though keeping stuck in the same formula once it works.
Beyer has done less than 5 records not sounding swedish compressed techno so i dont really take him as an example.
Beltram is quite varied though an obvious lack of taste hmmhmh Lets quote Luke Slater in the same feeling.
Except these people and a few other mantionned in this thread (Mills, Dahlback...) it is true techno producers stay in their own sound, but as a young producer, i think this is the hardest part to achieve : "make your tracks sound in a way everybody can identify its you who are producing it".
Whatever, as Adverse says, we all make techno.
To me, diversity is really more important in a dj set. A producer has to make his records coherent, create his "own sound" and is also limited with the gear he uses to produce. But a DJ only has his ears to chose what he can play, and in the amount of records he gets/buys he can try not to select the same style again and again.
i think adam beyer now mainly because of records like ignition key and older ones like conceiled project pattern 1-4. otherwise, point taken. back in the late 1990s i thought he was the most formulaic of the big swedish producers...
Paul Mac
Dirty Bass
Audio Injection
Oliver Ho
definately johannes heil is the top of the list for me, maybe also berkovi, shufflemaster, and speedy j (if take into account his whole career and not just the last 5 releases which are all pretty similar)
machina
i guess surgeon's pretty multi-faceted within a pretty distinct sound (how's that for a contradiction!) - but i'm sure at least some of you know what i mean...
machina
oh yeah... eric prydz ;)
Yeah if you listen to the Hackers last album, that would give you something diverse. From minimal electro to good modern new romantic electro to rave techno to vocal heavy techno to weird experimental electro at the end. Thats diverse. So is the rest of the albums that came out of the goodlife catalog. I would say Youngsters can do diverse as well. I say most of the French camp have done lot of different things. You only have to check the Fanfare Ep on how you make great innovative diverse tracks.
MICHAEL JACKSON
from dead alive in "thriller" to little boys screamin in his bed
no, the little boys are totally derivative...he was doing that same kind of stuff 10 years ago ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tioneb
Speedy J
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Adverse
i finaly strated reading this thread.
lol
That's completely wrong. Hacker's album is not diverse, and I wouldn't class the Goodlife or associated producers, in general, to be diverse.. They're good, yes.. diverse? not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by OriginalTechnobastard
Also, the title track off "Fanfares" is basically Capricorn "20 hz" and Plastikman "Spastik" spliced together.. nothing innovative or diverse about it.
Have you checked out Hacker's 1st album by the way? That's a killer, probably a lot of the reason why I was dissapointed with the new one.
Ok but I am talking about the Ep as in whole. Three tracks and they all sound very different than each other. Don't you agree? Woo doesn't sound anything like Candy and Candy doesn't sound anything like Fanfare!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunil
No I don't think I am wrong about Hacker's album. Here is my analysis of Hacker's album:
First track is heavy techno influenced vocal track
Third is more of his electro stuff with Miss Kittin
Fourth (I can't remember every single track and I'm listenning to Ferox live right now) is dark techno
5 Track is minimalist electro Snowflakes
6 Track is new romantic but futuristic track with Mt Sims
I think track 7 is electro-techno
Track 8 and 9 Rave theme techno
Track 10 is more experimental electro
There is 10 tracks and about 5 or 6 different styles, that to me is pretty diverse. I think Hacker's first album was the same(released in Goodlife)
There he tackled Techno, Detroit Techno, Hawtin style techno and electro-techno, even New Order!
I've think if you look at Kiko and Oxia they have their obvious styles (Italo-electro or techno in some cases, and Detroit Techno). Yes there might be a theme but there is still lot of diversity in those albums.
I seriously think you should give Hacker's album more of listen. It might not be your cup of tea, but its a very, very good album. If you look at his what fifty or so releases, you would see he has a diverse style. As one of Half of Black Ops to Miss Kittin stuff to minimal techno to turbo release to funk dvoid remix to horrorist remix to dancefloor killer stuff to his new album. I can go on. To look at those releases and not say he is not diverse is a mistake in my book. There are so many Techno people out there who stay at the same format, which can get pretty boring. But Hacker diffently is not one of them. Exact opposite. I don't think he can be any more diverse. Seriously what style hasn't he done? :eh: