Has anyone got any audio clips of this at all? Its more the B-side I am after a sample of, the Pet Duo mix.
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Has anyone got any audio clips of this at all? Its more the B-side I am after a sample of, the Pet Duo mix.
http://www.music-head.de/catalog/pla...back-true.html
this ep is sooo weak
Oh... :neutral:
I see what you mean.
With respect, I'm really over this stuff atm. There's only so much of it you can play before it's gets boring. And I mean the DJ.
And too, I now understand as to what Dustin had been saying for ages about the poor post production and pressings of alot of this German schranz.
I was kind of looking more at the Pet Duo mix, its not really my cup of tea. Shame as I like their stufdf normally.
Great ep...
i cant wait to get my copy...
and of course its allways veryvgood to see brazilian artists with more and more releases!!!
congratulations for the pets and congrats for sven for giving then this chance!!!
respect
Lukas
I liked the record.
Here if u play will work and some friends from others country told me the same.
Well, if this kind of techno isn't your favorite, don't be negative. Respect and be respected. I guess it's the forum rules ideia... ooo :neutral:
tool terror lol.
im sorry but this is a lame record.... seriously, listen hard to it and put ur hand on ur hearts and say it doesnt sound exactly like about 20 other records released last year in this genre
come on ffs
i dont enjoy saying other peoples work isnt any good because its not nice, but if people are allowed to say its amazing then we are allowed to say its not
for once i agree with your negativity faceless eyes, this is weak, pretty boring ,,,,,, I think that svens releases will become much more intresting once he learns to use something other than fruity loops,,,,,,,,, dont understand how a producer could put work like this out without thinkin that it sounds boring and the same as everything else, experimentation and originality is surely more important than a few euros in your pocket :evil:
worrrrdddddd
jesus christmas :doh:
not another one of these boring lifeless tooless fearless records :doh:
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Originally Posted by eyes without a face
cool record! much better than the average german hardtechno available at the moment! Witte is always quality!
wheres the average stuff then as id love to hear something more boring and less imaginative just for amusment value :lol: serious though not to be super negative sven really dose normally hit the spot just sounds like he`s hit a fruity loops block and needs some proper kit. :clap:
Exactly!
Tool Terror 1 is Great in a Techno set!
This record is only poor because its not been incorporated into a mix when your listening to the tune alone.
The great thing about Techno (especially German Techno) is the way you can play 2 or 3 records together consistently throughout a mix and use the blending of the tunes as a tune in itself.
When you do this with Tool Terror 1 is sounds great to me!
How can we be in a situation where people are now getting -ve comments for not using the fashionable software
The whole point of music, well lets say Techno is to enjoy the end product. Slagging of tiny parts before they have been buit into sets seems ridiclious to me.
rubbish
a good record should be able to stand on its own
this doesnt
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Originally Posted by eyes without a face
Ive got the record here actually, bought it as I had a gig and didnt want to play exactly the same records ive played every other time ive played recently.......in the last few months ive had real trouble buying hard techno (schranz :evil: ) records that arnt boring like this, could name lots of other records records, a couple by sven that sound very similar to this............ personally I rekon it sounds better when each hard tune is different in its own intensity or sets can sound boring, see the end of this mix as example:Quote:
Originally Posted by benjames
http://blackoutaudio.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=33446
what I meant about fruity loops is that the hard producers who have more individual sounds such as natus and kremer use proper kit as well to get that individuality.
There's been a lot of shit coming out lately on the german schranz market. Too many kids pressing stuff that guys like Wittekind, Kaoz or myself rejected when we got it as a demo.
But never fear.... there is new stuff by arkus p, wittekind, seema, waldhaus, viperxxl and myself coming this year, that will have a somewhat higher production standard.
btw, this release however is pretty strong I think. I dropped the cd-r a while ago and the crowd went nuts.
granted, it is a tool, but as such you can use it damn well.
There's been a lot of shit coming out lately on the german schranz market. Too many kids pressing stuff that guys like Wittekind, Kaoz or myself rejected when we got it as a demo
this has to be ironic post of the year surely? ;)
I guess this shows that not everone is granted the priviledge to be able to hear the difference between quality hardtechno and the lesser stuff. Luckily, not everyone is quite as ignorant.
Which is why a release on Artillery will sells over 4 times as often as the beforementioned rejected shit, which is dumped on the market for quick cash.
Anyways, knowing whats coming up in the next few months, I can say for a fact, that the overall production level will rise considerably this year and that this sector is going to keep growing. And the rest of the techno scene can keep on bitching about the overall situation, or they can attempt to come up with something original, that might change things.
yeah, because only u, sven and kaos know what good hard techno is right? :roll: ;)
one mans hard techno is another mans soft, and there is alot more original stuff going down (u did just say someone should come up with something original) which is also alot harder than say this very very average schranz release.... speed doesnt equate to hardness, and half the unknown producers on here do better quality harder techno with alot more depth...
but u say the production levels will rise this year and i hope so, because records like this have been coming out for too long now and if this schranz route is to continue for some then at least maybe things could be stepped up a gear, not for my personal enjoyment, but maybe for each artists own personal sense of achievment?
interesting post anyway :)
There are other labels out there that release quality stuff like Bitshift, but I dunno what demos they get, so I cen't say what has been rejected by them. ;)
But about your post with the unknown producers here; I've been going through the mp3s here on the forum every 3 months or so, but I might have missed something. Got any tips of unknown guys I should listen to?
Messanger.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJAmok
Without a doubt.
Hard ass shit, without the need to distort the hell out of everything.
Just proper, ear slicing hard shit.
yeah id say Brad for sure, but its a different type of hardness to the stuff u release on ur labels for sure. its not schranz and i dare say not fast enough, which is a good thing i think
Bloodstar does some wikid stuff too, Bastian Storm does some decent tougher stuff... there's a load on there have a proper look, id say Spark but i know uve hooked him up already, which is cool :)
me me
hahahahahaha
very boring. sounds like it was made using software only and made in about 1 hr. same pattern and same sounds.
wish people would really spend a bit more time making records rather than just dishing em out.
dunno why some producers (wont say any names) think adding loads of distortion or high bpm make the record hard?Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
seem to be using the same kick which i think sounds like a wet fart.
relax guys... if u can do it better do it. ;)
if u allready did, well i hope buy your record and play.
maybe some day you can spinn here... it's better than only say bad things about the producers job.
if is crap or not, who will decide is who buy the records. if u think who bought is supid, why do u care?
get your own life.
i guess it's better.
Totally agree!
Btw, you just gave me an idea:
Here's a challenge for everyone who is complaining: Anyone who is able to make a higher quality / better hardtechno track than Witte's will qualify for an immediate release on my label. And to make it more interesting: I pay darn well ;)
Waiting for pms :clap:
that is true, he does pay well. ben is 100% legit and solid!Quote:
Originally Posted by DJAmok
(amok, are we still on for my Artillery #13)
(still on! might flip the numbers around though, i just got some nice demos last week)
u guys are bringing it down to a "ooo my schranz is better than yours" level and its not about that....
someone posted up Sven's new record with the view of harvesting peoples opinions on it... they were gave, and just because some are negative its toys out the pram time.... im sure if everyone had knobbed the release and said it was amazing then everyone wud b much happier but fact is it doesnt work like that as im sure u know, and saying to people "oh u do better" doesnt solve things, its not a case of who does it better, its a case of trying to make those who are doing it realise that maybe they wouldnt get slagged if they kept things more interesting and fresh, hey lets be really rash and even suggest doing something non-techno as many do.....
its not about paying well either, is that an incentive? "ohh he pays well best knock him some schranz up" jeezzz..... do u think Beltram got paid well when "Energy Flash" first came when he was younger than the schranz lot? i dont....
check the filez section and if u cant find something to release on ur label in there thats better than this tool terror record then il personally eat my own hat
well said scott :clap: i will have a bite of your hat 2 providing its not a beanie as they get stuck in my throut ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, at the end of the day though your tunes or label really dont fall into this catagory amok, as they are always different sounding and varied (what i own anyway) and its nice of you to stick up for sven but deep down im sure you agree this is a weak weak tune which was the hold point of the topic anyway, just to get peoples opinions on it :twisted:
no mate its a flat cap, goes down easy on its own or with a nice glass of milk
Sorry, but I allready understood what are you talking about. For me it's just a record, if u don't like it don't buy. ;)
I will play and I'm sure who bought and liked will play too. So you can stay with your ideia.
I use different tunes at my DJ set from producers like Henry Cullen to Glenn Wilson. And germans producer too. Here in Brasil it's possible because people feel the music and dance. We have party to every kind of Techno, so it's easy... if u don't like don't go, and have fun at another event. Or stay at your bedroom spinning with your friends.
Some german records sounds crap to me too, but If I think it's bad producion I don't buy.
Note this is what I think about the topic. It's my opinion.
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Originally Posted by DJAmok
mmmh, das nenn ich ne herausforderung :cool:
we live in the uk, its not like we dont have partys for everykind too haha, jeez.... ur missing the point totally, it wasnt aimed at u... as i stated before, opinions were wanted on the record, opinions were given.. no one mentioned wether or not we were going to buy a copy haha
the way u are speaking its "u dont like it so ur not allowed to say its bad, but because i like it im allowed to say its good".... u can play it till the cows come home, that wasnt the question here......
:roll:
I don't think anyone has a problem with people saying they don't like the record or giving their opinion on it. Thing is, many comments were not directed at this record, rather than ALL wittekind's productions and even further to ALL "schranz"
talk about missing the point ;)
Dsp's is better than any of them and you know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJAmok
well if we are going for missing teh point, i actually named a production of Sven's that i said rocked, and one i still spin at home from time to time, so errrr... yeah, i missed the point :roll:
;)
argh :doh:
Well those comments miss the point, but I'm still glad you made em ;)
of course :)
why should a record that was made to be played side by side with other music and sound have to be able to stand on its on?Quote:
Originally Posted by eyes without a face
own not on
Because when people make this kind of music, they justify lazy production by saying "well, it`s supposed to be mixed"Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindful
But what if it is supposed to be mixed surley its not just lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
I would never call Mills or Beyer lazy(not saying you are)but to me this is music that is made purley to stand side by side with other music.
Trance is where the anthems belong.
I respect you as an artist Steve but looped up techno is just as importent as any kind of techno to me