Personally i think this man is one of the gods at producing quality funky techno.
What's your views about him?
Also has anyone got any recent sets of his? ;)
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Personally i think this man is one of the gods at producing quality funky techno.
What's your views about him?
Also has anyone got any recent sets of his? ;)
i'm sure i posted one in the filez section recently
man u guy's need to check dat shit regulary
yes you did, it was pretty good tooQuote:
Originally Posted by conflict
tine is the man.
in the beginning when he started playing as a dj in slovenia's only club then, ambasada gavioli, he played house.. and few times even on drum 'n bass parties.. years later, he's on top of techno..
+ he's really cool guy, always in the mood and smiling ;)
lovely guy, really down to earth
terrible music, its funky with no balls, dj'ing is ok but same really applies to his sets
just reminds me of that big Intec sound, eurrgghh
He bores the hell out of me and seems to get worse each time I see him play out.
Valentino Kanzyani = the new hardhouse. loopy loopy predictable disposable tracks. when people like BK are playing his tracks you know its time to move on. he'll be playing for 'tidy' in two years ;)
Quote from BK about a new track on intec by Valentino..
'This stuff gets more hard house every day'
Nail on the head there. Not liking a thing he is producing recently tbh.
Valentino Kanzyani is wicked. Great loops with growing baselines nice vocal stabs .
I saw him and umek b2b last saturday and he droped some realy nice tunes. I carnt see how hard house is techno? please explain ?
its quite clear its the overall feel of that kind of funky techno, nothing too special production wise, not much depth, usually a bit too fast, same repetitive synth stabs
more the formula than the sound id guess
BK plays loads of techno these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by primevil
BK does have some good tunes in his techno sets. And billy nasty and chris liberator played at the last tidy weekender i went with chris and he played some wicked techno stuff like technic 1 and some seno stuff and he got the place rocking!Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcollective
Right then, i think you guys that have snubbed Kanzyani are just narrow minded, you need to get out more an see whats actually going on!! hehe!
exactly....he plays the techno that will in a few years will completely replace the hardhouse scene. a few years back the Kanzyani type stuff was quite advanced for it's time, but it just hasnt progressed. now the hardhouse crowds are clicking on to the this kinda techno due to people like BK playing more and more of it. once they hear it more they just won't go back to the old hardhouse simply because the Kanzyani stuff has more groove and is more danceable. however for the crowds that want to hear more radical music, this kinda music just isnt cutting it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcollective
techno is very healthy at the moment...just not in this form
I saw him play two weeks ago. He was rubbish. If anyone's narrow minded it's Kanzyani for playing the same boring shi.t.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.P.
I heard him at Global Gathering, and thought at the time it was pretty unchallenging, and boring. Just nothing special. It wasn't particularly bad, but I ended up wandering off to another arena.
word, narrow minded indeed, seriously, i was listening to Valentino 4 - 5 years ago in Atomic Jam, Bugged Out etc and he was doing exactly the same thing then, and i mean exactly. He's really old hat now, its not even funky its just really pre-meditated, and very very close to hard house in terms of structure and sounds usedQuote:
Originally Posted by Stretch
gave up on this guy years ago....pure yawn.
boring unimaginative tunes.
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Originally Posted by Stretch
Well, lets not let this turn into a tirade against Kanzyani. But I have to agree. Bland is the word I would use.
Or vanilla.
Lets not smear the good name of vanilla now...Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
Well dispite all you veiws on him, he seems 2 be doin pretty damn well for him self!! good on him i say, theres obviously lots of ppl out there that love his wrk. :clap:
Yeah, as much as I slag the manufactured mindless joke that is Girls Aloud. They also are doing well for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by dis-tek
It`s a strange world.
Euphemism of the day! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
only seen him once... it was at antiworld...maybe 2 years ago - hadn't heard much of him at the time. i suppose being at antiworld, in the techno arena, he was always going to play harder and he sure did - it was relentless, energetic, hard stuff and i loved it! As for his releases, i think tunes like 'la sala loca' and 'learning how to do it' are quality! Yeah they're big 'athemic' riff lead tunes but you need a bit of that now and then. AS for being like hard house - well no, hard house is trying to be like techno - where do you think they get all their ideas from! Got his mix Cd on intec and i reckon its pretty good. starts off a bit proggy and 'melow' and perhaps there aer too many 'anthems' one after teh other towards the end but i'm pretty happy with it. He's a good lad i reckon - go valentino!! :o)
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Originally Posted by ShaunT
Well said matey!! :cool:
Umeks less talented side kick?
i agree .. well said :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by A.P.
cheers mate! ;o)Quote:
Originally Posted by A.P.
I know everone's entitled to their own opinion etc etc bla bla bla, but i do feel rather sad when i read negative comments about techno. I mean, i personally dont really get on with the minimal detroit type stuff.... find it rahter dull.. but hey, its still better than most other types of music around! Valentino's music may not be everyones cuppa but its stil decent, well produced music.
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Originally Posted by eyes without a face
Not everything has to be nails mate, appreciation of the music and a good progression is what makes a night, not just a night full of "balls".
saw him play several times,,and it was ok,. i had fun,,even i wouldn't call this style funky techno,,probably house or stuff like that,..
i'm not into his style,-it sounded really boring,,but have to say other people were nutz and girls went ***... heh., i dont like his production but there is bunch of people out there who'll say ,.it's ace,.
oh, please :nono: all he did so far is a result of his own talentQuote:
Originally Posted by Eddie
tine find his formula and he's milking it.. as much as 99,9% of all producers, incl. the ones on this board..
Yea but Girls Aloud aint doin very good for them selfs at the moment are they, bit of a pop flop really!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
they are doing fine mate, charting high, new single doing well as far as I can work out, one of the few successes from the whole pop idol arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by dis-tek
As for kanzyani, well, yeah, the guy is pushing techno, which is good, but I just can`t get my head around all this pseudi trance malarky these guys are playing.
All these appregiated synth parts and obvious progressions and stuff.
Yeah, it does the job but there`s something distinctly weak about it to my ears, and it doesn`t seem to have any feeling.
It`s the lift music side of techno to me.
So I think there is a good side and a bad side to it.
odd, i dont remember saying everything has to be nails?Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Kid
with all due respect you dont know me, i know a great deal about progression and i dont play hard myself as a rule, music with balls doesnt equal hard music or techno, it can be funky, deep, dark but still with that extra something that i feel Valentino definately lacks. as i said, 5 years ago it was enjoyable at least, but not now
at the end of the day, the guy is doing well enough to be playing at big european fesitvals like dance valley...dont think anyone can knock him for that...i wouldnt mind being in his position thats for sure!
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Originally Posted by eyes without a face
Fair enough maybe I misread your post.
It's hard to fall off the gravy train once your on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcollective
spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by Stretch
at Valentino's level it would be a bit odd if he wasnt doing the big festivals, he's been around for years people are forgetting
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Originally Posted by eyes without a face
:doh: You can be funky deep & dark with somthing that Valentino lacks.
Stop bigging yourself man. I dont like either of your stuff but dont feel the need to bitch or bragg. Just an observation.
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Originally Posted by massplanck
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Originally Posted by dirty_bass
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Why does this forum always end up slaging dj's / producers. This thread started with someone pointing out how much they are buzzing off Valentino. And then the wolfs move in and start ripping Valentino who has done alot for techno. I understand this forum is good because people post what they think. but i do have to ask, if you where face to face with valentino would you still make these comments? I feel we need people like Valentino playing on these big stages and selling lots of records across the world. Who realy cares if hardhouse djs play his records...in my eyes thats quality if a dj can crossover and play techno.
Yeah man fair play... everyone should just enjoy playing, listening and Dancing to music without being judged!!
I think Kanzyani's stuff is really good..... not sure of how much his sound has progressed but ive only known his more recent releases. But theres loads of big artists out there that havent changed their sound.... but when they do someone will still jump down their neck and say "Its not as good as his last stuff"...... Sometimes you cant win!!
:clap: here here
he´s got a bit predictable recently
but it fills a space if you need something of that style
good production quality
but slightly middle of the road ideas
go swivel, where did i big myself up? i dont remember bigging myself up at all, id like some proof please
re Valentino, stop crying people, some think he's great, some think he was ok 5 years ago, end of
the ones who do the most moaning are those whinging because other people dont like someone they do, get over it
yeah why the hell do ppl see the need to slate producers recently. if you wanna slate, go somewhere else. why bother posting if all you're gonna do is say something is shite? ps eyes - careful mate!!!!! there's no need for this hostile shit. ;)
careful what? ive not said anything out of order im only defending myself when someone says im bigging myself up when im clearly not