M zone got me listening to Hard trance and Hardstyle i have all the respct in the world for that man,i listen to the tunes he plays not the mixing and hes played the best hard trance and hardstyle around RESPECT to the mzone!!!!!!!!!
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M zone got me listening to Hard trance and Hardstyle i have all the respct in the world for that man,i listen to the tunes he plays not the mixing and hes played the best hard trance and hardstyle around RESPECT to the mzone!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Richierush
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M-zone has got respect from everyone in the hard dance scene,its not even a talking point,it just goes without saying.
True pearcy m8 ;)
He's got respect, dosent mean he can mix very well anymore though...Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Pearcey
Mixing isnt everything! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
Yeah but if you can't mix anymore, that defeats the object of being a DJ surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet
No not really, and ive heard m-zone mix well!Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
There is so much to djing rather than just mixing.
If u are the best dj technically, and u play shit tunes for urself! Does that not defeat the object of being a dj?
I think you have misunderstood Paul...Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet
I said "He's got respect, dosent mean he can mix very well anymore though", which means basically that he has respect from the scene for being one of the people who took it forward in his day...BUT, I said that nowadays he is a disapointment because of his lack of style and skill, and yes I agree he can play a good set every so often but IMO he's gone downhill....
No not really, and ive heard m-zone mix well!Quote:
Mixing isnt everything! ;)
Yeah but if you can't mix anymore, that defeats the object of being a DJ surely?
There is so much to djing rather than just mixing.
If u are the best dj technically, and u play shit tunes for urself! Does that not defeat the object of being a dj?[/quote]
:clap: well said amigo!!!!!!
MZONE IS A LEGEND
:evil: shit that post wasnt right !!!!!!!! :rambo:
PAUL SAID:
Mixing isn't everything
No not really, and ive heard m-zone mix well!
There is so much to djing rather than just mixing.
If u are the best dj technically, and u play shit tunes for urself! Does that not defeat the object of being a dj?
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Lack of style... mate uve gotta be kidding me. He created the style that we all copy. Musically! Hes a disapointment! Maybe to trainspotters who cant ave fun without hearing clean mixes! Man... i cant believe u are sayin that mate! Agreed his mixing isnt the best, but u gotta look past that!Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
if you think of how long hes been at it and all the club systems and high powered headphones that have pounded his ears over the years its a pretty good feat that he can still pull together a good set, no doubt that he pioneered the scene and respect to him for sticking with it all this time
M-zone has a serious lack of style Paul, A serious one...mixing over breaks, poor beat matching, not knowing his records....look past it??!! How the **** can you look past a DJ who used to be massive in the scene and now he is just mixing as though he dosent care....and I'm not a ****ing trainspotter!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet
Just cos I'm a youngun dosent mean I don't know anything....
**** this
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Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
M-ZONE has so little style that somehow he managed to create arguably and pioneer wat we call hard trance!
He doesnt know his Records!!! Well if u say so.
Mixes as if he doesnt care! If u say so.
im not havin a go or anythin,but u say he has no style?!? who do u think created the style of music u play?!? he was the first 2 play quality trance back in the 90's then he was the first 2 play 'hardstyle' or whatever u want 2 call it a few years back.mzone is a pioneer in dancemusic in general coz he brought so many diffrent styles 2 this country an blew every1 away with what he was playin. yes,his mixin is quite bad although ive seen him when his mixin has been good but your not gonna do flawless mixin everytime u play a set r u? if u want 2 hear flawless mixin but poor tunes,go 2 1 of the major clubs.if u want 2 hear the best tunes,the most important thing,mzone is the man.
Yeah well you can keep your bloody M-zone....for me he does nothing, there are so many dj's that deserve more respect than he does...Quote:
Originally Posted by basslinejunkie
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Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy
for me m-zone was a big influence to the hard trance scene an i respect him for that but im sorry m-zone was a quality dj ages ago and that was basically becos hed play excellent tunes that nobody ever heard of and where a bastard 2 get hold his sets where blindin. id listen to 1 of his sets and think wow every tune he played was amazing **** his mixin. that was until i heard the shit hes playin now im sorry but 4 me it dosent do anythin 4 me its just bang bang no emotion
M Zone does have a lot of technical skill! It's just very unorthodox.
Try mixing how M Zone mixes a set. I've tried it before, and it is extremely hard to get the basslines to come in at the right place and make everything sound passable when you mix so quick. So he makes mistakes - they could go a lot worse believe me, and you'd see if you try mixing like him.
Personally I love Mick's mixing in a club when i'm on the dancefloor because it is full on - bassline into the next bassline into the next, etc. This is what is amazing about M Zone - there is so much energy in his sets that it is a challenge to dance to. Personally I feel that what he plays now (or at least a few months ago) is the best style of music suited to him too, because it's just as full on as his sets.
Now as for at home on a CD/Tape whatever, I find myself just nit picking all his mixing, thinking 'that didn't sound right' or 'that was wrongly placed'. I don't do that on the dancefloor, and that's why I don't listen to his CDs or tapes.
As for everyone who is saying M Zone is all about the tunes - I don't agree. How can he be when he generally plays about 2-3 minutes maximum of each tune? It's his mixing.
every body knows m-zone isnt the best at mixin an 4 me an most m-zone fans it is the tunes he plays even if it is 4 2-3mins this was he finest quality as a dj and imo he dosent play any tunes of that quality any more
an 1 more thing even tho u say "I don't agree. How can he be when he generally plays about 2-3 minutes maximum of each tune? It's his mixing." it isnt he plays the best part of each record an be 4 u get bored of it its cut out and mixed quickly an straight onto another record 2 keep u interested
i miss M ZONES trance man .. :eh:Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
i miss M ZONES trance man .. :clap:
Well then it's his mixing that is more important then isn't it!Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
how is it his mixing no 1 says after his sets what a wicked mixed set by m-zone they say wow that tune was amazing an that tune was thats what he stands out as a class dj it is his selection and arrangement of quality tunes
enuff said
m-zone's production in the 95-96 was awesome for uk44 and his other labels!! only have a phew on vinyl due to people not willin to sell them cause there so good!!! ist airborn-blaggermaster was i killer of a tune cained by the mad man himself.on the the dj side of things he was'nt all that good at times but still deliverd the goods for me allway's!!!! I lOVE M-ZONE!!! 110%
respect mick!!!!
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(voorheez)As for everyone who is saying M Zone is all about the tunes - I don't agree. How can he be when he generally plays about 2-3 minutes maximum of each tune? It's his mixing. :clap: :clap:
I totally agree. In the past I'd always leave a club after an m-zone set not knowing many of his tunes as he always used to have the frshest stuff.
Recently though he just plays the same old same old.. Check out this post from another topic about an m-zone set:
Check it:
1. Lorenzo DePreti - Dangerous Experience 3 months old
2. Schwarzende - The Censored Theme New
3. Analogic Disturbance - Hunting (2) 9 months old
4. Shithead - Shithead 2003 New
5. Tronik - Sensational 3 months old
6. Julian Dj & Davide Sonar - Go Go Go 6 months old
7. Jimmy the Sound - Modulo 1 year old
8. Julian Dj & Davide Sonar - Techno Noise 1 year old
9. ?
10. Trance Generators - You Can't Stop Us (Analogic Dist. mix) New
11. ?
12. ?
13. Dj Isaac - Thriller 2002 1 year & a half old
14. Player One - Insomnia 2 years old
15. The Hose - My Little Stalker New
16. Brain 40 New
Mostly old tunes so saying that m-zone is all about tune selection and not mixin is bollocks!
People can say how badly they rate m-zones mixing but his style is 100% unique and no one even attempts to mimic this which must mean there is a huge amount of technical skill involved.
I have nothin but upmost respect for the m-zone :clap: :cool: :clap:
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Originally Posted by KebabsJJK
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Mostly old tunes so saying that m-zone is all about tune selection and not mixin is bollocks! ur missin my point m8 that tune selection ur showing is what im on about its totally cack boring tunes, so now u av got an m-zone who dosent really mix well as 2 the old m-zone who played quality tunes an still didnt mix well, an i mean by his mixin keeping the beats inline with each other no doubt his mixin is unique but say its good is nonsense
I see your point mate but tbh if im in a club I dont really care if the odd beat slips.. It may seem a bit sloppy but the sheer originality of his mixes more than compensates imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
an u cant ell me u listen 2 him just becos of his class mixin cos it aint true sorry m8, the 1st thing that seperated m-zone from other djs then was his the tune selectiona and co-ordination the only reason i thought mark was a better dj cos he had he had both qualitys excellent mixin an great selection of tunes as well as co-ordination. imo m-zone has lost this part of his djing ability which 4 me is his biggest asset
No thats not the only factor.... cause you know that even if he does drop a good proportion of old tunes hes still gonna get the crowd stomping and everyone'll leave with a huge grin on their face. M-zone is the f*ckin man wen it comes to creatin atmosphere even if his beatmatchin is sometimes sloppy. Not the most important thing imoQuote:
Originally Posted by macca
i agree mixin isnt so improtant but it helps, but the thing he stands out 4 an is the most important thing 4 most djs is the sets they play mixin comes second, but the shit he plays now imo is cack so if he hasnt got the tune selection an excellent sets what has he got as a dj cos he mixin aint the best imo but this isnt my main criticism its his selection of tunes, 2 me there boring an not original thats my crtiticism the stuff he plays now!
I agree not neccessarily original but to me it just sounds like you dont like hardstyle and if thats the case you wont like any m-zone sets nowadays!
...if mixing wasn't that important then all DJ's could just play tracks that went off! hey, you could get dodgy Dave the mobile disco man to play at events! :roll:
i dont not like hardtsyle some of its amazing but most reminds of hardhouse it sound 2 similar 2 be honest i prefer the older stuff music that gets you movin but listenin 2 it at the same time hardstyle just dosent do that 4 me touch me concentration on hoovers an bass not on the melody side
hardstyle to me is harder hard house...
...just my opinion. hardstyle heads feel free to shoot me! ;)
...BUT, and its a big 'but', that last time i heard Mark play hardstyle, i was quite impressed. his tunes were very different & not the usual below par, sub standard, predictable hardstyle...Quote:
Originally Posted by Si the Sigh
"hardstyle to me is harder hard house..." totally agree :clap:
I totally disagree that Hardstyle is harder hard house. The Dutch Hardstyle can be sort of scene as that, because they use very similar synth stabs to hoovers.
Italian style Hardstyle is in a no way like hard house... its very wierd and monotone, hard house is no way like this.
sorry m8 it is imo becos both basically concentrate on bass not enuff imagination any where else and whats more similar about syles these is nearly every track of hardtsyle i hear is same and not different this was the probably hardhouse's main faultQuote:
Originally Posted by Hakka
I think this topic is loosing site...
Facts I believe to be true...
M-ZONE has put a massive input to the scene and done brilliant work for the underground world.
M-ZONE has the ability to pick great tunes, whether that be the present hardstyle or trance of the past.
M-ZONE has a unique mixing style, which is very fast and to deliver tunes so that the bass lines and hard kicks are complemented well.
M-ZONE make minor mistakes at the espense of offering a faster paced set.
M-ZONE recently has blended more older stuff with newer due to internet bringing newer tunes to us at same time as M-Zone finds them.
- Below is what I disagree with...
M-Zone's mixing is poor. It simply is not, he mixes a very different way which IS TOTALLY BRILLIANT to hear on the dance floor, but as Voorheez says, can be easily be picked at if heard on CD/TAPE.
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M-Zone is a legend, great DJ, great guy... nuff said.
trust me your not listening to enough hard style then... and I don't mean that as the be all and end all, I just think you aren't hearing enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
Hardstyle isn't about JUST being hard, its basically the music at the harder end of the hard trance spectrum (its evolved from it). It's more about the PERCUSSION and STRUCTURE which the "hardness is delivered". The bass is very important, but its the quirky riff which goes with it which gives the track its unique style. Hardstyle is power and energy at a good tempo. Hard House for me is not this.
Hard House is exactly what it is, and I'm sorry but I think you couldn't mistake the two in a million years. They sound different and are completely different in design and theme.
Also I'm sorry that I disagree with you, hey your entitled to your opinion but I do love my hardstyle and I think that you are wrong to suggest it is like hard house. In that case why don't l like hard house?Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
Respect your thoughts and opinions though mate, I've taken them in. ;)
i believe most people dont like hard house be cos of the commercial side of it an the twat money load djs that play it, an they seem 2 be moving on 2 hardstyleQuote:
Originally Posted by Hakka
good point about the commercial side of things, but in fairness, I've never liked Hard House.
i hope im wrong as much as i dont like it i wouldnt wanna c these bastards comercialise it an make money of it the twats, all i can say is be true 2 ur own style an good look 2 ya
fair play man.
Well, i've heard plenty of people say 'what a wicked set' about M Zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
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Originally Posted by macca
That track listing shows that M Zone is popular despite not being so upfront with his tunes anymore, because of his style of mixing.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca
Also, those tunes aren't cack and boring and it's not nonsense to say his mixing is good! :nono: