www.deadact.com
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www.deadact.com
couldnt let it by my side to post it here..
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haha great site:lol:
wicked site!
these vids rocks hahahahha
ha ha what a dope
been talking about this site on the live pa board. it's great isn't it?
I'm shocked!! :eek:
does this sort of thing happen alot???
i've been to some awesome nights out in the past couple of years, and if i found out that some 'live sets' ive heard/seen were pre-recorded, it would really damage my faith in dance music, I mean really Gut me!!
I hope none of you lot could even think about pulling a stunt like this.
I shall be watching you all very very closely next time i go out. :tongue:
Producing music is much much much harder than DJing. I don't get how we can knock producers and not DJing itself.
I don't give a **** if its not live. I know how much effort and commitment goes into producing and how any ****ing dick can match a few beats on some records which in many cases ain't even theirs.
There's some warped views on things.
Preparing a live pa is pretty difficult too. it's completely different than producing music. it's one thing to write a 5 min monster, it's another to write/semi-write a 60, 90 or 120min monster.
but "faking" a live pa like these artists have are in short cheating the crowd. They paid for a Live, active, "happening in front of them" performance and not some monkey pressing play on a DAT or CD. At least most performers that cheat just dj their full tracks in ableton, but the ones on this site show fully planned out sets (usually).
from my understanding, this happens a lot in the psy-trance world, and understandably so, psy-trance is extremely layered. maybe the crowds that go to psy-trance parties know they're just listening to a modern day version of a cd, maybe not. but it's good to see a site like this point out that you can't pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
FAKE'S WILL ALWAYS BE FOUND OUT! (whether or not people care is another topic.)
a fake live pa is no different than a fake dj set...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m01g4XnC_qU
my $0.02
ps- on a self promotion note, keep your eyes peeled as i finish up my mastering class and live pa setup and performance videos using Ableton Live 8, courtesy of AudioSchool, Moscow. =] </spam>
There is no such thing as a live PA though. It's all faked. You're all goddamn liars.
damn it, you saw the strings, didn't you? I'm gutted.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyBlack
you are too hung up on the word 'live'Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick DSP
To say what you did, see quote, is just ridiculous. Maybe you have never tried production yourself.
DJing is such a different thing to music production.
I know that when I go and see a'live' PA the chances are it is not live. But at least the guy that actually wrote the ****ing music is up there getting the credit and not some jumped up little cunt behind the decks STEALING the credit.
Was you really that naive in the first place to think that it was all live?
I see what you're getting at. yes, playing live is a relative term. but, i wouldn't consider playing full tracks or full mixes in ableton/cubase/logic equal to composing and arranging loops, samples and sequences in real time. (yes i know many live pa's including my own that do just that) but that's my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
But there's no need for personal digs my good man. i think there's more than enough sources out there to prove I'm far from talking out of my ass on this subject. ;)
I will agree that credit still needs to be given to the producer, it is difficult. but credit shouldn't be given to the producer posing as a performer and that's what this site is exposing.
damn edit button timed out...
just wanted to add...
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DeadAct.com is an online archive of videos found in the public domain that show electronic performers blatantly faking their "live set".
To qualify as a Dead Act, the performer must have pre set out their performance in such a way that if they were to drop dead, the set would keep playing on as normal. Bonus points for fake knob tweaking, failed attempts to play real instruments , and good orgasm faces.
ITs too easy to jump on the bandwagon with the current vogue.
The effort DJs put in is so ****ing lame in comparison. So many DJs make out they are doing something when they arn't. No one is bashing them. Its just pathetic.
I am not having a dig at you personally. I don't know you. I am having a dig at what your saying.
anyway , there's nothing wrong with being fake
but i hate these " fake live acts " exposing themselves to everyone
it's disgusting and has to stop.
Careful Henry... you stop dropping your trousers and you'll have to start dropping your fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
:lol::lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
maybe you should research who ou're talking to before making silly assumptions about Pat :wink:
maybe thats on purpose Baz ~
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by rhythmtech
Anyone ever see that thread on t'internet where some guy was lecturing Aphex Twin on analogue synths, absolutely oblivious to who he was talking to?
No, got a link? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TechMouse
the conspiracy thickens :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by MITA
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Originally Posted by MITA
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vinyl is the way forward guys I said it before and Ill say it again. faking a dj set is like going up on stage and putting on a cd saying here's one I made earlier. horse crap .
Just had a quick hunt - looks like the message board in question is no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spark
In a nutshell, some guy was banging on about VST being as good if not better than real analogue hardware, and a user called "analord" was saying - you know - hang on a minute, VST is pretty good but even the best algorithms don't come close to emulating all the subtle nuances of real analogue circuitry. Cue the original guy saying "well, who the **** are you? you don't know shit etc."
A very entertaining read.
Heres one someone else made earlier. I am going to now pretend that DJing is really hard and I am so talented and special and should be put up on a pedestal for all to wank over.Quote:
Originally Posted by djfilthmonger
^^
he is Deadmau5
Djing and wanking at the same time is very hard mate trust me I do it all the time. sometimes when the track is about to kick in I spray my load all over me decks .Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
If that aint talent i dont wat is
ha ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by MITA
Been out the country for 5 years and come back and have to ask, what the **** happened? What the **** happened to techno and whats all this psy shit?
:yup: is true~Quote:
Originally Posted by djfilthmonger
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
so don t dj and don t play other peoples tunes because you didn t produce it why was there mailing lists to djs most producers like djs playing their tunes :hmmm:
exactly promotion and that.Quote:
Originally Posted by markandrew
i smell a windup here :smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by djfilthmonger
When you compare the effort that goes into producing compared to what a DJ actually does, its a night and day difference. DJ's get way more credit than they deserve. But no one is bashing them. I am not saying **** DJs off. I am saying lets get some perspective on this. Everyone is too quick to jump on the bandwagon and slate this live thing. Its electronic music for **** sake. What are you expecting? Sometimes its the promoter that bills it as being live and not the choice of the artist.
I own a few records of Patricks (Cluster / Hydraulix). I rate him as a producer. But I am not here to be a brown nosing little groupie slag. I can see he has enough of them already.
:)
It all comes out of a speaker at the end of the day . but I would feel a little cheated or dirty if I knew some guy/gal has just pressed play on a cd and stood there dancing to it on the stage thinking he is the shit .
Do you DJ with them?Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
Djs do that all the time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by djfilthmonger
If the crowd are getting off on it then the guy that wrote it is the shit.
No, not currentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by TechMouse
But I am a member of the PRS ;)
Fair comment to a point, but you could say the same about the Tiësticle or whatever. His tunes get spanked out to massive crowds who all seem to get off on it in some way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
At the end of the day, when it comes to rave music everyone plays a part - from the promoters who put it all together, the producers who craft the beats, the DJs who play them, the artists who play live sets right down to the people who pay their hard earned to come boogie.
There is a weird cult of DJ worship that stems from the fact that the mainstream music machine doesn't cope well with anything that doesn't have obvious figureheads, but really - who gives a shit?
If you're having fun doing what you're doing then fuck everyone else and their opinions.
I was DJing at a house party last week, and some eastern European guy was giving me his 2p about how I really ought to be playing some minimal, and that hard techno was "so 2004", whatever the fuck that means. He then proceeded to give me a lecture about how to use my own mixer, claiming he was a professional sound engineer. Frankly I just found it amusing.
If you're a DJ shouldn't that be the MCPS?Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
Same thing now m8Quote:
Originally Posted by TechMouse
I am quite a bit more tolerant of music genre now, more so than when I was younger and obsessed with one genre etc. but hey we all grow up. As for being told what to play, I would have chinned him. But from experience he might well have had a point with regards to the mixer. I am quite pissed by how someone who cant hold a beat or understand something as simple as gain staging is allowed near a mixer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TechMouse
You may well not be one of those, so that isn't directed at you.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
Well, I hope I don't fit into that category. Even so, I wouldn't dream of going up to a DJ at any kind of event (house party, warehouse party, club, whatever) and try to tell them how to do their job.
That said, I did have to reign in one of the D&B DJs last week who seemed to think that Red = Good. Down on the mixer, up on the amp... sounds better, less chance of blowing the amp. But in fairness, it was my mixer and my mate's rig.
not strictly true mateQuote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
the dj and his technique and his programming skills on the night
will set a track in perfect context ( hopefully! ) so the punters get the most from it
it isn't just a case of stick anything on and hope it's ok.
or a case of completely submitting to the track you are playing either
some tracks ONLY come to life when you get stuck in and dj/mix them properly
get them wrong and they suck
how does that work?
well I really like djing and you definetly like wat ur doing. I dont really see the point in deciding which is better. at end of the day Im going to keep doing wat i do . I do like messing ard with producing tracks but its a secondary hobby for me right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
Techno can be dull as anything when it's unmixed.
It's definitely a style where the difference between a good DJ and a bad DJ is much more pronounced.
I agree, and even more so with techno.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
I have deliberately exaggerated things to make a point. Just trying to fuel a bit of discussion.
For me personally, I am more concerned about going to a party and having to endure poor mixing skills than how live an act/artist really is.
Just go to better parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by aNaLpLeAsEr
Works for me.