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hey Jimmy ruskin when you had the brilliant idea for your 2009 record "the outsider" did it ever occur to you to google and see that it had not already been done?
http://www.discogs.com/Gunjack-The-O...release/243703
when i made "The Outisder" in -------2004--------
i DID google the bloody ep name and make sure no one in the techno world had tread that ground first....
so cheers for that!!! ...just goes to show that after all your snobby, elitist bullshit, you're still an unoriginal cunt.
GJ
who is jimmy ruskin dude?
indeed.
Care to ellaborate on the Rant, Mr. Gibb?
Edit: Don't. The negativity isn't worth the selatious bullshit.
pathetic thread.
Indeed.
I just noticed there too, PunJack- DJ Shadow released an album under that name too in 2006. What a dick, right?
yea, it's GIBBS not GIBB. also DJ shadow the outsider is great! but hardly has anything to do with techno.
anyway the sincerest form of flattery and all that....
Oh aye, there's a couple of you alright.
So is DJ Shadow paying homage to you? I always thought you were kind of immitating him, but in a more Technoesque fashion.
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Originally Posted by force
no. what is pathetic is some cunt who puts a name on an EP without googling it first... and if he did google it first he is an even BIGGER cunt.
Why does it make him a cunt though? Because he has the same named EP as you? Perhaps he is going through something that is making him feel like an outsider, he needs to vent his demons. That's not a bad thing. Christ mate, you do it enough!
Seriously though, reel it in a bit eh? If you have nothing of substance to say, say nothing.
like i said, dj shadow is a whole other ballgame he came first in ANOTHER genre, i mean there are books etc by the same title too! that is not the point, the point in my mind is that it is all right to adapt ideas as long as you turn them into something they were not, i/e taking a concept that may have already been used in another context and adapting it to your own... for example, if some dude makes "a murder of crows" ep on some hip hop or rock and roll shit, i wouldn't say a F4cking word, but when somebody decides, hey, i am gonna do a techno record called "the outsider" then yea i get miffed, because that was my idea and i did it and it was well recieved and sold well, so why do i deserve some elitist cunt like jimmy ruskin trying to pretend it never happened? the least he could do would be to do his homework and respect EXISTING PROJECTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyBlack
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Originally Posted by DannyBlack
mate, i don't care if he feels like an outsider or not, the fact is that every other artist i know GOOGLES PROSPECTIVE EP NAMES TO SEE IF THEY EXIST, BEFORE USING THEM OFFICIALLY, why should james be any different? it's pretty shameless if you ask me. i would never put out an album called "into submission" or "the divide"...
more pretending gunjack doesn't exist from some cunt who never once gave credit where it was due. tony surgeon wouldn't have done this. jeff mills. dave clarke. oli ho. these are respectful artists with an interest in originality. james ruskin is just an opportunist and a snyde cunt to boot.
I undertand where you're coming from- however, I don't get the aggression. Surely it makes him a bit of a dope for not checking? It doesn't warrant this level spurious bile toward him. Personally, I have never listened to anything by him and don't know what he's about. But im pretty sure the music would be entirely different to what you put out on "the outsider".Quote:
Originally Posted by gunjack
your into techno and have never listened to any ruskin tracks?!?!?!?!? your in for a treat when you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyBlack
dont understand your rage gunjack. its only a name, its not as if hes stealed that actual tune.
Shameless or shameful?Quote:
Originally Posted by gunjack
*Confused*
And besides, different genre or not, Shadow claimed the name first (i guess) so it's still not an original name for an EP, whatever rules you want to attach is just moving goal posts to suit your own intentions (imo)
shameless as in he has no shame, or should be ashamed but is not... u dig???
and rage it isn't, but it's no secret there is no love lost between james and i...
TBH "the outsider" (my one) was called that BECAUSE of Jimmy ruskin, karl regis and those cunts being so snobby and elitist! so yea i dunno it just kinda grates on my nerves when you get this fool coming out with a ****ing PAS remix of all things, of a song with a title which i feel was VERY identifiably GUNJACK... i mean i remember UMEK, VARELLA, SHUFFLEMASTER, PEPO, RUSH, JEFF etc all giving me love for the originality of the artwork (by japanese pop artist shinrock) and original hybrid sound of that record... so yea it sucks to have the snyde techolite crowd like ruskin and them pretend your shit never happened
Damn, so i cant call my next release The murder of Crws then.
BALLS!
The murder of ducks it is then.
Just another 'look at me' thread
Man, God is gonna be pissed at me for my track. I stole the name of one of the 4 horsemen...
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Originally Posted by DannyBlack
cough splutter wtf?
love gunjak love ruskin, im just here for shits n giggles
Does someone need a hug?Quote:
Originally Posted by gunjack
Seriously, in the grand scheme of things, this is so unimportant as to be completely not worth the electricity I am using to reply to it.
Solution? Get more creative with EP names. Makes it harder to run into duplicates.
The Outsider? NAAAAY. The One Who Is Not On The Inside. See? More words, same meaning, harder to accidentally duplicate, and you can sound all artsy techno in the process.
Either that or you can have a beer and chill the **** out. Either works.
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Originally Posted by marginmaster
Bullshit tread. get a ****ing life man
See, what you should have done is spoken to James or whatever label released the record, explain to them that you'd already come up with the concept and at the very least would like some acknowledgements.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunjack
Instead, you've gone ape shit, insulted all the people involved and spouted a load of crap to a bunch of people that probably don't care enough to do anything about it, which isn't really constructive at all now is it?
I like this idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by djshiva
The concept of being an "outsider" is hardly an original idea.
Ruskin probably did it because he wanted to. SImple as that, even if he saw a Gunjack record with it on, he probably thought, Who will give a crap anyway, it`s not a concept that can be copyrighted.
He doesn`t need the prop up, his career is doing fine, he`s a big name in techno.
He probably doesn`t think you exist, because you might possibly be irrelevant to him.
Who really gives a ****, it`s an ep name with an un-original title name regardless of who used it.
Pointless thread, tainted with bitterness?
wow...two techno producers both decide to use the same cliched title for their ep.
here's a thought: who f**king cares?
Maybe all the names, titles...etc in techno could be more original so then when were repeated it will be more noticeable...
I`m waiting for the "Stonking great cancerous testicle EP"
Or
"Title completely unrelated to the music EP"
Or the "James stole my idea EP"Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Laughing_Man
omg gunjack's back lol hahaha
nice avatar mate!
If your original take was shit, can we still nick the name?
ooh ooh
What about
"Spit the dummy EP"
Yeah, he stole it off of GunJack.Quote:
Originally Posted by MITA
Jon Rundell had a release out the same time as me last year both called Future Funk but I wouldn't call him cunt for having a release the same name as his release it didn't bother me at tall
calling someone a cunt for having a release the same name as your release is a bit bitter & petty it's a waste of enegry in fact it's pathetic!
gunjack needs to stay off the charlie
fool i haven't had a line of coke in many years, nice try though.
CUNT
say what you will homie but james knows he is taking the pissQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkmode
I`m sure he is stroking his white cat on the armchair in the command room of his evil techno fortress planning and scheming his next fiendish plot to rip off Gunjack and hence get even more sales and gigs so that he can dominate the world of techno using your stolen genius of EP names.
Or he thought of a name, and stuck it on his ep, not bothering to google it, cos he didn`t really care, knowing that it really didn`t matter one little bit.
I think that about sums it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Laughing_Man
I really think you're reading way too much into this Gunjack.
Go and use the negative energy and turn it into positive energy for you, therefore you will have gained something out of this.
Yeah, strike one for originality!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_OutsiderQuote:
The Outsider may refer to:
Contents
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[edit] Literature
- The Outsider (Colin Wilson), a book by Colin Wilson
- The Outsider (Richard Wright), a novel by Richard Wright
- The Outsider (magazine), a 1960s literary magazine
- "The Outsider" (short story), a short story by H. P. Lovecraft
- The Stranger (novel) (L'Étranger), alternately titled The Outsider, a novel by Albert Camus
- The Outsider (Howard Fast), a novel by Howard Fast
- The Outsider, a character in the novel Watchers by Dean Koontz
[edit] Film
- The Outsider (2002 film), a movie directed by Randa Haines, starring Tim Daly and Naomi Watts
- Gangster World, also known as The Outsider, a 1988 movie
- The Outsider (1961 film), a movie directed by Delbert Mann
- The Outsider (1980 film), a movie starring Sterling Hayden
- The Outsider (2005 film), a documentary directed by Nicholas Jarecki, featuring Bijou Phillips and others
- Le marginal (English: The Outsider), a 1983 film starring Jean-Paul Belmondo
[edit] Music
- The Outsider (album), an album by DJ Shadow
- The Outsider (CL Smooth album), an album by CL Smooth
- "The Outsider" (A Perfect Circle song)
- The Outsider Festival, a Scottish music and comedy festival
[edit] Television
- "The Outsider" (The O.C.), an episode of The O.C.
- "The Outsider" (Zula Patrol), an episode of The Zula Patrol
[edit] Video games
- The Outsider (video game), a forthcoming action-adventure game
But wait! There's more!
Stunningly enough, even within music the highly original combinations of the word "the" and "outsider" have been used....ooooh at around 200 times according to whats logged in discogs
http://www.discogs.com/search?q=%22t...all&btn=SearchQuote:
Search releases for sale: "the outsider"
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If you're going to bleat, trying bleating about something vaguely original that you've done.
Wow, haha, Everyone and their mum has used that title then.
I guess everyone likes to pretend they are clint eastwood.
When I do the running man the earth spins backwards
i bet james "jimmy" ruskin was inspired by that episode of the OC, not gunjack.
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Originally Posted by gunjack
http://img.skitch.com/20090310-fue4a...327sc2gd46.jpg
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oh, do fcuk off.Quote:
Originally Posted by gunjack
no one gives a fcuking shit.
just a heads up lads.. i have a new EP out soon. called "the outsider".
its gonna be savage!
what would be really original would be to call it "the insider."
except that's already a film :lol:
"Microdot" is ruskin!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by Microdot