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wow, this is well divided!!!!
death on a stick - and anyone else out there who thinks the same - why exactly do you think prime have been bad for techno. just interested. i feel the same in a way but i also feel that without prime putting out more formulated techno, techno would have lost a huge following and perhaps got too experimental for it's own good???????
See this is the problem I have when people go on about constantly being experimental and innovative. It's all well and good to be both these things, and I love hearing something new, but a lot of people do just want to listen to music that makes them jump up and down and have a good time, tunes that work for the body and not for the mind. Does this make the techno they listen to any less valid? In my experience most people who have got into techno have done so through the hard-loops route, and then varied their tastes a bit once they realise what else is out there. If you reduced to techno to purely experimental levels, it would take the fun out of it, and you'd also fail to attract a lot of people into it, as the tunes they'd hear could be far too otherworldly for them to get into. And yes, believe it or not, it's possible for techno to be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK EG
I'd rather spend the rest of my days locked in a room with two decks and a crate of Primate records than in a room with a load of techno musos whining on about how the scene's just not experimental enough.
i think that Prime did a good job of getting alot of artists noticed and in the beginning had a sound job that they were doing well. now i personally think that Prime are killin techno, they release some of the most dire and mind numbing records that have ever been pressed to vinyl. i own a few records and i realise that some of them are decent, i.e the ones i have got good eg being Manipulated. i know a few big name jocks who share this opinion too
manipulated is the best prime release i reckon, some decnt tunes on there, most of the recent stuff i have heard is not to my taste though.
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Originally Posted by Paul Zykotik
then let them listen to hard house and do beer bongs.
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Originally Posted by MARK EG
because jel ford and adam beyer are too busy playing eachothers skinflutes to take a chance on any new artists.
bong!Quote:
because jel ford and adam beyer are too busy playing eachothers skinflutes to take a chance on any new artists.
deaf - a good point. i sent them at least 3 ppl from prime 2 cd's about 1 year ago. since then every single track has been released on loads of different labels. yet they didn't even call me back to thank me. i haven't bothered sending them anything again.
apparently picotto is going to be bringing some stuff out on primate!
well that was to expect!
prime really, really, really sucks in terms of Techno.
agreed
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Originally Posted by MARK EG
bingo. i dont do bussiness with folks i havent looked in the eye.
This is obviously a touchy subject for a lot of people but to be fair to dismiss a whole label (and it seems distribution company) as ruining techno because you dont like what they do is a bit much.The fact is there has been over 100 release's on the various prime labels so the chance's you are going to be into all of them are pretty low(for the record im not that fond of most of it myself) but they have still released some great stuff from some varied (and new artists) so i really dont see how they are destroying techno.
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bingo. i dont do bussiness with folks i havent looked in the eye.
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sound principal, i believe very much in this ethos too !
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Originally Posted by deafmosaic
What, just because they're not into it for the same reasons as you? What if it's the music they love to listen to the most? Sorry mate, but that's little more than a stereotypical "techno fascist" statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
Let me put it like this - someone gets into techno, not through Fergie or anyone like that, but through a fellow techno lover or of their own accord. The sound they like most is the Primate sound. Just because they have a different idea of techno to you, (although what you both listen to IS techno, like it or not) you're going to dismiss them as someone who doesn't really get it, reason being that they don't like the same stuff you do? I can't understand that mentality at all.
Musical snobbery eh? You've got to love it... :roll:
look mate, if you are into techno to "jump up and down" then obviously you are into the music for very superficial reasons. nuff said.
I wasn't referring to myself. I listen to and feel passionate about many styles of dance music, which makes it very hard to understand your snobbery.Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic
What I can't get my head around is why you're better than someone who likes music that you don't, which with the stereotypes and your dismissive attitude is the impression you give me.
i haven't heard gunny say he was better than anyone..
Techno doesnt make you want to jump around???Quote:
Originally Posted by deafmosaic