More Mixer Advice Needed!!!!!

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Originally Posted by cascade

:shock: @ that video
omg thats amazin
lol
ive always been into rane and eckler.
2 dark horses in themixer world making quality.
i might be bying a new mixer in a few weeks.

might get a pmc-37 cause they were abasolutly awsome when i tred one last year. fits what i need from a mixer too.
never been too keen on djm-600, could never hold it when scratching, the chances of performing some serious turntablism on it are slim.
not bad at all for non turntablist trance djs though, think any effects unit can become cliche after a while, everyone knows what they sound like.
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dont think any bedroom dj needs a 4 channel mixer unless they have 4 inputs, pretty simple equation.

Iq is there any decent scratch mixers with 4 channels?

(abit of a contradiction there aint it, idea of a mixer is to make more space on the scratch board, problem is i have 4 inputs, 2 vestax, 2 cdj800) :eh: :neutral:

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Chances are not slim for turntablism at all.
Saw some amazing turntablism on Saturday with a DJM 600, defintley opened my eyes with the capabilities of this mixer.

"dont think any bedroom dj needs a 4 channel mixer unless they have 4 inputs, pretty simple equation."

What if he upgrades his setup?

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Chances are not slim for turntablism at all.
Saw some amazing turntablism on Saturday with a DJM 600, defintley opened my eyes with the capabilities of this mixer.

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Maybe so... But you wouldnt ever find Q-Bert or Craze, Clever or any other dj using a djm 600. Why?? Becuase they are not designed for it. Sure, a talented turntablist can use them for turntablism, but it doesnt make life easy to do it. Plus, the faders would wear out in a very short space of time.

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"dont think any bedroom dj needs a 4 channel mixer unless they have 4 inputs, pretty simple equation."

What if he upgrades his setup?

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The whole point of this scratch mixer arguement started by asking "If you are only ever going to use 2 channels". If you have plans to upgrade to 4 channels, then fair enough, get a 4 channel mixer. But i dont know anyone who ever uses 4 channels reguarly for it to be a warrented reason to by a mixer. Yes, 3 channels, i know a lot of people who do 3 deck mixing, and you can still get 3 channel scratch mixers. At the end of the day, its all down to personal preferance, and for me, i need something more than 300 channels that im not going to use, and a dodgy over used fx box built in. I like to have a quality built mixer, that lasts. You can say to me that "The djm 600 is a quality well built mixer", but put it next to an ecler hak or a rane, and it will feel like a fisher price toy...

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Originally Posted by IQ

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Chances are not slim for turntablism at all.
Saw some amazing turntablism on Saturday with a DJM 600, defintley opened my eyes with the capabilities of this mixer.

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Maybe so... But you wouldnt ever find Q-Bert or Craze, Clever or any other dj using a djm 600. Why?? Becuase they are not designed for it. Sure, a talented turntablist can use them for turntablism, but it doesnt make life easy to do it. Plus, the faders would wear out in a very short space of time.

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"dont think any bedroom dj needs a 4 channel mixer unless they have 4 inputs, pretty simple equation."

What if he upgrades his setup?

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The whole point of this scratch mixer arguement started by asking "If you are only ever going to use 2 channels". If you have plans to upgrade to 4 channels, then fair enough, get a 4 channel mixer. But i dont know anyone who ever uses 4 channels reguarly for it to be a warrented reason to by a mixer. Yes, 3 channels, i know a lot of people who do 3 deck mixing, and you can still get 3 channel scratch mixers. At the end of the day, its all down to personal preferance, and for me, i need something more than 300 channels that im not going to use, and a dodgy over used fx box built in. I like to have a quality built mixer, that lasts. You can say to me that "The djm 600 is a quality well built mixer", but put it next to an ecler hak or a rane, and it will feel like a fisher price toy...

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Yeah dude, regardless of the whole argument, i was responding to 2 different points made.

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Originally Posted by DJCraig Ryan

"dont think any bedroom dj needs a 4 channel mixer unless they have 4 inputs, pretty simple equation."

What if he upgrades his setup?

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lmao
well obviously its a good idea to have a 3plus channel mixe if your gonna use more then 3 inputs

and like IQ said, real scratch and turntablist would be limited on a djm-600, there not designed for that kinda mixing, period.
the EQ on a djm-600 is really good though, the effects dont really interreste me, abit limited and over used by pratically everyone who has one.
Rane are sick mixers, would deffinatly consider one

question for ya IQ,(or anyone for that matter)

would you prefere a rane or eckler over a vestax?
the scratch range of there mixers obviously

like a empath over a pmc-37?>
or a tt-56 over a pmc-07?
or any of the ecklers?
i was always under the impression that vestax were king leaders in scratch mixer market.
:?: :neutral:

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Originally Posted by cascade

question for ya IQ,(or anyone for that matter)

would you prefere a rane or eckler over a vestax?
the scratch range of there mixers obviously

like a empath over a pmc-37?>
or a tt-56 over a pmc-07?
or any of the ecklers?
i was always under the impression that vestax were king leaders in scratch mixer market.
:?: :neutral:

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Deffinately the Rane, all the way. If you look it up, all turntablists who arnt sponsored by a company will tell you that it is the best mixer on the market, and if you havent got the cash, go for the ecler. Vestax arnt bad mixers by any means, but they had the money and a name in the market to give sponsorship to the likes of Q-Bert and such a lot of people think that they are the best. When they brought out the original Pmc O7, it was the best mixer on the market, but they have been far supased now...

Ive only just found out that ecler do an alternative to the pioneer djm -

http://djservice.com/data/grafix/Pro...vertical_4.jpg

http://www.djforums.com/reviews/mixers/ecler_nuo5.php?

Thanks for the insight in to Scratch mixers... anymore thoughts on the mixers I was originally looking towards? :)

I do find all the info on the Rane, Ecler etc... interesting but I'm looking for a mixer that offers superb sound quality for hard trance mixing. I'm probably going to go for the Xone62.

Thanks to everyone for the advice and thoughts.

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Originally Posted by cascade

:shock: @ that video
omg thats amazin
lol
ive always been into rane and eckler.
2 dark horses in themixer world making quality.
i might be bying a new mixer in a few weeks.

might get a pmc-37 cause they were abasolutly awsome when i tred one last year. fits what i need from a mixer too.
never been too keen on djm-600, could never hold it when scratching, the chances of performing some serious turntablism on it are slim.
not bad at all for non turntablist trance djs though, think any effects unit can become cliche after a while, everyone knows what they sound like.
:neutral:
dont think any bedroom dj needs a 4 channel mixer unless they have 4 inputs, pretty simple equation.

Iq is there any decent scratch mixers with 4 channels?

(abit of a contradiction there aint it, idea of a mixer is to make more space on the scratch board, problem is i have 4 inputs, 2 vestax, 2 cdj800) :eh: :neutral:

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i too am seriously considering the vestax pmc 37 pro.


it looks awesome