EQ

@milesy: i think he is going for db values not frequencys. advice on that would be interesting to mee, too.

i think kick should be @ approx -6 db.

that's a good basis to get the other stuff worked out from as the kick is somwhat central in tech.

a good tip for hats is to make them linear in volume, so they fade out when you take the gain down on your tune. if you turn your tune's volume down, the hats should go down with it :!: , if they still stick out as everything else is getting much quieter, you will know they are to loud and need to be turned down in volume.

good tip loopdon. ya was kind of on about both realy. cheers for the link milesy. gonna check it out. i dont understand that say you kick was at 6 db then put an eq onit but the eq is at 0 db. so you wouldnt gain anymore with the eq. and are peeps eq'n the hi frequencies out of there kicks. and to what sort of frequencies.

had a read on that. gonna hav to read couple times man. so much info to take in. but definitly a good read. starting to pick a little up now slowly. just gonna tri setting frenquencies up right as i go in the mix. so any db and freenquenies will be wicked. like ,hi ,mid ,low .just basics.

it was saying in there. which i will take note from.but is cool to hear from you guys. wot levels you all like. the techno producers ;)

right say ya git ya kick at 6db and ya gonna eq. says any apparent muddiness can be rolled off around 300hz. right so ya boost ya eq up to 300hz. which type of eq?. just the norm channel eq. and you could bring the hi mid and low up. to get it to 300hz. anyone could expailn. and tri a small boost around 5-6 hz. again wot would be boosted hi mid and low?. and stereo width eq'n. some sounds tobe wide and some not. synth wide. lead bass etc?. drums do they need to be eq'd for width?. i got few different eq plungins with logic. not sure which to be using on what :doh:

just make sure everything's under 0 db so it doesnt clip . i think dirty mentioned having your kick and hats peaking around -1db first then balence all your mids lower than that.

make room for the sounds? take low and mid outta hi sounds. hi and low outta mid sounds. and hi and mid outta low sounds. thats trick'e coz dont you want a certain amout of hi in a low sound like a kick or bass?

what like on the master channel?. 0db. part channel for kick say 6db?. gotta get my head round this. cheers christ

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right say ya git ya kick at 6db and ya gonna eq. says any apparent muddiness can be rolled off around 300hz. right so ya boost ya eq up to 300hz. which type of eq?. just the norm channel eq. and you could bring the hi mid and low up. to get it to 300hz. anyone could expailn. and tri a small boost around 5-6 hz. again wot would be boosted hi mid and low?. and stereo width eq'n. some sounds tobe wide and some not. synth wide. lead bass etc?. drums do they need to be eq'd for width?. i got few different eq plungins with logic. not sure which to be using on what :doh:

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Dude - you just need to practice a lot I think and get your head round what you can do. I don't think you're asking the right question somehow, you seem quite hung up on specific values where as what you need to do is learn to find the values for your self using your ears.

There are some basic rules (that you can break once you understand them), like cut don't boost and cut low stuff out of things that aren't the kick and the bass and all the other stuff people have written above.

But in the end it is almost impossible to say exactly how you should set an EQ up because it really depends on what the sound is you are EQing.

All the frequencies and levels people talk about are guides as to where you might use EQ on your sound to fix a particuar problem or create a particular kind of sound.

The real trick is in knowing what you want to achieve. And the next trick is being able to hear what you've actually got which takes more practice than you can imagine.

But there are some questions you've got that have more speciifc answers as far as choice of EQ, to start with use a nice graphical EQ where you can see what's going on, try Waves Ren EQ 2 if you've got it.

The channel EQ in logic has so many bands it's probably just confusing to start with. But if you've not got Waves though then the channel EQ is fine but try working with just a couple of bands rather than using them all simply because it'll be easier to experiement with only a couple of bands of eq, after you get close, you can throw in some more bands to fine tune it (though additional bands then to use additional processor).

Don't get hung up on like the idea that because someone says -10db is a good amount to think about cutting that you actually have to cut all -10db, maybe -2db will work fine for the sound you are after.

Hope this makes some sense, cause I think you're making it too complicated for yourself but it's very difficult to explain without playing you particular sounds.

make sure the accoustics of your room r half decent b4 u eq anything

thanks baz,

yeah man. defo making it hard for myself. i dont realy understand the levels and that. but i am thinking about now tho. which is a start.

if you could play some sounds with frenquencies examples. i would hav i listen. and it would be interesting ;) . and helpfull ;)

ive been messing around with it in the front room lately. got laminate flooring in there. but do hav it setup in my spare bedroom. would of thout the accoustics are ok in front room. not sure tho

and another thing thats abit confusing. is that there loads of read outs for db's. like say on kontakt. you got the db for that part in kontakt. then hav got the part channel db for the channel its on in logic. so thats two different read outs. where should i be checking the db's?

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ive been messing around with it in the front room lately. got laminate flooring in there. but do hav it setup in my spare bedroom. would of thout the accoustics are ok in front room. not sure tho

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hard flooring is actually ok. we naturally filter out reflections from the ground. it's reflections from the walls and ceiling, and sound building up in the corners, that you have to worry about.

right ive heard little bits on that before. is there blocks i can get to go in the corners of the walls like sound proofing. would sort the spare room out with that. not the front room haha. ;)

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right ive heard little bits on that before. is there blocks i can get to go in the corners of the walls like sound proofing. would sort the spare room out with that. not the front room haha. ;)

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the blocks that go in the corners of room are basstraps (to stop low frequencies being emphasised). You can stop reflections by dampening the wall with an uneven surface, like a bookshelf or something......

i could do with some of them. with wot my neibours are like. wot you guys think on a decent pair of head phones for eq'n?. sennheiser or somthing

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i could do with some of them. with wot my neibours are like. wot you guys think on a decent pair of head phones for eq'n?. sennheiser or somthing

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headphones aren't much good for mixing/eqing. they're usable but far from ideal......

ok cool, i got some moniters anway. there not brilliant but ok. just thout with decent headphone you wouldnt have accoustics to woorry about.

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ok cool, i got some moniters anway. there not brilliant but ok. just thout with decent headphone you wouldnt have accoustics to woorry about.

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I'll sort u out a pair of monitors cheap if u want mate. They're not great but cost about £150 originally, I'll sell them to u for £30. They're the ones I used to make my first vinyl release about a year ago, so they're up to the job, but obviously aren;t gonna compare to the more expensive ones

sounds cool, and cheers for offering. but i hav a set of behringer actives that are about 200watts per cab and amped. so im ok. realy ;)