Perhaps a "creative block" section may make things a bit more interesting ;)
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Perhaps a "creative block" section may make things a bit more interesting ;)
I figure you should just leave people to it and it will work out and find it's own balance and that will be my final word on it.
A) it's stagnate and B) how is critical thinking or criticism at all stagnant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
eh.. and tony. those who forget history are doomed to repeat it
the best thing in techno right now IMO is the fact that people are fed up. that energy can/maybe/might trandcend it's problematic state. if you are so brazen to think a bunch of well behaved people and theoretical spoon fed happiness are going to move things forward well then i'm going to watch the ellen degeneres show and think about how i can score with a porn star.
there ARE a lot of things wrong with techno. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS.
but being a lemming to it all isn't the solution. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO TECHNO DAMAGE. and nobody ever says shit about them why cause we have to jump and duck to get anywhere. the whole power structure must be redefined. if you have or know anything about the BIZ there is no way you can't agree. you know what WOULD BE POSITIVE: A THREAD WHERE WE OPENELY AND HONESTLY MAKE ASSERTATIONS ABOUT WHAT REALLY SUCKS WHAT BAD THINGS PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED AND WITH WHO.
you want to make techno better in my opinion you won't do it by "shutting up and making tracks" you'll do it collectively with pressure and sincerity. asking people to be insincere is STAGNANT.
people have been known to pawn me off as a negative nancy but had you talked to me 5 years ago about techno even 3.. you wouldn't have found anyone more passionate about it. this is my view. i apologize for it. but i am and always will be sincere about music.
I think an option at least to have swearing uncensored would be nice, and less forums perhaps, so you can just post without having to work out which forum it should go in. Then there'd be more people interacting too I reckon. Streamline the techno and trance sections I think.
I like the way you can see how many warnings people have like in 15 to 1, I'm almost tempted to try and pick off the people on their last warning, wind them up like they do to Cartman in the Southpark movie! But that would be mean and I might get a warning too... :lol:
I think it's alright as it is in most respects though really, be interesting to see how it's improved... Although a section for gross, but funny stuff would be cool, like that 'octo-pussy' video that Pete made. ;)
I wouldn't change any of the rules. So far, this has been one of the smoother running web boards I've posted on. I'm generally not a fan of boards where there are excessive silly rules with moderators who enforce them on a whim. I prefer the boards where I happen to not really know the rules exist as I post and, so far, this place has been like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkEG
chip in mctimbre :neutral:Quote:
Originally Posted by Honeey
I think people are just getting way too paranoid.
There does need to be a certian amount of civility here.
Anarchy doesn`t work. Look at squat juice.
You can make comments that are`nt ass licking or that are negative.
But explain yourself properly, and do it in a civilised way.
The way I look at it, is mark has invited us all to a meeting at his house.
Now, knowing mark, you know he likes a good debate, but at the same time, he`s not gonna appreciate disrespect, or crassness.
If I was holding a meet and someone turmed up and started cussing and being a general eedjit, then I`d knock em out and drag em out. Same with most of you probably (although you may just ask them to leave or something hehe)
Now I had a bit of a confontation with Glen Wilson on this forum, and besides other people sticking their oars in and behaving like school children, both me and Glen kept things civil, and neither of us was banned by mark (and seeing as mark and glen are mates, I thought I was maybe gonna get choked for it, but I needed to say what I did), and I gotta respect him for that. And I hope, on resolution, there is no animosity between us.
Obviously we can`t all agree.
Debate, and critisism is something that will keep us all on our toes, and will help push the scene forward.
We can also say "well done mate" to each other now and again.
I think the key here is to keep things civil. And to not disrespect.
The techno scene is full of intelligent people, so lets use our intellect, rather than behave like school children.
I'd have to say it's a multitude of things that keeps some from posting. However I would not say any of those things = SUMMEROFSAMQuote:
you are also responsible for stopping people posting turning them off
How does one equate that???? :?: :?: :?:
I gotta say that old adverse here has made a lot of good points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adverse
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Originally Posted by dirty_bass
oh fine :lol:
oh...please please please let us edit posts!!!!
well i like the point earlier about communities ebbing and flowing.
sometimes things here are great fun
sometimes they're a bit dull.
i do like watching a good fight on here, but those guys who were banned from the dark section desereved it.
i used to go there just to look for locked posts for a bit of a read, but those guys were just wasting everyones time.
i used to post a lot more before , and it's kind of died down a little now , but i'm sure i'll get back into it.
and one last thing
i really agree with the other point earlier about thread titles.
in fact i have thought that for a long time now
lame thread titles can make whole threads a waste of space , and some really good points have gone unnoticed because of this
so better titles would be a help for us all to navigate the forum.
I invite you to prove that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Dust
Crikey, you are still missing the whole point of what I'm saying - that the "clap happy" no neg posts BS that goes on stops people posting. It stops me for one - if you want proof, it's almost like you can't or won't admit that some things in techno are, indeed really shit. Just because you don't talk about it doesn't me it doesn't exist.
The fact that you are a mod and push this point, I believe is the reason you don't get many interesting posts. It almost like you couldn't actually say something like "Reeko's last 3 releases are all the same and pretty shit". Now, Reeko doesn't have a problem with me saying that, he doesn't care and yes I've asked him. But on BOA you seem to be defending something that even the artist isn't interested in, it's just plain odd in my eyes. If I do a bad gig or someone doesn't like a release I'd rather hear about it, rather than some prozac rose tinted overview.
In short, stop trying to censor people and give up holding the belief that we should all get on and agree, it's not the way it really is.
Ok then you first, who sucks in your eyes?
Just remember that they prob dwell on here and will call you on it is the point.
Oh damn ive started this thread and now im bored reading it !
Damn you are all mature people and most you in this discussion produce music and have enough electronic music background to make interesting discussion.
So why keep discussing how people shall talk to each other, how the forum should be administrated and moderated? I just think its pointless !!
Moderators are here to make discussion stay in what they think, so people can dare whatever they want, you wont be banned for a stupid post... I agree with Adverse, we should keep straight the way we are otherwise the discussions will be tasteless, anyways the mods are here to stiop the discussion when it goes wrong.
To go back to the topic of the thread (the future of this forum) i just think we should go back talking about our personnal feelings and share our exeperience. For sure we have to do that in each other respect, thinking everybody has different tastes. Thas by sharing personnal things we can progress !
Definitely! And maybe delete them, I usually delete the extra's when I accidentally post something more than once, but you can't on here...Quote:
Originally Posted by djshiva
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Originally Posted by Martin Dust
i think i have had a crush developping on benoit over the last few months.. *pitter patter* :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tioneb
Adverse ju de las von to say nada b! :lol: