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Originally Posted by MARK EG
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without conflict in life, i wouldn't be writing music to begin with.
conflict breeds discussion. discussion breeds education. education is a key element of life.
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Mr EG, i couldnt possibly agree with you more.
hats off to ya. ya pay for this site & take all the shit for what ???
cos you love the music.
and if ppl cant respect that, they shouldnt be here.
more power to ya man. its your site & your work & your name. you run things how you like.
respect
well this is something i better speak with Mark personally because my point really is just getting lost in here
sorry for late reply been out all night just got back!
I have to say I completely see Scott's point.. he's calling a spade a spade the way he sees it, why does the thread having to be locked and everyone to start jumping on him? I've just read that thread again, and a lot of it was merely Scott backing up what he said originally. He wasn't being nasty, he explained his point, and as far as it appears Sven wasn't offended or put out at all by what he said.
For the first time in a while I have to say I'm pretty cheesed off with BOA. I have lots of respect for Mark but in this case I think he was a little hasty with his reaction, without fully respecting *both* sides of the discussion. Everything is not so black and white, but ultimately it just boils down to "You aren't being +ve enough, keep your mouth shut", and that bugs me, it's not like many of the people who receive cautions aren't intelligent folk who can't make a point or whose only aim is to cause trouble... far from it. Being rude is one thing, but I don't think the schranz debates got dirty at all, they just went on for too long :)
On another note, I think you have to take less interest in all this kind of thing Scott, let your music do the talking from now on... maybe it's your frustration waiting for your own stuff to come out, I dunno? My advice would be to ease off on venting your opinions on (what you consider to be) bad records sometimes, it's not that I don't agree with a lot of what you say, sometimes it can all be kinda pointless though.. it often turns into a running battle in the end, that helps no-one really.
well im glad someone see's my point i have to say..... but yeah i dont enjoy gettin into these debates but they happen sooo.... and yeah Sven wasnt offended which is one of my main reasons for being a bit pissed off, why is everyone jumping down my throat when Sven himself can accept what i said?
re my own stuff, hmm frustrating waiting for release not too much no because i know they are coming and its no reflection on my view/feelings on schranz at the minute, the 2 are seperate altogether.... i dont view anyone as competition per say..... i have no doubt that Sven wouldnt enjoy the stuff i have coming out which is fair enough, as, just like the original threads, its about opinions, and respecting them, even if they are deemed negative
oh its too nice a day to be arguing the toss on here :cry: :lol:
yeah it's toss alright. and scotty, big up man. there's no wool over your eyes.
i've only got two minutes, i'll reply to the rest later BUT
it's toss alright. i mean this is exactly the type of comment which is totally unproductive and going nowhere. what good is, 'it's toss alright' gonna do??? i just don't get why ppl take this attitude.
and 'no wool over your eyes'?? i mean come on this is subjective. totally personal preference.
just get on about what is good about what you do.
look if we were sat all together i'd actually say some pretty similar things to eyes. i think schranz sometimes takes the feeling out of techno. i feel the same in a way. but all it does, when you harp on about it on a web forum, is go nowhere.
i don't want to be in a negative, place. in my life, nothing comes out of negativity. you gotta take what you have and see the good in shit.
i know some of you hate this rule, i know some of you feel it's a constraint. but until you convince me otherwise, it'll stay. honest, i'll say it again. YOU TRY MODERATING A TECHNO FORUM!!! all i want is respect in here. and the +ve thing is a way that keeps this place respectful.
i've just done this post and chrissi was over my shoulder whilst i did it. she asked me - 'do you think you over react to some posts?'.
i replied 'yeah'.
then she said 'why?'
then i said 'because i'm not able to read every post, so when i see something develop i think i need to nip it in the bud quick and that's why sometimes i react too quickly'.
i really hope this gives you an insight into this. this is, at the end of the day, my little baby. i haven't got time to read every post, i really haven't. i never thought when i set this up that this would develop into this. it's a full time job that i haven't got, but even though i had to trust ppl with mod jobs, i still care so much about this place. when i come on here, have a pm from someone telling me xxx is a cunt and i need to check out xxx post, then i have to sort it. the sven post was really depressing, as he is a good guy at the end of the day, and he was getting the backlash of the schranz haters. i feel i have to do something. but i haven't got time to argue to the hill about it so what do i do? i lock it.
you might say, well mark you need to make the time. well, perhaps i do. but i'd much rather be in the studio all day and just pop on here every evening and have a good time ;) so you may say, well you shouldn't lock the posts. well i care. what can i do??!?!
look, i hate being a damn stick in the mud. i'm the last person in the world who wants to create conflict, but it boils down to the fact that i want this to be a good place for good people who want to make a difference in music. and unfortunately the problem of anonymity means ppl can be totally faceless and hide behind shit and create unneccesary turmoil. this does f all for our music and definitely does f all for our fantastic community.
anyway, look forward to your replies.
personally, i don't mind that the thread was locked. the people who didn't like the record had said their bit, and sven and amok responded. other people who were discussing loops in techno moved on to a more targeted thread in the techno forum. the thing went for 10 pages. mark wanted to start a positive thread about sven.
i fail to see why any of this is such a big deal.
time to move on! there's plenty of other things to gripe about. ;)
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Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk
yeah Mark i agree wholeheartedly about this being ur forum, respect etc but i honestly thing ur missing my point... i respect Sven and will continue to do so, i just really really dont see how stopping people from speaking their minds and saying what they really feel will solve anything, if anything it makes the problem worse as ur ar alienating core members of ur community and rendering them with feelings of unease and a general feeling that my comments are not taken into account... Adverse was right, there is no wool over my eyes (bad pun i know!) and im not one to sit back and tell someone i enjoy something if i dont, even if that means the person who did the said record/ep etc reads this, infact, id say it more so because it makes the artist realise that not all is happy and not everyone loves what they do, which can only be better for the artist...
I know nearly everyone on here loves schranz and doesnt wanna see it talked about negatively, but Amok said it himeself when he said "this time last year everyone was loving Wittekind but now everyone is slating him, whats changed?" (or something to that account, those pedantic ones out there please dont pull me up on the exact wording haha).... my point being, well, they have to accept when people are not blowing up thier arses for once in a while, as i imagine the past couple of years they have had numerous people telling them how good they are, which they are, just that particular release wasnt...
im all for making sure the board is kept "clean and tidy" and i dont enjoy reading or being involved in arguments on here, debates yes, arguments yes... but for a debate u have to have 2 sides to the story, and on this forum now that doesnt seem to be allowed... which begs the question, whats the point in having an internet forum in the first place? freedom of speech is something we are all entitled to and when this doesnt seem to be allowed then that saddens me
i pm'd u anyway mark in reply to yours so add me to msn today sometime ;)
i actually think these are good posts as we are saying what we thing, as long as its allowed to stay that way
and im sorry mark but i have to agree, this is your board so i think yeah you should take more time to read EVERYTHING in a post like the tool terror one because otherwise i dont believe u can make a fair judgement, just skimming thru then locking it is highly unfair, u must be able to see that?
its unfair to urself too dude, i know ur a busy guy and yeah i agree, id rather be in the studio making tracks, but if u dont get the whole picture urself then yeah i think thats unfair on urself and others when u reply without having read everything and taken it all into account...
also, u may have been exaggerating haha, but u shudnt be getting pm's off Mods calling people a cunt should u? if u do then thats more offensive than the whole subject matter at hand because no one has resorted to personal insults or name calling on here, so the mods shouldnt be doing it in a pm
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Which sort? I'm hungry.... ;) :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by MARK EG
i didnt notice that bit, i love a good cake.... Battenburg please Mark
For the Record
If I wanted to call anyone here a c*nt I'd say it to you front and center in front of anyone.
Especially here in the forum.
So if you want to call me out and think I said anything negative about you or feel I was genuinely rude towards you, address me.
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i didnt even know anyone had called me a cunt, i was reffering to Mark's text where he says he recieves pm's and indicated in some that mod's were calling people cunts... if that was u then i feel sorry for u more than anything because thats lower than any comments given in the latest threads, and if it was u, then im surprised also as i thought u were better than that tony
infact , i know ur a better person than that, so it would come as a shock that you'd lowered urself to this level of name calling, as i wouldnt, and havent called anyone a cunt on here, be it a pm or otherwise
I wasn't addressing you Scott.
I don't know where any of this is coming from.
Someone said Mod and I got Adverse sniffin around my ass so I'm just puttin on my game face.
i thought u were addressing me with ur post? im finding these forums harder to understand haha ;)