Girls

Infact seeing as this is an issue, lets all make pop music.

This means we'll have lots of 'women' fans and more money. How ****ing cool would that be folks!!

Or if we made hip hop at least there would be men wearing bandanas and women in bikinis!!

sounds like a plan...

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Originally Posted by Mindful

:clap: your cool as **** you are miss bass.

IMO it dosnt matter your gender its about whats going on in your head(or heart)that matters.
I know testosterone monsters who cant stand raw sounds and the girlyest girls that get off on anal wierdness.....its about who you are as a person.
My gilfreind prefers The Texas chainsaw massacre to Bridjet Joneses diary

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Exactly, music to me involves EARS and EMOTIONS, not skirts, beer boys or whatever.

Some of my male dj friends are so into soul and brazillian 'girly' :roll: music (?) , and ive seen women go absolutely mental to a load of distortion (like myself :doh: :shock: ) and vice a verse.

Well said Miss Bass :clap: :clap:

Sorry DB but Bassline Techno bringing women into techno came across very sexist :eh:

Personally, I think the scene's doing great for women in techno. Great producers, great dj's and the clubs i've been to over the past couple of years has had a great turnout of women.

[quote="miss bass"]:roll:

'I think this is an important point - I have people tell me that they think Techno is macho!? Maybe a bit like going down the gym and lifting heavy weights and grunting a lot!

The girls don't wanna know - they want something they can relate to and makes them feel comfortable?

This needs to be sorted out!'

errrr ... :neutral: :eh:

This feels so patronising!!!! I went to the Version weekender and there were women dancing to the most obscurest music as was myself.

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Oh no! My comments totally backfired there! Oops, sorry people. Was not meant to be patronising in any way, note the question marks - :oops:

Very sorry if that's how it came across - not intentional. I feel like a right arse now - bunch of arse!

I think you have made some interesting points there MB - fair play - yes I think you are right - you defo need to make music and perform music for the right reasons.

peace

hmmm...

been thinking about this a lot because of a nightly a friend was running that was attracting nothing but guys...a veritable sausage party.

i will say that the taste among the women djs i know (including myself) tends to run the gamut, from deep sexy beats to absolutely grinding techno to reaaaally weird abstraction...so to generalize and say there is one thing that will attract women is pretty far off the mark.

what i can say is that as far as i have observed, regardless of gender, a DJ playing the same loopy type tracks end to end with no ear toward composition seems to bore the hell out of everyone. and this goes for ALL genres: techno, house, d n' b...whatever...

linear...boring. keep things interesting...keep the dancefloor.

personally i think THAT is the key. movement throughout a set...peaks and valleys...subtle mixes and really in your face mixes...throw in something unexpected...watch your audience and not just your mixer, you may learn something about what they are responding to...test them...see what works...

pay attention.

I wasnt trying to direct this just at you Miasma man :oops: , i just happened to pick out your text amongst others.

@dj shiva:

i think that sums it up nicely :clap:

girls = party

no girls = music review.

if techno is going to be a core element in a party, than it needs to be appreciated by both sexes.

already as it is, techno isnt appreciated by enough men as a whole

if 1 out of 5 partiers are women than an uber fraction of that (1 out of 20?) are techno heads.

but this goes back to technos nebulous image. and when techno starts to take image, the techno-dorks in their towers start decreeing shite as past as they can click on 'submit post'.

people critizise acid techno and chicago techno because it can be 'cheesey', perhaps cheese shouldnt be the word used anymore because guess what, whatever cheese actually is, is the hooks party people (men and women) remember.

bang the box bad boy bill ;-)

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Originally Posted by miss bass

I can see there are less women on the dancefloors unless your playing funky house, but does that matter, if you have people (men , dogs whatever) dancing to your music surely that is rewarding??
If you feel making more 'bassline' orientated tracks will boost female statistics in techno clubs then cool, and if you feel thats important (??) then cool... but personally id be happy with bodies, or just the feeling that ive made something i am proud of.

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There's a thought now, dogs howling on the dancefloor because they were enjoying the music, that'd be cool :twisted:

I don't have a huge concern about many girls' lack of interest in techno or the boys club stigma attached to techno ... however (and as I'm sure Mark is trying to point out) it would be nice if we could get more girls to techno nights. It works two fold as well, more girls = more blokes = more people in general.

A lot of the thing with girls too is that they like to move and be seen to be making their moves on the dancefloor. If you're banging the hole out of it at 145 bpm from early in the night then you're giving girls or people in general, little chance to get into it properly or move comfortably on the floor. A lot of the responsibility lies with DJs and the way they play their sets, not necessarily the music that's being made.

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Originally Posted by Internal Error Records

but this goes back to technos nebulous image. and when techno starts to take image, the techno-dorks in their towers start decreeing shite as **fast*** as they can click on 'submit post'.

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as fast, nbot fast :crackup:

See this is what we should be discussing! Peaks, drops ... valleys meadows.. :lol:

I dont care if there is a guy stood there wearing stillettos or a woman in a clown outfit.

I think producers need to concentrate on pushing new and creative music, not the dull linear looped one riffed pieces as we all know and hear. But then again that kind of shit without a doubt makes me appreciate the quality music which is out there.

aahhhhh, look at the ickle baby elephant :cool:

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Originally Posted by Internal Error Records

girls = party

no girls = music review.

if techno is going to be a core element in a party, than it needs to be appreciated by both sexes.

already as it is, techno isnt appreciated by enough men as a whole

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aww thats a shame, you cant have fun without women then basically??
So your admitting that women rule and all you men should bow down to us??

ok ;)

Its not being appreciated by many people because so much 'techno' is utter trash. There is alot of wonderful music out there none the less.

well i think we need more girls in techno. that's why i made the post, to dicuss this. bass, who bloody cares tbh :clap: , but actually i'm sure there's an underlying thing in club music that means we have to think about this. recently, some ppl have commented how the really distorted one bar loop end of techno in my sets ends up with extra blokes on the floor and some women f off. dunno how true this is but need to think about it. as our whole reason for being there is to keep that dance floor full, i obviously don't want that. and tbh, if girls arent on the floor, you soon realise that actually some of the blokes get board and they f off too.

honestly i dont want to cause an arguement, i just want to talk about why the hell this is and perhaps understand women even more.

bloody hard job though
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

haha I gave up trying to work out women ages ago, don't think I ever will, very strange creatures at times it seems..? :lol:

I dont understand men let alone women :doh: :lol:

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Originally Posted by MARK EG

recently, some ppl have commented how the really distorted one bar loop end of techno in my sets ends up with extra blokes on the floor and some women f off. dunno how true this is but need to think about it. as our whole reason for being there is to keep that dance floor full, i obviously don't want that. and tbh, if girls arent on the floor, you soon realise that actually some of the blokes get board and they f off too.

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That's just the way it goes. Live by the sword, die by the sword ;)
There's no mystery here.. Distorted hard techno of today = aggression... which is not what many girls will relate to as much.

Prolonged bouts of distorted stuff scare girls (or people in general) off, although that's natural.

Funny enough I've recently seen hardcore keep girls stuck to the floor, I guess some of that stuff has more movement to it than the average one bar loop banger.

I think with hardcore its a bit more obvious what they should be dancing to(ie the huge bounsy kick and bass)and its a bit less agressive unless we are on about Gabba of course

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Originally Posted by Sunil

There's no mystery here.. Distorted hard techno of today = aggression... which is not what many girls will relate to as much.

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same reason most people listening to death metal are male. but this only explains the harder end, and i think that there is a lack of women technoheads across the board. there are other reasons too...my girlfriend says she doesn't like most new techno because it sounds "cold." there's obviously room in techno for a really diverse range of sounds or styles, but maybe techno has, to some degree, lost its sensuality...

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Originally Posted by miss bass

aww thats a shame, you cant have fun without women then basically??
So your admitting that women rule and all you men should bow down to us??

ok ;)

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i can listen to music at homefor free. if i pay $35 to go to a party. it better have women!

and i will bow to a woman eagerly, after she bows for me
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