woooooaaaa you posted that almost the same time as me!!! hahahaha
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woooooaaaa you posted that almost the same time as me!!! hahahaha
:lol:
well ok then
i hear you
i guess i'll have to get out more.
but it's hard now i'm a dad
and playing at the weekend
and making tunes in the week
mainly being a dad actually
p.s. the photo's of my son
hehe
chip off the old block you could say
actually you know what
i'm going out on a limb here
there hasn't been anything new in techno for ****ing ages
i can't think of anything how about you
i know lot's of people are going to go on about the wonky stuff
an all that but i'm sorry it still ain't that new
it's just got a bit more poular recently (rightly perhaps)
what is going on???
where is the next j mills
the next plastikman the next derrick may
is techno just a load of old bollocks or is there a new direction and i'm just to stupid to find it.
> i have to get out more
hahahahhahaa
no man. it's not what i was saying. hahahha... you play more techno events than i do in the UK :wink: what i actually meant is i feel it's just as underground as ever - so hard to find the good clubs. see what i mean?
hmmm... very, very good point in your 2nd post there.
who is the next jeff mills? who really is going to make a difference?
can we make this a new topic? it's a very very interesting one?
I must admit, in my experiance i havnt seen anything out there thats new and highly origional lately but i also dont get out much so I how can I know hahahaha. I like things as they are, new things are always great and grab your attention but I also think that it doesnt have to sound new to be good. I wanna know what happened to the Holy Ghost???!?!?!! where did they go?
Congrats on your son Henry! :D It seems to be a baby boom... Mel and Vic had their son this morning!!! He's named Zakari :) When you come down later in the year we can race them... haha, just joking! :P
Well i want to get in to this topic, techno is dead long time ago in Canada wich is sucks but what can you do? i think techno music will stay like one of the many styles, like rock,country,pop,blues.there is no such thing "OH CHECK IT OUT NEW ROCK! or NEW SAMBA. i think techno took form as a style that has been experimented up side down and this is final form of it.
my opinion. :roll:
Yeah.. keeping on topic... The techno scene here in Sydney has never been massive... during the mid to late 90's there were a few popular clubs pushing techno and booking alot of the big names (and not so big names) from overseas, etc... and a fair few of the big parties / raves back then had a techno headliner or 2.
For some reason towards the end of the 90's it started getting few and far between, the techno clubs started closing thier doors, the big events were becoming less frequent and they weren't booking any techno djs. Even the local big names had to start playing different stuff and the ones that stayed true to techno started getting less and less and smaller and smaller gigs...
It never really picked up again. Dave, you know about the Swarm parties (which were the first acid techno / hard techno party series here) which started back in '99 as there was something seriously lacking. Over this time a new friday night techno club opened which played some good stuff and had some good acts on, but that didn't make enough money to stay open and had to shut shop. Then another friday night techno club started up and concentrated on the clubbier more up market crowd.. and this one is still running, having changed it's style over the years and now plays most types of techno on different nights..
The last Swarm was in April with Chris Lib (I had the set after him.. eeeek) and it was rammed... in a small club, but rammed none the less... which would indicate there is still a crowd and a need for this type of thing. I started booking my own night (as Vic who runs swarm was having time off for a while due to Mel expecting a baby,and there were no more swarms until later in the year) and during that time there has been a resurgence of techno parties, so many that I'm finding it hard to find a free date!
Most of the nights coming up are being put on by crews of the younger dj's.. There are about 5 different ones, plus the more established guys doing things from monthly club nights, one off's, internationals to free parties. Even the more mainstream big rave type parties that have always been running and playing the cheesiest music imaginable (happy hard, etc) have both got an event coming up in Sept / Oct and both have dedicated techno rooms for the very first time.
So I think, concerning down here in Sydney, thing's have died already and are finally starting to turn around... let's just hope it stays underground!
what do u mean nothing new in techno for ages? thats maybe only your perception?Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
think about it.
There's so many different styles of techno out there now that I would say there are still producers being innovative and original.....for example, some very fresh stuff i've heard lately(in my humble opinion):
Andreas Saag - (not exactly balls to the wall techno very original and techno none the less- live organ, percusion over techno rhythms etc etc)
British Murder Boys - very original releases imo, much more than just loopy minimal techno to me.
But i still beleive it doesn't have to be genre breaking to be good....there is so much techno I love that is not genre breaking but just damn fine techno music......for example Glenn wilson sound, it's straight up bangin' techno but just made in such a quality way that it sounds streets ahead of some other stuff....and it's so rockin'!!! Nout wrong with that.
jeff mills wasnt THAT innovative as it seems.
when you look at it from the inside the box you could say he was fresh. but if u look back in the history you can easily see that there was similiar music there before him.
i bet this same discussion will be lead in like 20 or 30 years but with different names involved.
billy natys new night is at EGG yes, its a gay club sundays. and its very small rooms.
sqwot partys are the best thing for a cheap techno night out in london at moment i think...
shame system has gone. retro verts was ok also for free, but from now on you will have to pay there, dunno how much price is gunna be yet? Lost is shite, but there if bored.
Ironically I had someone tell me that Hydraulix 17 by... DAVE the Drummer was one of the most innovative tracks they'd heard in a long time... ;) :D
Awww, shucks Matt and Henry, you guys say the nicest things. :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
Alright then Henry, how's things ? And to think I kept your little bathroom episode secret and then you go and grass yourself up. :P :lol:
Nice picture of the babba though.
Anyway, on with the topic. I'm having a little bit of a revival with my techno purchasing at the moment and generally feeling more positive about the scene than I have for a long while, but I guess loads of it has been buying older tunes that I missed first time around. I suppose the fact that I've been really into that retro vibe is becasue there isn't a huge amount of current stuff really exciting me. I've been to more parties and clubs in the past few months than I have been for a long, long time and have heard some fantastic sets. People like Mills and Hood still blow me away. But more satisfying than the 'old faithfuls' is hearing some relative unknowns really tearing it up and putting in a really well thought out, well mixed set (in terms of technical ability and selection of tunes) of new and old stuff.
I think you're right though when you say the genre has been around too long now to throw up any real surprises. I can't see there being any one huge change of direction, any really new innovative style coming along to blow us all away. The very fact that every thing used to be totally new and previously unheard has become a little stale and I think people are happy now to just hear a good tune, without it having to be bleeding edge. It seemed sometimes that people were getting so lost up their own arses searching for "the new sound" that they actually forgot to write the tune part.
Personally I'm really getting into a nice balanced mix of new and old. Bring out the classics. Some of us older badgers might have heard them many times, but you can bet the people who've only got into techno in the last 3 or 4 years won't have. After, what, 15 or more years I think we can afford to be a bit retrospective and acknowledge the great tunes and give them another airing.
That's kind of always been one of the great ironies of techno to me anyway. Derrick May said "Techno is Kraftwerk and Parliament trapped in an elevator together" (or something like that) so it has always been a case of looking back as you moved forward.
Still, it probably doesn't do to get too retro about things. You never know what you might find when you start rummaging around in the crates, eh Henry ? :P :lol: :lol:
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Actually, at he moment for really fresh new stuff I've been looking outside of the techno field. I've been getting into lots of IDM and the more ****ed up electronica, and some I guess is still loosely classed as techno. Stuff like Aphex, Squarepusher, Autechre, Venetian Snares, Pole etc.
And aslo I've been getting into Broken Beat, which is some weird ****ing hybrid thats's got old detroit influences, really ****ed up time signatures and beats that go everywhere and even a flavour of reggae dancehall about it. Kinda 2-step, kinda electro, kinda dub, kinda I don't know what the ****, but it's interesting anyway.
That's Broken Beat as in the type played by Phil Asher, Dego, Domu, IG Culture etc. and not the mental hardcore with a breakbeat running through it that people sometimes mention on here.
Christ, Back to the Planet brings back memories, LOL :) I remember enjoying them way before I'd ever heard of acid techno or even liked dance music at all :D
haha my gosh Geezer looks like he's 15 in that pic!!! :)
Andries' right the techno scene in Toronto is dead. :(
-jOHNNY