has it all gone a bit too ravey?

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Originally Posted by ds2

i'm not knocking your night, whatever works for you i guess. i just used mark's set as an example of one of many right now.

it's just not what techno's about for me. i grew up seeing people like jeff mills, fumiya tanaka, rob hood and even sven vath play 3 hours upwards and have the whole club eating out of their hands with no one leaving the dancefloors all night.

The first time BMB played for us in 2004 with Female they did something like 4 1/2 hours and that ranks as one of the best sets i've ever heard. And yet Surgeon's on in Leeds next week playing on a line up of 8 djs/live acts in the space of 7 hours. :whoops:

i must be getting old.

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i wouldn't worry too much about it - variety is the spice of life as they say.

these days it's harder to fill clubs than it used to be, especially techno events. and people paying to go to clubs just want value for money so booking more artists makes sense when filling events, especially the bigger ones where more is at risk. and either way, it just depends on the night doesn't it? and who's on.

surgeon is playing in two hour set in leeds next week. nothing wrong with that. he played for three hours for us last and he was awesome, people loved it. but i still think that these days most would be just as happy to hear him for one hour if the dj/live act following on from him was just as good.

30 minutes is a bit ridiculous though. i agree with you on that.

just like playing back to back though init, only get 30mins then and most are happy to do that



i do think that some of the massive line ups do look silly , but its what the paying public want, loads of djs for half the price


long as the dj's themselves dont mind doing it and have a good time playing their set then its ok with me :cheese:

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

short sets suck.
It`s the equivalent of one of these compressed TV adverts.
Just Bam.
No subtlety, no journey, no ups and downs, it merely drives DJ`s to play the more commercial stuff, and leaves little room for experimentation.

Might as well join the pop music industry.

You see these adverts in london all the time for house and garage.

40DJs
35 MCs!!!!!!
No trainers, no caps, no hoodies, no guns, no knives, no crack, no fun, just give us your money, stick yer head through the door for 5 mins and then **** off, cos we just wanna spend the takings on coke!!!

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i tihnk that's the first time i ever agreed with you :briggin:

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Originally Posted by dirty_bass

No trainers, no caps, no hoodies, no guns, no knives, no crack, no fun, just give us your money, stick yer head through the door for 5 mins and then **** off, cos we just wanna spend the takings on coke!!!

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hahahaha hilarious, and so true

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Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

hahahaha hilarious, and so true

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Seconded, but funny as hell!

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Originally Posted by ComputerControlled

surgeon is playing in two hour set in leeds next week. nothing wrong with that. he played for three hours for us last and he was awesome, people loved it. but i still think that these days most would be just as happy to hear him for one hour if the dj/live act following on from him was just as good.

30 minutes is a bit ridiculous though. i agree with you on that.

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glad to hear it, i want to catch him and speedy j next week if i can.
just hope they're both on at different times.

short sets are bollox.

whats the point in playing less that an hour?

minimum should be 90 mins.

as for the idea of if someone plays 30 mins they play all the best tunes....thats hillarious:laughing: laughed my cock off then.

i think you should all put yourself in the average joes shoes whos coming to a party

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Originally Posted by Ryuuku

i think you should all put yourself in the average joes shoes whos coming to a party

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Agreed, its the punters that pay the bills after all. Although there has to be a balance for sure. I would say putting on a good show is more important than arguing over 30-60mins.

Some DJs really can cut it in 30mins. Some cant. Careful planning is what is important.

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Originally Posted by ds2

i'm not knocking your night, whatever works for you i guess. i just used mark's set as an example of one of many right now.

it's just not what techno's about for me. i grew up seeing people like jeff mills, fumiya tanaka, rob hood and even sven vath play 3 hours upwards and have the whole club eating out of their hands with no one leaving the dancefloors all night.

The first time BMB played for us in 2004 with Female they did something like 4 1/2 hours and that ranks as one of the best sets i've ever heard. And yet Surgeon's on in Leeds next week playing on a line up of 8 djs/live acts in the space of 7 hours. :whoops:

i must be getting old.

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Alright Paul. I'm pretty gutted to be reading this to be honest after I offered to help promote you night by putting your posters in takeaways etc for nowt. And for the record I think your techno lineups are some of the most cutting edge in the UK - so respect on that front.

Generally my nights have acts that play live and therefore I think that an hour is respectable but at the end of the day this is dictacted by the artist.

For Saturday 17th Event at West Indian Centre the running order for the Room 237 room is:

22:00 - 23:00 Daz Quayle
23:00 - 00:00 Rob Hall
00:00 - 01:00 Sleeparchive
01:00 - 03:00 Surgeon
03:00 - 04:00 Mark Broom
04:00 - 05:00 CC DJ b2b P45

Hopefully you can come along

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Originally Posted by rubberduck

Alright Paul. I'm pretty gutted to be reading this to be honest after I offered to help promote you night by putting your posters in takeaways etc for nowt. And for the record I think your techno lineups are some of the most cutting edge in the UK - so respect on that front.

Hopefully you can come along

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i'm definitely coming next week, looking forward to seeing surgeon and speedy j up the road if they're not clashing.

i wasn't having a go at anyone's events at all, it just seems like there's suddenly loads of nights putting long line ups on with much shorter sets which is something i've not seen for years since the big rave days. it's not something i'm into personally but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

it was the nuclear audio line up that made me think about it more, i just used the surgeon gig next week as another example.

30 mins gives no room to play a particularly interesting set. More like wam bam thankyou maam. I wouldn't bother with an event like that even if it had great dj's across the bill.

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Originally Posted by dubs

30 mins gives no room to play a particularly interesting set. More like wam bam thankyou maam. I wouldn't bother with an event like that even if it had great dj's across the bill.

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agree with that.

lol so if we had awakenings over here where they follow that format you wouldn't go because the dj's only on for an hour. bullshit!

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30 mins gives no room to play a particularly interesting set

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Dont agree with that AT ALL. any DJ worth their salt better well have a 30min set in their arsenal.

ive said it before and ill say it again. If you cant perform as a DJ no matter what the circumstances then get the F off the decks. There is plenty of oporunity for a DJ in that time.

Careful planning and intelligent plays.

I think hour sets are fine... i know 30mis is a bit silly, but some times 30 mins of a good dj can be fun, but i do think now that djs should be given 1hr minimum. Is always nice to have your main headliner on for a hour and a half or 2hrs... but dont think its about how long there on more who's on, if there are 5 class headliners that all flow for 5 hrs rather than 2 warm up djs and 1 headliner then i think id enjoy the 5 headliners more at times... its all in who you book i think.

on marks set on sat i was there for it and he played a blinder and really impacted the crowd and played bout 10mins over i think after we all gave the sound guys so much shit for turning it off at 4am that they cranked the rig back on ... hahaha

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Originally Posted by Mucky Beats

marks set on sat i was there for it and he played a blinder and really impacted the crowd and played bout 10mins over i think after we all gave the sound guys so much shit for turning it off at 4am that they cranked the rig back on ... hahaha

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perhaps he should have had a longer set then :briggin:

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Originally Posted by Tiptoe

lol so if we had awakenings over here where they follow that format you wouldn't go because the dj's only on for an hour. bullshit!

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awakenings is a big f*ck off rave - see thread title :laughing:
i can't say i'm a big fan either, travel all that way to see the 2 or 3 djs that are worth seeing but they only play for an hour. no thanks, i'd rather wait til they play a club and do a proper set.

anyway, each to their own. like i say i'm not a fan but others obviously are and NA sounds like it was packed out so best of luck to them and others. it's good to see more and more techno parties getting packed out again and more new nights cropping up.

ive never been to an awakenings yet where they play for less than 1 hour and 30. usually been 5 djs playing from 9 - 7am

and as for 30 minute sets....waste of time and the main reason why i wont attend events similar to this. i bet it takes someone all of about 20 seconds to decide what set hes going to play beforehand.

2 hour sets should be standard IMO. I want a DJ to take me on a journey, not bash out the big hitters...